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Posted: 5/12/2024 2:27:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ssimo]
Hi guys, i just took my new toy (colt cr6921) to the range, shoot it with sellier & bellot 223 factory fmj ammo. Zero issues, accuracy seems good with 2 MOA groups using an aimpoint comp m3 with 2 moa dot, the only thing is that I noticed a little bit of paint (or better say "finish") already chipped off on the back of the edge of the brass deflector. I know it is no big deal and i know that the brass deflector is there to.. deflect brass and it will get some finish wear overtime but it never happened to me so quickly and not in that location so i was curious: is this to be expected?
Brass looks fine, strong and repeateable ejection at 4 o'clock, normal recoil impulse. There were some regular brass marks on the front of the brass deflector with no paint chipping off Thanks :) Pic attached 
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Posted: 5/12/2024 2:33:41 PM EDT
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Touch it up with a paint pen.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 2:34:07 PM EDT
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Was the upper new or new to you? Shouldn't be paint on a upper. Looks off to me.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 2:40:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ssimo]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FOX_OSCAR_hook: Was the upper new or new to you? Shouldn't be paint on a upper. Looks off to me. The one you see that from the pic could look like a rough paint job is not paint, it's ballistol oil. The upper is new, the whole rifle is a new in sealed colt box colt cr6921 with all the cage code and the stuff, from a reputate gunsmith here in Milan, italy |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 2:42:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DoubleTaps: Touch it up with a paint pen. Why should i? Being an aluminum part, even without paint it will not rust right? I don't care about a cosmetic detail like this on a rifle i will use a lot, i was just asking myself (and you) if it is normal to get paint chipping off after only a few rounds or if maybe there is a issue with the finish |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:05:16 PM EDT
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The upper is hard anodized not painted so I highly doubt the ejecting brass caused that.
That brass deflector hit something harder.. if the damage was not there out of the box it was caused later by OP or before the purchase someone (the mfg, the proof house or the gun shop) touched it up with a sharpie that was later removed by the solvents used by OP |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:11:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frens: The upper is hard anodized not painted so I highly doubt the ejecting brass caused that. That brass deflector hit something harder.. if the damage was not there out of the box it was caused later by OP or before the purchase someone (the mfg, the proof house or the gun shop) touched it up with a sharpie that was later removed by the solvents used by OP It literally appeared during the first shooting session, it wasn't there before going to the range. The rifle was never drop and handled with care. Amd the location of the ding seems to suggest it was from brass no? The only thing i remember is that, because of the structure of the range, the brass was hitting a wall and bouncing back on me and probably on the rifle but that would still be brass! So it seems like there is an actual issue with the finish on this rifle, my usual luck 😂 |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:24:54 PM EDT
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It looks like the light is reflecting on the edge of the brass deflector but, from what I can see the brass has been making the marks on the deflector.
Totally normal in my opinion. All mine gave brass marks on the deflector and it's nothing to worry about. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:40:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nobody69s: It looks like the light is reflecting on the edge of the brass deflector but, from what I can see the brass has been making the marks on the deflector. Totally normal in my opinion. All mine gave brass marks on the deflector and it's nothing to worry about. Brass marks on the deflector are something i am used to and they were there and, as usual, the just come off wiping them with clp. That said, that one in the pic is not a brass mark, it is a ding in the finish, i guarantee 100%. This didn't look normal because I never experienced it with any of my other colts so I asked.. I don't like the fact that future brass strikes in that place could chip the finish off even more but it's ok. I just accept that, if a gun is defective, it will end up in my hands soon or late 
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:41:54 PM EDT
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The guns fine, don't sweat it....run it.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 4:44:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M4BlackRifle]
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Bumps and dings on Colt AR's is not that uncommon. The Colt rifle is a working mans tool, and not a collectible.
Birchwood Casey Aluminum Black does work. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 4:45:06 PM EDT
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It's not unusual for Colts to come from the factory with little finish nicks and dings. That is also one of the farthest protruding parts of the upper receiver and pretty much every AR that you'll find in a military armory, or even just the most used ones that you have, will wear the anodizing color in that area.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 4:51:43 PM EDT
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That's basically the furthest protruding point on that side of the rifle. Probably not from shooting. My guess is the rifle was laid down on the bench or it happened in a case.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 4:53:28 PM EDT
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Yeah when i bought this i choose it between 3 others. The other two had scratches from the factory or the proof house. One of the three even had some yellow paint (!!) under the barrel ahah
That said, this one didn't have that ding before shooting it. The finish should not have week points since it is not handmade, it should be uniform. So the Weird. So the consensus here is that this is not due to brass hitting the deflector.. i don't know, I just hope the finish on the rifle is not somehow detective Nd will wear like this elsewhere |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 4:54:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: That's basically the furthest protruding point on that side of the rifle. Probably not from shooting. My guess is the rifle was laid down on the bench or it happened in a case. I only lean it on a soft shooting rest and the case is a soft one.. weird |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:01:32 PM EDT
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Honestly you probably didn’t noticed it was there until after the range. I have that same wearing on that spot but it seems to be running from the carry bag.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:05:12 PM EDT
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Damn guys you were right, it was already there before statting shooting. I sali it in a pic i took of the rfile i sent to a girl before starting shooting ahah
That's weird, i never bumped the rifle and always handled it with care, it must have came from the factory like that. Good to know, unusual wear is much more worrying than a ding from the factory. At colt they are animals lol |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:06:45 PM EDT
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Just so you understand, the receiver has no finish on it. It's anodized, which is an acid bath treatment, which creates a significantly hardened "skin." There's literally nothing to "chip" off, only get scratched or gouged. If it penetrates through the hardened layer, you'll see shiny aluminum.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:12:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
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It's not a painted or coated. Anodizing is a surface conversion. It does not chip.
Spent brass does not impact the deflector in that area. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:14:06 PM EDT
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So is is normal for colt ARs to be scratched and dinged from the factory? That is funny but i actually like the fact that they treat them as tools riggt from the factory
Probably they just lean components on each other without much care |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:15:04 PM EDT
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Yeah i understand.. basically a little chunk of aluminum went flying lol
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:19:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:22:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: They get handled a bit.... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/6145256158_9123708d10_b_jpg-3212678.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/rawImage_jpg-3212679.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/15_jpg-3212680.JPG Wtf, is that colt factory? They literally don't give a fuck |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:22:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jmo371: The guns fine, don't sweat it....run it. This It isn’t a Gucci bolt gun with shiny bluing and exotic wood. It is a weapon meant to be tossed down the proverbial driveway. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:24:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ssimo: Wtf, is that colt factory? They literally don't give a fuck They are treated like hammers before ever getting boxed. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:34:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ssimo: Wtf, is that colt factory? They literally don't give a fuck Yes. War tools. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:48:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ssimo: Wtf, is that colt factory? They literally don't give a fuck Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ssimo: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: They get handled a bit.... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/6145256158_9123708d10_b_jpg-3212678.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/rawImage_jpg-3212679.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/15_jpg-3212680.JPG Wtf, is that colt factory? They literally don't give a fuck military grade!!!!! |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:55:24 PM EDT
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A small mark like that could easily be. from laying the rifle on a shooting bench, bumping up against another rifle in a vault, or rubbing against a magazine somewhere. I wouldn't worry about it.
It can't be paint chipping because there isn't paint unless it was an unusual upper that someone painted or had coated. It looks more like a place where the anodizing was scraped, worn or rubbed off. It wouldn't bother me in the least. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:59:01 PM EDT
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Factory 6921….perfection!
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:17:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ssimo: So is is normal for colt ARs to be scratched and dinged from the factory? That is funny but i actually like the fact that they treat them as tools riggt from the factory Probably they just lean components on each other without much care Colt builds them to be tools. Many of their customers buy them as collectibles. It's just another one of their quirks. Even a NIB or mint condition Colt AR won't have a perfect finish most of the time |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:22:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-12: Colt builds them to be tools. Many of their customers buy them as collectibles. It's just another one of their quirks. Even a NIB or mint condition Colt AR won't have a perfect finish most of the time This was new in box in fact |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:22:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18B30: Factory 6921….perfection! Yeah luckily we can buy them here, I have 3
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:29:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jdk1: Just so you understand, the receiver has no finish on it. It's anodized, which is an acid bath treatment, which creates a significantly hardened "skin." There's literally nothing to "chip" off, only get scratched or gouged. If it penetrates through the hardened layer, you'll see shiny aluminum. Anodizing is a surface conversion that hardens the exterior of the aluminum. Just because the dye layer is worn through does not mean the anodizing is. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:30:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ssimo: Brass marks on the deflector are something i am used to and they were there and, as usual, the just come off wiping them with clp. That said, that one in the pic is not a brass mark, it is a ding in the finish, i guarantee 100%. This didn't look normal because I never experienced it with any of my other colts so I asked.. I don't like the fact that future brass strikes in that place could chip the finish off even more but it's ok. I just accept that, if a gun is defective, it will end up in my hands soon or late I don't understand how though because it's anodized, isn't it? |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:37:17 PM EDT
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If you actually plan on shooting and using it it's going to keep getting dinged and scratched anyways
Doesn't look like it's from brass. Just a small mark from bumping into something. It's fine. As others have said, birchwood casey alumiblack if you are bothered by it. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:55:58 PM EDT
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Good point. I was thinking about scratches of deep dings, but its good for the OP to understand that he can see shiny wear and know its still good to go! Contrary to the anti-AR crowd, they are awfully tough and accurate rifles. Some of those threadbare Vietnam M16s and still going.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:23:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nobody69s: Now that I'm on my computer I agree that it's a ding in the finish. I don't understand how though because it's anodized, isn't it? Yeah i just learned it so i am not worried anymore. It's ok, the marl was probably there from the factory |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 12:58:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ssimo: Yeah i just learned it so i am not worried anymore. It's ok, the marl was probably there from the factory If that’s the only scratch on the gun The proof house it probably the culprit.. they have to test fire the gun and add a good amount of extra markings to the barrel, bolt, upper and lower receivers. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:59:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frens: If that’s the only scratch on the gun The proof house it probably the culprit.. they have to test fire the gun and add a good amount of extra markings to the barrel, bolt, upper and lower receivers. I have no idea but what i can aay is that I don't care, i was qorried there was an issue with the finish and that's not the case |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:25:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ssimo: I have no idea but what i can aay is that I don't care, i was qorried there was an issue with the finish and that's not the case On a side note, could you post pix of the added Italian proofs that the barrels and receivers got? Just interesting to see what was required. Were the upper and bolt serial numbered too at the proof house? |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:44:57 AM EDT
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Gun is fine.
Interesting to see that much finish wear on the bolt where it has impacted the dust cover to pop it open. Doubt that happened in 1 shot. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:46:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lazyengineer: Gun is fine. Interesting to see that much finish wear on the bolt where it has impacted the dust cover to pop it open. Doubt that happened in 1 shot. OP stated that he zeroed the gun at the range. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:50:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: OP stated that he zeroed the gun at the range. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By lazyengineer: Gun is fine. Interesting to see that much finish wear on the bolt where it has impacted the dust cover to pop it open. Doubt that happened in 1 shot. OP stated that he zeroed the gun at the range. Did he close the flap after every shot? |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 8:16:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lazyengineer: Did he close the flap after every shot? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lazyengineer: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By lazyengineer: Gun is fine. Interesting to see that much finish wear on the bolt where it has impacted the dust cover to pop it open. Doubt that happened in 1 shot. OP stated that he zeroed the gun at the range. Did he close the flap after every shot? I don't have the answer to that. 40 rds, you'd think it'd be one and done. Maybe the usual finger fucking at the LGS, or maybe the OP just enjoys hearing the port door opening? 
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Posted: 5/13/2024 8:41:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: OP stated that he zeroed the gun at the range. I not only zeroed it actually, i shot more or less 40 rounds plinking and trying some groupings |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 8:42:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lazyengineer: Did he close the flap after every shot? Of course not but there is almost no wear in that area, the pic is confounding |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 10:53:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Tiribulus]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: Spent brass does not impact the deflector in that area. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 1:09:45 PM EDT
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black sharpie pen works wonders...lol
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Posted: 5/13/2024 1:16:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By scottrh2: On a side note, could you post pix of the added Italian proofs that the barrels and receivers got? Just interesting to see what was required. Were the upper and bolt serial numbered too at the proof house? Proof markings requirements change over time… My early Colt (2000 era) only has proof house markings on the barrel. But I was imported from Germany. Later on I guess they realized the AR was a giant Lego and the second Colt (2008) has proof house markings on barrel upper lower and bolt carrier (no bolt iirc). Same for the 2013 surplus 613. None of these has the SN copied/pasted to other components.    The 2021 SOCOM spare barrel and bolt required a custom SN in order to be registered.. being spare components Im not sure if complete rifles get the SN added to the barrel. OP will be able to give more info.   |
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Posted: 5/15/2024 11:13:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bravo5two]
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Yes, brass markings at the deflector is definitely okay. Now if those markings are on the door of your Ferrari, I would be furious
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