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Posted: 11/15/2018 6:56:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/15/2018 7:40:07 PM EDT
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It says made for Czech Military with a Circle 10 on the tin (Bulgaria) I believe it is brass case with bimetal projectile.
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Posted: 11/15/2018 10:35:32 PM EDT
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Doe the bi-metal jacket affect its ability to fragment?
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Posted: 11/15/2018 10:47:05 PM EDT
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See the ammo orracle on combloc ammo.
The short answer for 5.56mm is, yes - bimetal jacketed FMJs fragment poorly if at all. However the 62gr JHP bimetal comblock ammo generally does much better. Personally, I would consider the czech M193 bimetal FMJ to be just like any other bimetal FMJ (poor) unless proven otherwise by documented testing. Good for blasting. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 8:30:58 AM EDT
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Meh, for $0.03/round more I'll just stick to Wolf Gold
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Posted: 11/23/2018 10:18:24 AM EDT
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Did anyone here pick this stuff up? If so and they can spare a box for my collection please let me know. Thanks
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Posted: 12/26/2018 11:48:32 PM EDT
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Lot:P01-13Cartridge Overall Weight: 181 gr
OAL: 2.2475: Powder Charge: 25.60 gr Bullet Weight: 54.70 gr Bullet Length: 0.7545" Bullet Diameter: 0.2245" Primer Type: Boxer Magnetic: Yes Sealed Bullet: Yes Sealed Primer: Yes  5.56x45mm, 55gr FMJ, M193 Czech Surplus by Matt H, on Flickr
 5.56x45mm, 55gr FMJ, M193 Czech Surplus by Matt H, on Flickr
 5.56x45mm, 55gr FMJ, M193 Czech Surplus by Matt H, on Flickr
 5.56x45mm, 55gr FMJ, M193 Czech Surplus by Matt H, on Flickr
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Posted: 12/27/2018 8:21:23 PM EDT
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Tag here as well!
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Posted: 12/29/2018 4:12:29 PM EDT
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@Buffman, were you able to velocity / gel test these yesterday like you had hoped to? Very curious as to the velocity figures and the gel results.
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Posted: 12/29/2018 4:27:16 PM EDT
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I had a popped primer in the first mag in a 10.5 sbr. Its bimetal and won't shoot all that great but it was rather cheap and will work as a paper popper. We were hoping to get some velocity info today but it was hovering around zero this morning and is only up to 14 now don't really feel like lugging out the lab radar.
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Posted: 12/29/2018 9:02:00 PM EDT
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Give me a bit. Busy day with car work. Good m193 velocities but 4 hard primers, and little to no frag
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Posted: 12/29/2018 10:19:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Give me a bit. Busy day with car work. Good m193 velocities but 4 hard primers, and little to no frag 
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Posted: 12/29/2018 10:23:52 PM EDT
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A round doesn't need to fragment if it has reliable consistent tumbling. Ultimately, fragmentation is a means to an end, but it in and of itself isn't the goal. Sufficient wound channel / leathality is the goal.
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Posted: 12/29/2018 11:42:01 PM EDT
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A round doesn't need to fragment if it has reliable consistent tumbling. Ultimately, fragmentation is a means to an end, but it in and of itself isn't the goal. Sufficient wound channel / leathality is the goal.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUAFYW1eaDs
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Posted: 12/30/2018 1:15:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hear you. The fact M193 with a gilding copper/zinc jacket fragments was a fluke, not a design feature. The Bulgarian ammo will still produce a large temporary wound cavity and the liver, spleen or brain won’t survive that. And it will still poke holes in everything else. Quote HistoryQuoted: I hear you. The fact M193 with a gilding copper/zinc jacket fragments was a fluke, not a design feature. The Bulgarian ammo will still produce a large temporary wound cavity and the liver, spleen or brain won’t survive that. And it will still poke holes in everything else. According to this author, here. The old Norinco .223 load is designed to tumble and is very lethal. https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.223+Remington.html" The one brand of 55 grain FMJ ammunition that does tumble is Norinco although the mechanism which initiates yaw on impact is difficult to ascertain. 
Above: The tumbling 55gr FMJ Norinco. Aside from the brand of projectile, this is how Stoner and Hutton first intended the .223 to perform. The exit wound has been cleaned up for inspection. Below is a thumb of the carcass as it was initially found: 
Lastly, for those who are able to find a source, Norinco projectiles do appear on the market from time to time. These projectiles are often sold off, after the original load has been pulled and a new soft point projectile has been seated by an aftermarket manufacturer. The Norinco projectile is simply the most effective .224” bullet available for hunting lighter medium game and hunters should have absolutely no hesitation in trusting it beyond all other .224” offerings. |
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Posted: 12/30/2018 6:19:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/30/2018 9:53:37 PM EDT
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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4825/45619062745_ec6bf60221_c.jpg556bulgym193 by Matt H, on Flickr 
Those bullets are zipping along! Tell us more about the hard primers. Did they go off after another strike? I bought 5 crates of it based on reputation of Bulgarian stuff alone. |
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Posted: 12/30/2018 10:08:24 PM EDT
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The velocities are not bad. The 16" barrel velocities are high but the 20" barrel velocities are a little low. I'm more interested in seeing how the gel results turned out. Did we get early tumbling if they didn't fragment?
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Posted: 12/30/2018 11:17:02 PM EDT
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The velocities are not bad. The 16" barrel velocities are high but the 20" barrel velocities are a little low. I'm more interested in seeing how the gel results turned out. Did we get early tumbling if they didn't fragment? |
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Posted: 12/30/2018 11:29:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Buffman_LT1
Those bullets are zipping along! Tell us more about the hard primers. Did they go off after another strike? I bought 5 crates of it based on reputation of Bulgarian stuff alone. |
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Posted: 12/30/2018 11:32:53 PM EDT
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This was in the AIM SSTAT trigger, and in the TC Compass. When I shot them through a standard AR trigger/hammer setup they did go off. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: @Buffman_LT1
Those bullets are zipping along! Tell us more about the hard primers. Did they go off after another strike? I bought 5 crates of it based on reputation of Bulgarian stuff alone. 
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Posted: 1/12/2019 12:47:32 AM EDT
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 5.56x45mm, 55gr M193, Bulgarian Surplus Review |
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Posted: 1/12/2019 1:28:01 AM EDT
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Great report, thanks!! Looks like it has some fast burning powder! High velocities from the 16" and lower barrels and moderate velocities out of the 20".
Doesn't fragment but seems like it tumbles consistently with good wound channels regardless. |
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