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Posted: 11/11/2018 6:30:12 AM EDT
This might be a very stupid question (read: is a very stupid question), but is there any possible negative effects that could come from clamping a forged lower receiver in a vise with nylon soft jaws but without a vise block of any sort? I'm assuming 80% builders have done it before.

I received my Badger Ordnance C1 modular selectors today, and after a frustrating time trying to get the roll pins inserted into the selector switches (who the hell uses roll pins to attach selector switches?) I got impatient, chucked the lower into my table vise, tightened it snug enough not to move, and tapped the pins in. Afterward, I remembered hearing some horror story somewhere about lower receivers getting crushed in vises, but I didn't recall the details. While I'm fairly certain I didn't cock up my lower since I'm pretty sure I clamped down on the most sturdy part of the whole thing and certainly didn't tighten it down as much as I could with my little 3" vise, I figured I should at least ask for a second opinion since I don't know how well lowers stand up to crush forces.

Here's the area where I clamped it, shown in red. About the only indication it was ever in a vise are a couple of tiny marks on the thumb shelf area of my pistol grip; haven't seen any cracks or anything on the lower proper. And yes, I know, I'll be getting a proper magwell vise block soon since it's about the only AR-specific tool I don't have at this point.

Link Posted: 11/11/2018 6:36:33 AM EDT
[#1]
If you didn't reef down on it, I suspect you did no structural damage to it, but I would put it together with the LPK and function check it to make sure you didn't crush something that can't be seen.  That area is actually a stronger area of the lower, so odds are you are fine.
Link Posted: 11/11/2018 6:45:56 AM EDT
[#2]
Thanks, that's what I figured. I gave the handle maybe a half turn after it made contact, not a ton of pressure since the job being done was super light duty.

The LPK is already installed; these selectors were a last-minute add-on. Everything in the FCG appears to be working properly, but the upper it's intended for is out of my hands at the moment. I can test fit it with my existing upper, though I'm assuming as long as the FCG is working right everything should be golden.
Link Posted: 11/11/2018 11:46:17 AM EDT
[#3]
You would really have to crank down on that to do any harm.  There is plenty of meat there.
Link Posted: 11/11/2018 12:01:02 PM EDT
[#4]
You should be fine.

I clamp lowers in my vise between rubber padded vise jaws in the same area to install and remove receiver extensions as per the manual with no issues.
Link Posted: 11/11/2018 12:33:26 PM EDT
[#5]
Can you even bend that alloy?  Won't it just crack?
Link Posted: 11/11/2018 2:31:59 PM EDT
[#6]
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I have one in the shop with a bent magwell on it, guy dropped in on some rocks about 30 below him with out a mag in it and it bent the magwell enough that you can't get a magazine in it.

So it depends on a lot of things, but in certain instances they will bend before they break.
Link Posted: 11/11/2018 8:59:23 PM EDT
[#7]
I've wrapped them in a shop rag and secured in a smooth-jawed vise with nothing bad happening. Pretty much at the area you highlighted. Just be smart about it.
Link Posted: 11/12/2018 12:42:12 AM EDT
[#8]
I've chucked up old mags before and used them as lower blocks for installing some roll pins and tightening the receiver extension down, but other than that, I can do everything on a lower on my table or in my lap.
Link Posted: 11/12/2018 2:31:25 PM EDT
[#9]
Best way to check is get a pair of calipers and check the size of the cavities.  The fcg will either fit, or it won't.
Link Posted: 11/12/2018 2:58:42 PM EDT
[#10]
I have never had a problem clamping in a padded vise to install RE’s.
Link Posted: 11/12/2018 5:00:54 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/12/2018 8:57:00 PM EDT
[#12]
It was in nylon jaws?  You're worrying way too much.
Link Posted: 11/13/2018 8:07:01 PM EDT
[#13]
I use a magazine well block to hold lowers while I work on them.  Although I can't picture how roll pins work with any kind of selector, I have plenty of (obscenity laced) experience with gas tube pins - getting them in or out.  I fixed that by getting a couple of bench blocks and some decent bar clamps because the issue there is keeping the $^*@ing parts from moving around while trying to assemble them.

With all of that, unless you used a vise with rough teeth and tried hard to crush the lower, you're probably fine.
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