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Posted: 8/10/2018 11:57:42 AM EDT

Posted: 8/10/2018 12:03:57 PM EDT

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Love all the new parts you guys are bringing out!

Posted: 8/10/2018 12:04:52 PM EDT

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Posted: 8/10/2018 12:33:22 PM EDT

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That looks like it only holds 20.

Posted: 8/10/2018 12:39:13 PM EDT

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Posted: 8/10/2018 12:45:57 PM EDT

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Oh have mercy!

Posted: 8/10/2018 1:03:13 PM EDT

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LMAO.... no doubt.

25 rounders FTW!

Posted: 8/10/2018 1:03:55 PM EDT

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can ya'll pin mags to 10 rounds? I would buy so many damn 20 rounders.

Posted: 8/10/2018 1:07:03 PM EDT

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Like it ONLY holds 20? Please, please, say that YOURS holds 25 AND will be available soon. I don't even care if it does or does not feed reliably!

Posted: 8/10/2018 2:01:54 PM EDT

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Oh my..........

Posted: 8/10/2018 2:08:05 PM EDT

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I was not expecting this, to say the least. Well done, Brownells!

Posted: 8/10/2018 2:14:21 PM EDT

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Outstanding!

Posted: 8/10/2018 2:41:20 PM EDT

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Maybe it's just the part of me that's still riding the BRN-10 hype high, but this almost makes me wonder if a prototype style of BRN-series rifle might be in the works in the future.

Posted: 8/10/2018 3:08:51 PM EDT

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mother of god.....

Posted: 8/10/2018 3:11:26 PM EDT

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Like it ONLY holds 20? Please, please, say that YOURS holds 25 AND will be available soon. I don't even care if it does or does not feed reliably!

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That looks like it only holds 20.

Like it ONLY holds 20? Please, please, say that YOURS holds 25 AND will be available soon. I don't even care if it does or does not feed reliably!

They look kind of long now that you mention it.

Posted: 8/10/2018 3:14:00 PM EDT

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They look kind of long now that you mention it.

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Did you base them upon originals and change the catch area or from scratch?

Posted: 8/10/2018 3:25:36 PM EDT

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Are you allowed to post links?

Pictures are worth 1,000 words

Links are worth 1001 words.

Posted: 8/10/2018 3:27:37 PM EDT

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Did you base them upon originals and change the catch area or from scratch?

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We went with the current style catch cutout.

Posted: 8/10/2018 3:28:36 PM EDT

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Yes but did you base the dimensions of the mag off an original or from scratch?

Posted: 8/10/2018 3:33:11 PM EDT

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@Brownells

Will you be offering complete XM177 uppers?

Posted: 8/10/2018 3:42:31 PM EDT

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Exterior is based on the original.

Posted: 8/10/2018 3:43:15 PM EDT

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Will you be offering complete XM177 uppers?

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Yes, with the pinned 12.7" barrel, with a non-pinned 11.5" and a 1-7 twist model. Available this Fall.

Posted: 8/10/2018 5:13:12 PM EDT

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Applause !!!

Posted: 8/10/2018 5:24:29 PM EDT

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Outstanding! Making my retro dreams come come true.

Posted: 8/10/2018 5:40:37 PM EDT

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If they feed as well as the 20's that I have I'll pass...I can't get the two mags I have to work for the life of me.

Posted: 8/10/2018 5:40:54 PM EDT

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Saucy.

Posted: 8/10/2018 6:14:11 PM EDT

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You TEASE! I am all excited about the upcoming BR10's and now you throw this at us out of the blue! @Brownells, When will these be available for purchase? Will it be possible to produce any without the "hump" (or stop) underneath the mag catch hole, so that they can be used with the NoDak Spud prototype lowers that many of us used to build our prototype rifles? I know that we can just smash the hump to try and get them to work, but they would be better if they did not have the hump to begin with. What else do you have in the works for us retro junkies . . .? Do you feel the least bit guilty for feeding our ADDICTIONS?

Posted: 8/10/2018 6:54:46 PM EDT

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Love the stuff you guys are releasing but would really love to just see the retro stuff in stock to buy.

Hint.....20” 1:12 A1 barrels, tear drop FAs, correct A1 dust covers, 20 rounds mags, %80 A1 receivers etc etc

Posted: 8/10/2018 7:52:12 PM EDT

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Those are not the same mags as in the picture of your OP. The OP picture looks like a 25 rounder, those look even longer!

Posted: 8/10/2018 8:02:32 PM EDT

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Those are not the same mags as in the picture of your OP. The OP picture looks like a 25 rounder, those look even longer!

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Maybe just the angle of the mags in the photo, making them LOOK longer?

Posted: 8/10/2018 8:19:21 PM EDT

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Maybe just the angle of the mags in the photo, making them LOOK longer?

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Those are not the same mags as in the picture of your OP. The OP picture looks like a 25 rounder, those look even longer!

Maybe just the angle of the mags in the photo, making them LOOK longer?

Nope, the bottoms are definitely longer. Maybe prototype 30s? What's the chance of the 25 rounders costing $20 or less?

Posted: 8/10/2018 8:19:38 PM EDT

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Maybe just the angle of the mags in the photo, making them LOOK longer?

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Those are not the same mags as in the picture of your OP. The OP picture looks like a 25 rounder, those look even longer!

Maybe just the angle of the mags in the photo, making them LOOK longer?

Nope, the bottoms are definitely longer. Maybe prototype 30s? What's the chance of the 25 rounders costing $20 or less?

Posted: 8/10/2018 8:30:02 PM EDT

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Do want!!!!

Posted: 8/10/2018 8:53:38 PM EDT

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can ya'll pin mags to 10 rounds? I would buy so many damn 20 rounders.

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What he said!

If those 25 rounders could be blocked off to only hold 10 (for us prisoners of Kaliforniastan), I would give Brownell's even MORE of my money.

Posted: 8/10/2018 9:59:03 PM EDT

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Semi-related,

Any update on the new batch of waffle mags?

Posted: 8/10/2018 10:15:53 PM EDT

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Nope, the bottoms are definitely longer. Maybe prototype 30s? What's the chance of the 25 rounders costing $20 or less?

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Remember when Brownell's posted the photos of their waffle mags? People were saying the "shape" was wrong, and that the lines were not deep enough. Then Mike at NDS said that he had the mags made for Brownells, and all was OK. My point is that maybe Brownell's is not the best at taking photos of magazines.

Posted: 8/11/2018 9:16:37 AM EDT

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I never thought I'd see the day.

Posted: 8/11/2018 10:00:56 AM EDT

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That awkward feeling when you just bought 20rd mag bodies to cut and tig weld into 25rders....

New project, Colt Vietnam era 50rd

Now if only someone would make some Prototype uppers!

Posted: 8/11/2018 11:03:33 AM EDT

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@Brownells can you post a pic with a 25 rounder in between a 20 and a 30?

Posted: 8/11/2018 11:17:41 AM EDT

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Nice, I’m in! I’m hoping they will work with the NDS prototype lowers that some of us have. Pre order yet?

Posted: 8/11/2018 11:21:28 AM EDT

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Nice, I’m in! I’m hoping they will work with the NDS prototype lowers that some of us have. Pre order yet?

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The NDS-15 lower does not have the broach cut on the left hand side of the magwell for the bump out. You would have to flatten or remove it.

Posted: 8/11/2018 12:10:51 PM EDT

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The NDS-15 lower does not have the broach cut on the left hand side of the magwell for the bump out. You would have to flatten or remove it.

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I haz a Dremel!

Posted: 8/12/2018 9:36:39 AM EDT

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i like that

Posted: 8/12/2018 2:10:55 PM EDT

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The NDS-15 lower does not have the broach cut on the left hand side of the magwell for the bump out. You would have to flatten or remove it.

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@mike_nds about how many NDS-15 lowers did you produce?

Posted: 8/12/2018 4:53:16 PM EDT

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The NDS-15 lower does not have the broach cut on the left hand side of the magwell for the bump out. You would have to flatten or remove it.

@mike_nds about how many NDS-15 lowers did you produce?

The first batch was 105, the second batch just machined is 50.

I have not yet begun processing them as we have to make some more bolt hold latches too.

Posted: 8/12/2018 11:16:22 PM EDT

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@Brownells

Please think about removing the bump for the mag catch. If you do it will work in all lowers if you don’t all the proto lowers out there (for this mag is for) won’t work.

I won’t pretend I know lots about stamping mags, but maybe bother can be done with an extra step in the stamping?

Posted: 8/13/2018 11:46:27 AM EDT

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Please think about removing the bump for the mag catch. If you do it will work in all lowers if you don’t all the proto lowers out there (for this mag is for) won’t work.

I won’t pretend I know lots about stamping mags, but maybe bother can be done with an extra step in the stamping?

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There's all of 150 prototype lowers out there. You can make a mandrel and pound the bump flat w/ a hammer.

Posted: 8/13/2018 12:24:37 PM EDT

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This is the correct answer.

The VAST majority of these will used on standard magwells as NDS is the only company silly enough make such a beast.

Posted: 8/13/2018 2:19:11 PM EDT

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You should do the entire 5.56 retro line with a 1:7 twist option.

(...and then you should drop a Colt DOE style upper and make the club go crazy)

Posted: 8/13/2018 3:30:15 PM EDT

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Do you have an example pic of this? Would think it would end up fugly.

Think it would be easier to add the bump then to take it away.

Posted: 8/13/2018 4:01:45 PM EDT

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Do you have an example pic of this? Would think it would end up fugly.

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It's very, very easy to take away.

This is commonly done to make AR-180 mags, along with cutting the catch and lowering the BHO notch.

Additionally, nobody actually wants to remove the bump, because nobody actually owns a prototype Armalite receiver.

Why is this being discussed?

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