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Posted: 9/22/2018 11:45:32 PM EDT
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Yes, and I use them as grips as opposed to a handstop. Frag wound to my left wrist makes the C-Clamp hold kinda uncomfortable. |
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Posted: 9/22/2018 11:46:34 PM EDT
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I'm kinda weird. VFG for SBR. No VFG on 16". I think it's more of a comfort thing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 9/22/2018 11:52:28 PM EDT
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Yup, still use them but more as handstops on almost all my guns. BCM (short one that angles back), Larue FUG, magpul short straight.
Only VFG I use with my hand wrapped around it is the AUG. You will only make the C clamp or handstop type grip mistake once..... |
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Posted: 9/23/2018 12:03:18 AM EDT
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Yep, a KAC on my patrol rifle, my only rifle with a quad rail. I use it like a AFG to index my thumb straight along my pressure switch. I use it as a rest if the situation allows.
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Posted: 9/23/2018 12:04:06 AM EDT
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Yep, a KAC on my patrol rifle, my only rifle with a quad rail. I use it like a AFG to index my thumb straight along my pressure switch. I use it as a rest if the situation allows.
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Posted: 9/23/2018 2:21:50 AM EDT
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I use them as an index point
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Posted: 9/23/2018 7:46:11 AM EDT
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Well, NY tells us that they're all evil! Of course, they tell us a lot of crazy bulls**t. I do have an index tab (couldn't possibly grip it) from a handstop kit to keep my hand where it needs to be to use my weapon light (warning: may offend some posters' fragile sensibilities): https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/403150/20180824_120652-sm-677625.JPG 
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Good joke... where are the real ones now? 
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Is that a Remington Special Field stock on the left gun? |
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Posted: 9/23/2018 7:59:18 AM EDT
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No, tried both an AFG & VFG and didn't like either, too much extra stuff hanging off the bottom of the gun. Might try a small handstop sometime and see how they are.
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Posted: 9/23/2018 8:08:07 AM EDT
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No, tried both an AFG & VFG and didn't like either, too much extra stuff hanging off the bottom of the gun. Might try a small handstop sometime and see how they are. |
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Posted: 9/23/2018 10:21:09 AM EDT
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No, tried both an AFG & VFG and didn't like either, too much extra stuff hanging off the bottom of the gun. Might try a small handstop sometime and see how they are. |
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Posted: 9/23/2018 11:07:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI like those setups
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Posted: 9/23/2018 12:59:27 PM EDT
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Comfort as in psyche or literal? I guess I'm OCD and binarily pick one favorite over the other...and go with it moving forward. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 9/23/2018 1:09:11 PM EDT
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I don't have any currently, but I have been thinking of going back to it. Not sure if this small handstop stuff is for me.
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Posted: 9/23/2018 1:14:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/23/2018 1:45:44 PM EDT
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I have several.
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Posted: 9/23/2018 2:31:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/23/2018 3:30:28 PM EDT
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Always liked this pic as a good example of the two different ways a VFG gets employed... The guy on the right side is using the "Choke your Chicken" format... The guy on the left side is using it the way I have always used it. Puts the non firing hand at a comfortable position, allows an indexing point as others have mentioned, and places my hand at the optimum location to use my light. You can also pull the gun in tight to control recoil when making fast shots on close multiple targets. I've tried them all over the years, from the original KAC "Gangster grips" that were part of the late 90's SOPMOD kits to the Tango down (There is a reason they came out with the shorter, chopped version). I bought one of those after I chopped a couple of the KAC units to a stubby configuration. The BCM I use now is my favorite. has the right amount of thickness, with a slight angle, solid mounting hardware and the storage works great for spare batteries, small Allen wrenches, small bottle of lube, etc. You can also use it to index up hard against a barricade to steady yourself when taking shots behind cover as well. Like any martial art.. you study, refine, practice and hone your technique... adapt and change as you progress in the discipline. If your just shooting 1 liter soda pop bottles on the back forty, then yea, you most likely don't need or want one. You can watch lots of vids on line to see who actually uses them as part of how they run the gun, or if it's just a cool accessory. They usual go from the grip, to a reload and then grip in a different place on the gun, ignoring the VFG... always makes me chuckle. |
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Posted: 9/23/2018 3:45:32 PM EDT
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https://i.imgur.com/Xz1v7UM.jpg Always liked this pic as a good example of the two different ways a VFG gets employed... The guy on the right side is using the "Choke your Chicken" format... The guy on the left side is using it the way I have always used it. Puts the non firing hand at a comfortable position, allows an indexing point as others have mentioned, and places my hand at the optimum location to use my light. You can also pull the gun in tight to control recoil when making fast shots on close multiple targets. I've tried them all over the years, from the original KAC "Gangster grips" that were part of the late 90's SOPMOD kits to the Tango down (There is a reason they came out with the shorter, chopped version). I bought one of those after I chopped a couple of the KAC units to a stubby configuration. The BCM I use now is my favorite. has the right amount of thickness, with a slight angle, solid mounting hardware and the storage works great for spare batteries, small Allen wrenches, small bottle of lube, etc. You can also use it to index up hard against a barricade to steady yourself when taking shots behind cover as well. Like any martial art.. you study, refine, practice and hone your technique... adapt and change as you progress in the discipline. If your just shooting 1 liter soda pop bottles on the back forty, then yea, you most likely don't need or want one. You can watch lots of vids on line to see who actually uses them as part of how they run the gun, or if it's just a cool accessory. They usual go from the grip, to a reload and then grip in a different place on the gun, ignoring the VFG... always makes me chuckle. |
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Posted: 9/23/2018 9:19:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/23/2018 9:44:26 PM EDT
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Two words. Grip. Pod.
Fat, ugly, bulky, but got dam useful. |
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Posted: 9/23/2018 9:51:45 PM EDT
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Two words. Grip. Pod. Fat, ugly, bulky, but got dam useful. |
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Posted: 9/23/2018 10:09:19 PM EDT
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Hell yeah I do.http://imgur.com/gallery/GIT2Ds5
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Posted: 9/23/2018 10:46:02 PM EDT
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The fat, ugly, bulky moves me towards "there are better options" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Two words. Grip. Pod. Fat, ugly, bulky, but got dam useful. |
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Posted: 9/23/2018 10:46:47 PM EDT
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On my rifles that have them, they are the stubby variety by either Magpul or TangoDown. I use them as several guys mentioned above, with my fingers sort of tucked into that right angle between the grip and the handguard.
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Posted: 9/23/2018 10:55:35 PM EDT
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I have one on a bumpstock-equipped rifle, as it makes it easier to push the gun forward to get the bumpstock to work properly.
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Posted: 9/24/2018 9:51:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same here. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/648/20180728_164232-622185.jpg This is exactly how l use mine; |
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Posted: 9/24/2018 10:36:10 AM EDT
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The few times I considered getting a VFG was for carbine length hand guards. Reason being is I'm used to longer hand guards and I can use the VFG to keep from accidentally burning my hand on the barrel.
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Posted: 9/24/2018 12:40:43 PM EDT
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Have one on my work gun and by goto rifle.
For some reason, using it makes it easier to shoulder the gun when using a plate carrier. Less fatiguing. Idk.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/24/2018 1:02:03 PM EDT
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I have the Bravo Company Vertical Grip. It's vertical, but angled like 15 degrees. Makes for really comfortable hand positioning when using as a handstop.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/manageReply.html?b=3&f=118&t=731613&tl=Do-you-still-have-VFG-on-your-AR-&r=7742311&page=1# |
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Posted: 9/24/2018 2:55:24 PM EDT
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It's an on again-off again affair
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Posted: 9/24/2018 4:55:06 PM EDT
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It's an on again-off again affair https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20046641_1892214861047077_1984208078533278841_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&oh=beb15e2475b3656de3adea6d04b3e1a8&oe=5C2A8811 |
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Posted: 9/24/2018 6:56:17 PM EDT
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All my guns. I'm a VFG fan.
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Posted: 9/24/2018 7:56:51 PM EDT
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Out of curiosity, what's the hive's opinion on folding grips? Good? Bad? Gimick?
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Posted: 9/24/2018 8:13:21 PM EDT
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Out of curiosity, what's the hive's opinion on folding grips? Good? Bad? Gimick? Either commit to one all the time or not at all. |
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Posted: 9/24/2018 8:28:51 PM EDT
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My go to is a BCM gunfighter grip which isn't vert but I use it as a hand stop anyways.
I also have an original KAC vert grip that I used in Iraq that is going on my SPR MK12-ish build that I will also use as a hand stop. Really my point is pretty much it doesn't matter if it's a vert grip, I will be using it as a hand stop. |
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Posted: 9/24/2018 9:30:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just the one, because I like my fingers, and the charging handles reciprocate... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/173511/IMG_20160922_202807631-677423.JPG Anyways, I have a Magpul M-Lok VFG on mine, but im likely going to be swaping it out in time. *Edit* For anyone curious. 
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Posted: 9/24/2018 10:19:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/24/2018 10:26:21 PM EDT
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What is that? Its awesome! Anyways, I have a Magpul M-Lok VFG on mine, but im likely going to be swaping it out in time. *Edit* For anyone curious. https://i.imgur.com/rWSDtOR.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Just the one, because I like my fingers, and the charging handles reciprocate... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/173511/IMG_20160922_202807631-677423.JPG Anyways, I have a Magpul M-Lok VFG on mine, but im likely going to be swaping it out in time. *Edit* For anyone curious. https://i.imgur.com/rWSDtOR.jpg |
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Posted: 9/25/2018 7:06:57 AM EDT
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Gimmick, If I thought they were a good idea, I would have one...It's the idea if 'Maybe you use it, maybe not." Either commit to one all the time or not at all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Out of curiosity, what's the hive's opinion on folding grips? Good? Bad? Gimick? Either commit to one all the time or not at all. 
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Posted: 9/25/2018 1:40:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What the hell is going on with that Ranger plate? |
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Posted: 9/25/2018 2:01:07 PM EDT
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Immediately put one on my first AR. Took it off a few range trips later. I don't hate it and as a hand stop it has utility, I've just found it more limiting than useful in most of the situations I would be using an AR for.
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Posted: 9/25/2018 2:02:27 PM EDT
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On everything with a quad rail.,yes.
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Posted: 9/25/2018 3:17:39 PM EDT
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On my clone guns, yes.
On my modern guns, no. |
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Posted: 9/25/2018 7:53:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Magpul changed their design later on.... |
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Posted: 9/25/2018 7:58:23 PM EDT
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On a work gun yes. On a personal gun no. I broke my wrist in a fall, and some arthritis has set in. A VFG makes it easier for me to lug around all day.
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Posted: 9/25/2018 8:50:41 PM EDT
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https://i.imgur.com/Xz1v7UM.jpg Always liked this pic as a good example of the two different ways a VFG gets employed... The guy on the right side is using the "Choke your Chicken" format... The guy on the left side is using it the way I have always used it. Puts the non firing hand at a comfortable position, allows an indexing point as others have mentioned, and places my hand at the optimum location to use my light. You can also pull the gun in tight to control recoil when making fast shots on close multiple targets. I've tried them all over the years, from the original KAC "Gangster grips" that were part of the late 90's SOPMOD kits to the Tango down (There is a reason they came out with the shorter, chopped version). I bought one of those after I chopped a couple of the KAC units to a stubby configuration. The BCM I use now is my favorite. has the right amount of thickness, with a slight angle, solid mounting hardware and the storage works great for spare batteries, small Allen wrenches, small bottle of lube, etc. You can also use it to index up hard against a barricade to steady yourself when taking shots behind cover as well. Like any martial art.. you study, refine, practice and hone your technique... adapt and change as you progress in the discipline. If your just shooting 1 liter soda pop bottles on the back forty, then yea, you most likely don't need or want one. You can watch lots of vids on line to see who actually uses them as part of how they run the gun, or if it's just a cool accessory. They usual go from the grip, to a reload and then grip in a different place on the gun, ignoring the VFG... always makes me chuckle. |
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Posted: 9/25/2018 9:16:04 PM EDT
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Interesting. Never seen that before. All mine go the other way. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 2:10:13 PM EDT
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Out of curiosity, what's the hive's opinion on folding grips? Good? Bad? Gimick?  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 10:02:50 PM EDT
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While serving I always had a VFG. When I got out I saw a lot of pictures and videos without the VFG so I descided to go slick. After one hunting trip, I found myself gripping the magwell while walking as my wrist being vertical was the most comfortable to me.
One day I spent a summer day doing drills and had a hard time gripping the handguard due to the heat. Most of my rifles have a VFG now. |
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Posted: 10/1/2018 11:46:55 AM EDT
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Yes. Bravo Company MLOK VFG. It's angled at 18*, so it's very comfortable. I don't hold it like a VFG through; I use it as sort of a cross between an afg and a vfg, if that makes sense.
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