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9/7/2019 8:18:57 PM EDT
Here are some of the FoldAR product updates released this week:
1) Upper/Lower tolerance adjustments.
We have made tolerance adjustments to resolve the fit between our uppers and some "Mil-Spec" lowers.

2) Fully Adjustable Gasblocks.
Our prior non-adjustable gasblocks were being supplied by Faxon Firearms. These were failing at an unacceptable rate due to improper heat treat and/or improper material in combination with a fragile design.
We have redesigned the gasblock to include a fully adjustable needle valve, and have made the design more robust. Our new gasblocks have been tested with a variety of machine gun applications and perform flawlessly. Like our barrels and locking lever/hook assemblies, these are QPQ "Melonite" coated.

New FoldAR Fully Adjustable Gasblocks (.750" and .625"):

Old Faxon Firearms Gasblocks:


3) FoldAR Pistol Stabilizing Brace.
The Double FoldAR product line will now come with our own designed and manufactured pistol stabilizing braces. Benefits with our design include:
-Full NFA compliance when installed on the Dead Foot Arms MCS folding stock adapter.
-Installs on a standard Mil-Spec buffer tube (i.e. no expensive and difficult to install buffer tube required).
-A more compact, simple, and affordable design.



4) Locking Lever Pull-Lanyard.
A number of customers have requested a pull-lanyard option in order to avoid needing a cartridge to unlock the lever.
We have now incorporated this as a standard feature. The lanyard may be easily removed for those who don't want it, and the rim of a cartridge will still work just fine to unlock the lever.


5) Dimpled Barrel.
We are now machining dimples into the barrel where the gasblock setscrews mount the gasblock to the barrel.
The dimples are positioned in such a manner that forces the gasblock up against the journal shoulder and automatically aligns to with 1 degree TDC.

Right now we have stock in 9" 5.56 (223Wylde) uppers and Double FoldAR configurations, and mixed availability on other configurations, calibers, and lengths as shown on the website.
Use promo code ARFCOM to get 20% off of the 5.56 9" Double FoldAR (item SKU 0110) for a limited time.




In the coming months (approaching SHOTSHOW) we will be pushing hard on the 6.8mm SPC. Reasons for this are:
A) We have found that the 6.8mm SPC performs equal to or better than the 6.5mm Grendel in barrels 16 inches and under.
B) Since the Army recently proposed adoption of the 6.8mm SPC, we anticipate ammo availability and options to drastically increase, and prices to decrease.
C) We have also found that the 6.8mm SPC feeds and ejects better than 6.5mm Grendel in semi-auto platforms.
9/8/2019 7:43:53 PM EDT
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Quoted:  5) Dimpled Barrel.  We are now machining dimples into the barrel where the gasblock setscrews mount the gasblock to the barrel.
The dimples are positioned in such a manner that forces the gasblock up against the journal shoulder and automatically aligns to with 1 degree TDC.
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 Thought you were supposed to have like 1/10" standoff btwn the gas block & the journal for the forward handguard cap.  So are your dimples going to be in the wrong place if we choose to use a different gas block, or are your gasblocks not going to align on another bbl when we go to reuse them?
9/8/2019 7:55:38 PM EDT
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 Thought you were supposed to have like 1/10" standoff btwn the gas block & the journal for the forward handguard cap.  So are your dimples going to be in the wrong place if we choose to use a different gas block, or are your gasblocks not going to align on another bbl when we go to reuse them?
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Quoted:  5) Dimpled Barrel.  We are now machining dimples into the barrel where the gasblock setscrews mount the gasblock to the barrel.
The dimples are positioned in such a manner that forces the gasblock up against the journal shoulder and automatically aligns to with 1 degree TDC.
 Thought you were supposed to have like 1/10" standoff btwn the gas block & the journal for the forward handguard cap.  So are your dimples going to be in the wrong place if we choose to use a different gas block, or are your gasblocks not going to align on another bbl when we go to reuse them?
IIRC the spacing depends on the gas block. Some low profile gas blocks will account for this, others need spacing. Also noticed a lot of low profile gas blocks have a pretty large opening.

FSB for sure seem to need proper space.
9/8/2019 8:11:38 PM EDT
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Send one to me for disposable .....I mean testing
9/8/2019 8:22:03 PM EDT
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 Thought you were supposed to have like 1/10" standoff btwn the gas block & the journal for the forward handguard cap.  So are your dimples going to be in the wrong place if we choose to use a different gas block, or are your gasblocks not going to align on another bbl when we go to reuse them?
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Wont need a different gasblock since these are fully adjustable. Cant fit any other adjustable gasblock under there anyways. And no, never heard of a 1/10" standoff rule... as this would cover up your gasport and render the firearm useless (except for first shot).
9/17/2019 8:18:14 PM EDT
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I have never seen a Faxon gas block break like that. What are you torquing the set screws to?
9/18/2019 7:09:27 AM EDT
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I have never seen a Faxon gas block break like that. What are you torquing the set screws to?
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They would crack even with almost no torque on the set screws during the first few rounds fired. We determined it was improper material being used on one of the entire batches we received. The first 500 we bought didnt have this issue except they would still stretch if tightened down hard. Then when heated up it would relax the fragile design and self-loosen the setscrews, allowing the gasblock to move forward.

So we opted to make our own. If you want it done right...
9/18/2019 10:21:40 AM EDT
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Can those of us with originals order the new gas block?
9/18/2019 10:27:58 AM EDT
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Can those of us with originals order the new gas block?
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Yes, what gasblock size?
I don't want to put them up on the website because I know we wont have any left for production uppers if the gasblocks are made available to the general public.
Existing customer price would be $69 with gas tube installed. Just send an email to [email protected]
9/18/2019 10:29:24 AM EDT
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9/18/2019 11:25:49 AM EDT
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From the OP, you make it seem like the gas block that Faxon supplied was the issue and it was Faxon that is poor quality. Can you clarify this and if you still use Faxon to supply the new ones?
9/18/2019 3:33:12 PM EDT
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From the OP, you make it seem like the gas block that Faxon supplied was the issue and it was Faxon that is poor quality. Can you clarify this and if you still use Faxon to supply the new ones?
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It was Faxon, now they make their own
9/18/2019 3:50:34 PM EDT
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The military isn't picking 6.8 SPC.  They are looking at a 6.8 diameter bullet, but pushed much hotter with more case capacity.  Kinda like a .270 super short magnum.  This is supposed to provide good armor penetration when combined with their new bullet design.
9/19/2019 12:25:10 PM EDT
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The military isn't picking 6.8 SPC.  They are looking at a 6.8 diameter bullet, but pushed much hotter with more case capacity.  Kinda like a .270 super short magnum.  This is supposed to provide good armor penetration when combined with their new bullet design.
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There's no other SAAMI spec 6.8mm centerfire round as far as I know.
Dont count on this being selected...
They will end up defaulting to 6.8mm REM SPC. They just needed something comparable to "evaluate" in order to justify a sound decision (and the additional grant money).
9/21/2019 9:07:47 AM EDT
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Well thought out refinements.

Keep up the good work. And thanks for sharing the improvements.
10/14/2019 11:43:33 PM EDT
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They would crack even with almost no torque on the set screws during the first few rounds fired. We determined it was improper material being used on one of the entire batches we received. The first 500 we bought didnt have this issue except they would still stretch if tightened down hard. Then when heated up it would relax the fragile design and self-loosen the setscrews, allowing the gasblock to move forward.

So we opted to make our own. If you want it done right...
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I’m not trying to be an instigator but just a thought that comes to mind.....

I sorta find it hard to believe a company known for quality and that has been around for a while can’t manage to produce a gas block. Have you spoken to them about this?  I’d love to hear their response. Is it, “our bad, we had some issues”, or is it.....the opposite?

@faxon
10/15/2019 12:11:14 AM EDT
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I’m not trying to be an instigator but just a thought that comes to mind.....

I sorta find it hard to believe a company known for quality and that has been around for a while can’t manage to produce a gas block. Have you spoken to them about this?  I’d love to hear their response. Is it, “our bad, we had some issues”, or is it.....the opposite?

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Why you asking them?
They went out of business via atf last week.
There’s a fantastic thread in gd about it.
10/15/2019 12:50:35 AM EDT
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Wait, what?  Link?

ETA:  You talking about F&D Defense?  Totally different company.
10/15/2019 4:17:55 PM EDT
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I’m not trying to be an instigator but just a thought that comes to mind.....

I sorta find it hard to believe a company known for quality and that has been around for a while can’t manage to produce a gas block. Have you spoken to them about this?  I’d love to hear their response. Is it, “our bad, we had some issues”, or is it.....the opposite?

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We responded to this here: https://www.ar15.com/forums/Industry/Faxon-gas-block-failure-/700-293365/

Pat did a much better job typing it out than I could, but the short is that it was an issue on one batch that we have since corrected and our warranty covers any affected parts.
10/17/2019 3:49:30 PM EDT
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There's no other SAAMI spec 6.8mm centerfire round as far as I know.
Dont count on this being selected...
They will end up defaulting to 6.8mm REM SPC. They just needed something comparable to "evaluate" in order to justify a sound decision (and the additional grant money).
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Are you really trying to convince people .mil is going to be adopting 6.8SPC?

Really?

Because there is absolutely zero evidence of this. If so... put it up.
12/25/2019 11:35:50 AM EDT
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When will <10in 300blk uppers be ready? Will they be available with adjustable gas blocks for suppressor support?
1/12/2020 2:17:08 PM EDT
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When will <10in 300blk uppers be ready? Will they be available with adjustable gas blocks for suppressor support?
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FoldAR’s account is locked, you are not gonna get a response here.
1/12/2020 3:58:40 PM EDT
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FoldAR’s account is locked, you are not gonna get a response here.
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LOL. Saw that coming.
1/12/2020 4:36:24 PM EDT
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LOL. Saw that coming.
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FoldAR’s account is locked, you are not gonna get a response here.
LOL. Saw that coming.
YUP.
2/17/2020 11:50:11 AM EDT
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60 day rule

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