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Posted: 10/19/2018 3:39:22 PM EDT
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Thanks Tig. I ordered from him based upon your recommendation.
The reason I mentioned hoping the BCG / CH combo deal had the "C" is he's also selling "blem" Colt BCG's. The "blem" is ... no marking. "Colt "Blem" BCG non "C" marked We got another small batch of these non C marked blem bcgs. The only thing wrong with these Colt blem bcgs is that they are not C marked. They still have the MPC marked on the top of the bolt, still chrome lined ." I wasn't sure which was included. After re-reading everything ... I think I'll be getting the "C" marked. |
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Posted: 10/19/2018 3:43:51 PM EDT
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Thanks Tig. I ordered from him based upon your recommendation. The reason I mentioned hoping the BCG / CH combo deal had the "C" is he's also selling "blem" Colt BCG's. The "blem" is ... no marking. "Colt "Blem" BCG non "C" marked We got another small batch of these non C marked blem bcgs. The only thing wrong with these Colt blem bcgs is that they are not C marked. They still have the MPC marked on the top of the bolt, still chrome lined ." I wasn't sure which was included. After re-reading everything ... I think I'll be getting the "C" marked. |
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Posted: 10/19/2018 3:44:47 PM EDT
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Yes this is exactly what I ordered and had to call and ask if there was a mistake and I got a non C bcg. But Chris told me they are very faint and look at it under good lighting and you will see it. |
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Posted: 10/19/2018 4:02:42 PM EDT
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Yes this is exactly what I ordered and had to call and ask if there was a mistake and I got a non C bcg. But Chris told me they are very faint and look at it under good lighting and you will see it. again as it is marked. Had to lay a flashlight down along it and shadow it some, it's there. I felt more than a little stupid. 
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Posted: 10/19/2018 4:05:37 PM EDT
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Thanks Tig. I ordered from him based upon your recommendation. I wasn't sure which was included. After re-reading everything ... I think I'll be getting the "C" marked. He will take care of you. Always solid/dependable. If ever an issue, reach out, he WILL right things. And, unless specifically asking for a "blem"( which really isn't), yours will be C marked. |
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Posted: 10/19/2018 8:45:50 PM EDT
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I've own a few colt carriers. Some of them have very shallow markings or even missing markings.
I think Colt just does whatever the heck they feel like. I seen their lowers markings very shallow or even sometimes faded like it's uneven. |
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Posted: 10/20/2018 8:46:21 AM EDT
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Colt has confirmed a few times that their bolt carriers will no longer be "C" marked. They went through a period where they had both available causing confusion but it looks like the "C" inventory is finally gone.
Makes it harder to resell but that's about the only difference. https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?196861-Unmarked-quot-Colt-quot-Bolt-Carrier-Assembly/page4 |
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Posted: 10/20/2018 9:21:15 AM EDT
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My last carrier marking was very faint. Like hold it on angle under florescent light struggling to see it faint. Works as intended...
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Posted: 10/20/2018 12:09:04 PM EDT
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never heard of them, link please as I'd pick one up at that price Eta: @myhatinthering
A couple years ago I found them by chance on Arms List while looking for Stripped Colt uppers. The upper/BCG deal is still the best around. |
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Posted: 10/20/2018 12:29:12 PM EDT
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Ahh, I miss the days when SA was known to but a few here. Now everything is OOS.
A couple years ago I found them by chance on Arms List while looking for Stripped Colt uppers. The upper/BCG deal is still the best around. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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never heard of them, link please as I'd pick one up at that price Eta: @myhatinthering
A couple years ago I found them by chance on Arms List while looking for Stripped Colt uppers. The upper/BCG deal is still the best around. 
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Posted: 10/20/2018 1:23:26 PM EDT
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Quote Historythank you sir!!!!
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Posted: 10/20/2018 1:26:37 PM EDT
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thank you sir!!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/21/2018 12:36:24 AM EDT
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I actually really like the CAGE code uppers, tbh.
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Posted: 10/21/2018 6:16:49 PM EDT
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Colt FSB are not F marked anymore ether.
Bought a new Colt upper from Midwayusa for a new build, the upper has the same cage code as the barrel with a square forge mark. The carrier does not have a c stamp but the bolt does say mpc and it does have the dot of white paint. As I have mentioned the FSB is not F marked ether. 
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Posted: 10/21/2018 6:53:14 PM EDT
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Colt FSB are not F marked anymore ether. Bought a new Colt upper from Midwayusa for a new build, the upper has the same cage code as the barrel with a square forge mark. The carrier does not have a c stamp but the bolt does say mpc and it does have the dot of white paint. As I have mentioned the FSB is not F marked ether. |
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Posted: 10/21/2018 10:33:06 PM EDT
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Yeah, that cat is out of the bag. |
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Posted: 10/21/2018 10:37:16 PM EDT
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Someone pulled that cat out huh?... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, that cat is out of the bag.
I just hate seeing guys price raped over Colt things. |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 3:50:33 PM EDT
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Colt viewed that as a time saver, as all fsbs are the same height now. |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 4:25:29 PM EDT
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Some may have helped more than others....
I just hate seeing guys price raped over Colt things. I've yet to wear out a barrel, but have seen cracked bolts before (not BCM or Colt ... hobby brands like ArmaLite, etc). |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 4:58:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I ended up ordering four of the Colt BCG / CH combos from SA.
Damn nice guy to deal with, huh? |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 5:21:05 PM EDT
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Absolutely!
I'm sure we'll get to know each other better
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Posted: 10/22/2018 5:34:17 PM EDT
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Absolutely! I'm sure we'll get to know each other better Now, if we can just get him to up his inventory!! 
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Posted: 10/24/2018 8:03:16 PM EDT
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So...after reading the thread and Googling, it appears the final verdict on this is all new BCG's from Colt will no longer have a "C" on the carrier, but the bolt will still be marked with an "MPC", correct?
I just purchased a new 2018 "property" marked SOCOM rifle from Colt and the carrier is not marked and the bolt is faintly marked "MP". I can't find the "C" after the MP anywhere. Anyone else have this? Any chance Colt is subbing some of this out? I am not sure if it matters, but for the collector, maybe its better to swap it out with a "C" and "MPC" marked BCG? I would think a shooter could care less. Thanks! |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:23:53 PM EDT
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I've never seen a verified colt Bolt that wasn't MPC marked.
However, Colt is notorious for mis-marking or not marking something at all. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:26:41 PM EDT
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So...after reading the thread and Googling, it appears the final verdict on this is all new BCG's from Colt will no longer have a "C" on the carrier, but the bolt will still be marked with an "MPC", correct? I just purchased a new 2018 "property" marked SOCOM rifle from Colt and the carrier is not marked and the bolt is faintly marked "MP". I can't find the "C" after the MP anywhere. Anyone else have this? Any chance Colt is subbing some of this out? I am not sure if it matters, but for the collector, maybe its better to swap it out with a "C" and "MPC" marked BCG? I would think a shooter could care less. Thanks! But, it is Colt, and consistency is not their main objective. |
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Posted: 10/26/2018 4:49:28 AM EDT
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Glad to hear it. Now, if we can just get him to up his inventory!!
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Posted: 10/26/2018 5:45:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd be happy with getting the invoice for the email order I sent him over a week ago... I think he forgot about me.
That's not like him. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 3:40:13 PM EDT
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Those Colt bcgs (no C carriers) are on sale for $85 now.
HRT barrels at $250. Damn! SAC |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 3:44:33 PM EDT
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Those Colt bcgs (no C carriers) are on sale for $85 now.
HRT barrels at $250. Damn! SAC |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 3:57:19 PM EDT
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Shark will have to buy you a site sponsor vendor tag soon Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Those Colt bcgs (no C carriers) are on sale for $85 now.
HRT barrels at $250. Damn! SAC
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Posted: 10/31/2018 4:23:42 PM EDT
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As long as he keeps inventory and non rapey pricing, I'm gtg. 
Still waiting for the colt H2 to get back in stock any day now. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 4:26:19 PM EDT
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The inventory part seems to be the problem every time I want something.
Still waiting for the colt H2 to get back in stock any day now.
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Posted: 11/4/2018 11:59:03 AM EDT
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Bolts should be marked MPC. This would be a first for me. But, it is Colt, and consistency is not their main objective. I will try to put up a picture. I just went ahead and bought a marked BCG from Shark, but it is a bit odd the marking is not there. Brand new unopened Colt box too...weird. |
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Posted: 11/4/2018 12:13:36 PM EDT
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Hmmm...I purchased a SOCOM from Grabagun and there is not "C" on the carrier (as expected), but the bolt is only "MP" marked. I cant see any sort of "C" marking at all. I will try to put up a picture. I just went ahead and bought a marked BCG from Shark, but it is a bit odd the marking is not there. Brand new unopened Colt box too...weird. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bolts should be marked MPC. This would be a first for me. But, it is Colt, and consistency is not their main objective. I will try to put up a picture. I just went ahead and bought a marked BCG from Shark, but it is a bit odd the marking is not there. Brand new unopened Colt box too...weird. 
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Posted: 11/4/2018 12:27:35 PM EDT
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If you haven’t figured it out already... Colt is overrated.
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Posted: 11/4/2018 12:46:44 PM EDT
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If you haven’t figured it out already... Colt is overrated. |
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Posted: 11/4/2018 1:17:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYep. Figured that out from the other thread. I honestly could care less about the carrier, but I would have preferred the bolt be Colt. With that said...it sounds like Colt subs out stuff all the time, so I am not sure it matters as long as its built to spec.
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Posted: 11/4/2018 3:56:35 PM EDT
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Colt is not subing parts out
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Posted: 11/4/2018 3:58:15 PM EDT
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Colt is not subing parts out |
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Posted: 11/4/2018 4:00:46 PM EDT
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If you haven’t figured it out already... Colt is overrated. Are you saying that isn't true? |
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Posted: 11/4/2018 4:02:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Overrated how? Pretty much everyone looks at them like a work truck. They aren't always pretty, but they do what they are supposed to do. Are you saying that isn't true? |
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Posted: 11/4/2018 4:12:40 PM EDT
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Colt is not subing parts out |
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Posted: 11/4/2018 5:17:32 PM EDT
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Well, expect to see the value of “C” marked stuff increase.
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Posted: 11/4/2018 5:38:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote History |
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Posted: 11/4/2018 5:50:41 PM EDT
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Colt is not subing parts out Colt’s allegedly discontinued second-shift operations of bolts and bolt carriers and laid off about 54 workers." Sure looks that way.
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Posted: 11/4/2018 7:25:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's probably a "My PSA or poverty pony is just as good as". |
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Posted: 11/4/2018 8:02:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My PSA rifles ARE "just as good as" my Colts. *shrugs* |
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Posted: 11/4/2018 8:27:22 PM EDT
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I'm happy for you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: My PSA rifles ARE "just as good as" my Colts. *shrugs*
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Posted: 11/4/2018 10:16:20 PM EDT
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The PSA with FN CHF barrels and Tool Craft BCGs run well for Henderson Defense.
It is important to note PSA produces a variety of products. I wouldn't expect their "Freedom" line to perform as well as has been reported for the FN CHF uppers. Also, the FN barrels and Tool Craft BCG are undisputed "quality" products. It is PSA's upper assembly QC and lower parts kit component quality that most often gets called into question. |
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Posted: 11/4/2018 10:24:47 PM EDT
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The PSA with FN CHF barrels and Tool Craft BCGs run well for Henderson Defense. It is important to note PSA produces a variety of products. I wouldn't expect their "Freedom" line to perform as well as has been reported for the FN CHF uppers. Also, the FN barrels and Tool Craft BCG are undisputed "quality" products. It is PSA's upper assembly QC and lower parts kit component quality that most often gets called into question. PSA will no longer confirm/deny that their Premium carriers are TC sourced. That being said, I bought another Premium 2 weeks ago, and the quality is excellent. |
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