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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:49:39 PM EDT
[#1]
Just got my replacements from Holosun for the early AEMS with the incorrect pin spacing. They sent me a shipping label, sent the old ones back, and they sent me new ones with serial numbers over 11000.
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Posted: 8/5/2022 9:42:52 PM EDT
[#2]
Hard not to make the comparison to an EOTech.
My best summation is that the AEMS is to the EXPS what a T2 is to a PRO.   My sole gripe was the factory mount not being QD; this was solved with the aftermarket ADM. Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been using my AEMS with an ADM 2.33 riser with my nods and it's pretty awesome. The body of the AEMS almost disappears and you have the Eotech style reticle floating around. Glad I snagged one. |
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Posted: 8/6/2022 12:44:58 PM EDT
[#3]
I keep looking at the AEMS. It ticks off a lot of wants but I just can’t seem to pull the trigger. In fact, I started to order one and saw PSA was running sales on their Eotech optics. It then got me thinking about the Meprolight RDS Pro V2. I went with the RDS Pro V2 with a green bullseye reticle. I just got it in and man the window is big and clear.
Now, with that being said, I’m still thinking about an AEMS at some point. Maybe for my AR. I think I will buy another RDS Pro V2 for my x95 and Aug. I really like that optic on my Tavor Sar. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 4:03:51 AM EDT
[#4]
according to the specs posted on the Holosun website, the viewing window of the AEMS is slightly smaller than that of the 510 or the 512. interesting... must be due to the ruggedized enclosure?
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Posted: 8/7/2022 8:17:32 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Checked out the AEMS at my local store today and I really liked it. I want something about this size or so for my 9mm sub gun B&T APC9K. Problem with the Holosun AEMS is it sits up too high on the factory mount and there is no aftermarket support for any other mount. I have slight Astigmatism and the dot and circle were crystal clear through the AEMS. I need to get an optic now and was hoping for this AEMS to work since Aimpoint still has not released the Acro P2. I tried my Eotech exp2 but it’s too big for this gun my MRO would work but I’m wanting slightly small to make fitting in small back pack super easy. Maybe the new Primary Arms prism optic would be best for my B&T? I went with a 509t and it is awesome!  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 10:25:01 AM EDT
[#6]
EOTech window size:
1.2 x 0.8" AEMS window size: 1.1 x 0.87” Quote HistoryQuoted: according to the specs posted on the Holosun website, the viewing window of the AEMS is slightly smaller than that of the 510 or the 512. interesting... must be due to the ruggedized enclosure? |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:06:39 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I went with a 509t and it is awesome! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/174758/9CC16BB7-8128-45D2-8BA8-844E77E11623_jpe-2480224.JPG It has a lot more parallax than an AEMS apparently, which may not be a big deal on a pistol or PCC but is something to consider. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:34:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I got my AEMS in yesterday and just did a rough parallax test for home defense distances using an M4 zero target taped up in my garage and the optic resting at random intervals determined by where I could put it down in a stable position. I compared it against an unmounted 509T I had handy. Pictures were also taken to show the difference in tint. The AEMS without lens protectors shows minor improvement in image quality but I didn’t capture that. The AEMS has virtually no edge distortion compared to the significant fish bowling at the upper 1/3 of the 509T. I attempted to capture the difference in edge distortion, but my phone couldn’t manually focus and I couldn’t keep a target focus long enough while holding the optics at arms length. At 6 ft and also 14 ft, the AEMS seemed to have a possible shift of about 0.65” while the 509T could shift about 0.34”. At 17-18 ft, it was 0.5” and 0.25” respectively. It would be worth checking parallax at 25/50/100/200, but I doubt I’ll have time to test it at my range. *no idea why the text went red. 14 ft and the same as I could distinguish when checked at 6ft https://i.ibb.co/MsX7bnw/B74-F5563-165-C-43-F8-8-F3-F-649-ED7-D7-C833.jpg 17-18 ft measurements https://i.ibb.co/5cvg3Jw/5-AB5626-A-9196-48-F3-A4-A4-159-CAA695-C6-F.jpg Side-by-side in front of white monitor https://i.ibb.co/vJXjCdG/C4933-D07-E1-C1-44-A7-8182-A7-D2-E40-F12-EA.jpg Side-by-side again https://i.ibb.co/9v6Dj43/EA3-BCEAD-E22-B-4661-BF1-D-BE184-DF24-D9-D.jpg AEMS https://i.ibb.co/zXvq0ht/1-FD73-BCF-6-A09-4-EE3-B5-A3-ECB2-C6-E68089.jpg 509T https://i.ibb.co/7SzkmtW/34208-C2-C-5-D51-4518-BC90-D441-A165-EA3-B.jpg larger resolution images: https://imgur.com/a/wDeBLXJ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Nice...dare to comment on any parallax shift?  I got my AEMS in yesterday and just did a rough parallax test for home defense distances using an M4 zero target taped up in my garage and the optic resting at random intervals determined by where I could put it down in a stable position. I compared it against an unmounted 509T I had handy. Pictures were also taken to show the difference in tint. The AEMS without lens protectors shows minor improvement in image quality but I didn’t capture that. The AEMS has virtually no edge distortion compared to the significant fish bowling at the upper 1/3 of the 509T. I attempted to capture the difference in edge distortion, but my phone couldn’t manually focus and I couldn’t keep a target focus long enough while holding the optics at arms length. At 6 ft and also 14 ft, the AEMS seemed to have a possible shift of about 0.65” while the 509T could shift about 0.34”. At 17-18 ft, it was 0.5” and 0.25” respectively. It would be worth checking parallax at 25/50/100/200, but I doubt I’ll have time to test it at my range. *no idea why the text went red. 14 ft and the same as I could distinguish when checked at 6ft https://i.ibb.co/MsX7bnw/B74-F5563-165-C-43-F8-8-F3-F-649-ED7-D7-C833.jpg 17-18 ft measurements https://i.ibb.co/5cvg3Jw/5-AB5626-A-9196-48-F3-A4-A4-159-CAA695-C6-F.jpg Side-by-side in front of white monitor https://i.ibb.co/vJXjCdG/C4933-D07-E1-C1-44-A7-8182-A7-D2-E40-F12-EA.jpg Side-by-side again https://i.ibb.co/9v6Dj43/EA3-BCEAD-E22-B-4661-BF1-D-BE184-DF24-D9-D.jpg AEMS https://i.ibb.co/zXvq0ht/1-FD73-BCF-6-A09-4-EE3-B5-A3-ECB2-C6-E68089.jpg 509T https://i.ibb.co/7SzkmtW/34208-C2-C-5-D51-4518-BC90-D441-A165-EA3-B.jpg larger resolution images: https://imgur.com/a/wDeBLXJ @DDS87 Huh? It appears in this test that the parallax is about half as bad. It has some fishbowl effect and the tint is a little darker but for the weight savings I gain with the 509T I think I’ll stay with it on a small platform. I think the AEMS would shine on a larger/heavier platform and will probably get one. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:46:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @DDS87 Huh? It appears in this test that the parallax is about half as bad. It has some fishbowl effect and the tint is a little darker but for the weight savings I gain with the 509T I think I’ll stay with it on a small platform. I think the AEMS would shine on a larger/heavier platform and will probably get one. Interesting, my bad for not checking the first page, I had forgotten about that test. In that case you're right, the 509T actually does come out on top, at those short distances with a max of 6 yards. We've seen from other tests that parallax error can change a bit at further distances more often shot with a carbine. People also seem to report inconsistent amounts of distortion between Holosun units, which may or may not contribute to these findings. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:52:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting, my bad for not checking the first page, I had forgotten about that test. In that case you're right, the 509T actually does come out on top, at those short distances with a max of 6 yards. We've seen from other tests that parallax error can change a bit at further distances more often shot with a carbine. People also seem to report inconsistent amounts of distortion between Holosun units, which may or may not contribute to these findings. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @DDS87 Huh? It appears in this test that the parallax is about half as bad. It has some fishbowl effect and the tint is a little darker but for the weight savings I gain with the 509T I think I’ll stay with it on a small platform. I think the AEMS would shine on a larger/heavier platform and will probably get one. Interesting, my bad for not checking the first page, I had forgotten about that test. In that case you're right, the 509T actually does come out on top, at those short distances with a max of 6 yards. We've seen from other tests that parallax error can change a bit at further distances more often shot with a carbine. People also seem to report inconsistent amounts of distortion between Holosun units, which may or may not contribute to these findings. Yeah, when you get near the edges many optics suffer. I try to avoid the edges! 
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Posted: 8/7/2022 12:57:36 PM EDT
[#11]
I appreciate their innovation and like a lot of HS's optics except for 3 things...
1) Made in China 2) Made in China 3) The battery trays (on models so equipped) feel jenky and require tools to change. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 2:47:43 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I appreciate their innovation and like a lot of HS's optics except for 3 things... 1) Made in China 2) Made in China 3) The battery trays (on models so equipped) feel jenky and require tools to change. Interesting. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 3:38:33 PM EDT
[#13]
Very. I needed tools to replace batteries on my RMRs and SRO, and I lost my zero on the RMR as well.
Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting. |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 4:59:55 PM EDT
[#14]
Not sure if I've been living under a rock.
Holosun now sells the AEMS Core. Its basically a red dot that lacks the lens covers/circle dot. It just has a single red/green dot, and comes in at about $90-$120 cheaper Im willing to give the AEMS another try (only got rid of it because the reticle was canted. The canting was verified, it wasn't just me.) Seems harder to screw up just the dot.
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Posted: 8/11/2022 5:36:08 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure if I've been living under a rock. Holosun now sells the AEMS Core. Its basically a red dot that lacks the lens covers/circle dot. It just has a single red/green dot, and comes in at about $90-$120 cheaper Im willing to give the AEMS another try (only got rid of it because the reticle was canted. The canting was verified, it wasn't just me.) Seems harder to screw up just the dot. I think you give up solar too. |
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Posted: 8/12/2022 11:37:10 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think you give up solar too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not sure if I've been living under a rock. Holosun now sells the AEMS Core. Its basically a red dot that lacks the lens covers/circle dot. It just has a single red/green dot, and comes in at about $90-$120 cheaper Im willing to give the AEMS another try (only got rid of it because the reticle was canted. The canting was verified, it wasn't just me.) Seems harder to screw up just the dot. I think you give up solar too. The Core model is dot only, no lens covers and no solar panels. It’s also machined differently too. |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 12:26:57 PM EDT
[#17]
Did they make any significant change on the glass on these ahead in early copy and it had pretty significant fisheye for a rifle optic as well as some native magnification. It looked great under nods but daytime use sucked for me as I'm sensitive to distortion.
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Posted: 8/23/2022 8:29:08 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did they make any significant change on the glass on these ahead in early copy and it had pretty significant fisheye for a rifle optic as well as some native magnification. It looked great under nods but daytime use sucked for me as I'm sensitive to distortion. They changed the mounting screw positions slightly from the very early ones, so maybe? Mine has a slight fisheye, but you really have to be looking for it. I primarily bought it for a night time optic and it works wonderfully at that, and seems to be sturdier than an eotech from the sage dynamics tests. I think the varying reports are just different people having different sensitivities to it. As long as I get hits on what I'm aiming at it doesn't bother me. IMO this is an action optic, not something to sit there and shoot from a bench all day with. |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 10:27:10 PM EDT
[#19]
Thanks for the impression. It's definitely a sensitivity thing. I am super right eye dominant and I am only corrected with prk in my right eye, so my right eye overrides my left. That means even with both eyes open I'm seeing mostly through the optic. I hate 20mm rds for the same reason.
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Posted: 8/24/2022 12:14:30 AM EDT
[#20]
 Aimpoint T2 Vs Holosun AEMS - The new king of the dark? |
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Posted: 8/27/2022 10:54:23 AM EDT
[#21]
finally checked one out the there day. some distortion (compared to my other holosuns) but not bad. Not as clear as the 512 but much lighter. still trying to decide between this and a 512 for next build. Will probably go AEMS for the weight savings.
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Posted: 10/14/2022 10:05:43 PM EDT
[#22]
I bought one of these guys on the used market for $320 and the seller said it was practically brand new. When it came in I notice that the reticle reflects off the roof of the optic when the reticle is in the center of the window to about the upper 1/3 then disappears. Makes the circle dot extremely annoying to use. Anyone else's do this or did I get jipped? Here's a pic https://i.imgur.com/oc11FVI.jpg.
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Posted: 10/15/2022 11:09:21 PM EDT
[#23]
100% I cannot reproduce that behavior on my green AEMS.
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:06:09 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I bought one of these guys on the used market for $320 and the seller said it was practically brand new. When it came in I notice that the reticle reflects off the roof of the optic when the reticle is in the center of the window to about the upper 1/3 then disappears. Makes the circle dot extremely annoying to use. Anyone else's do this or did I get jipped? Here's a pic https://i.imgur.com/oc11FVI.jpg. https://i.imgur.com/oc11FVI.jpg I've got 3 of the Red AEMS and I don't see this problem with any of them. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:16:19 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've got 3 of the Red AEMS and I don't see this problem with any of them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I bought one of these guys on the used market for $320 and the seller said it was practically brand new. When it came in I notice that the reticle reflects off the roof of the optic when the reticle is in the center of the window to about the upper 1/3 then disappears. Makes the circle dot extremely annoying to use. Anyone else's do this or did I get jipped? Here's a pic https://i.imgur.com/oc11FVI.jpg. https://i.imgur.com/oc11FVI.jpg I've got 3 of the Red AEMS and I don't see this problem with any of them. I only have a sample of one I just bought, but I don't see this problem either. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 5:44:54 PM EDT
[#26]
Thanks guys. I went down to my LGS to compare mine to theirs and mine is definitely defective. Hoping that Holosun fixes it free of charge since it really does seem brand new. Definitely the last time I'm buying 2nd hand market. This has happened to me twice now were I get sent a messed up optic. Last time it was a Steiner scope and they were luckily pretty good about fixing it free of charge.
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Posted: 11/24/2022 12:40:19 AM EDT
[#27]
Question, would you guys use the AEMS as a duty grade optic? I’m still tempted to give one of these a try and a holographic sight too. Maybe Vortex UH-1.
I am running Meprolight RDS Pro V2 on three rifles and really love that optic. The green bullseye reticle is crisp and clear. Anyone running a green reticle AEMS? |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 12:53:38 AM EDT
[#28]
Pleasantly surprised. I picked up an AEMS not long after they first came out. I recently ordered a low mount, fully expecting that it wouldn’t fit, and I’d be exchanging my sight for a new one. The factory low mount works perfectly.
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Posted: 12/23/2022 1:52:57 PM EDT
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It took over a year, but the Reptilia 1.93" is now shipping to dealers:
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