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Posted: 1/25/2024 9:17:45 PM EDT
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I was hoping this post could get a little more traction. I bought one new then and would also be interested in a little more information on the transitional AR’s of them back in the day. From what I gather the past few years they are quite collectible. Mine is 319xxx and can give a date, I ordered it for my 21 first birthday in late July 1985 that came in August. I Still have the receipt to know exactly the time then. When it was manufactured? Maybe a month or Two before it was shipped to my local gun shop. Mix of A1 and A2 parts. A1 upper with early port door and forward Teardrop assist. Glossy black furniture, and a and a peel washer behind the new a2 flash hider Hope that helps you some on info. Any other questions you may have just ask. |
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Quoted: I was hoping this post could get a little more traction. Maybe it's just TLDR I originally posted it the Retro forum where I think it belongs, but one of the Mods moved it here to the A2 forum almost immediately, before I even got all the info up. Thanks for your input, it confirms the info of other guns in the same serial number range. I assume your rifle has a Delta Ring and not a flat slip Ring? |
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Quoted: So did I. Maybe it's just TLDR I originally posted it the Retro forum where I think it belongs, but one of the Mods moved it here to the A2 forum almost immediately, before I even got all the info up. Thanks for your input, it confirms the info of other guns in the same serial number range. I assume your rifle has a Delta Ring and not a flat slip Ring? Yes it has the delta ring |
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A little different, don't know if it applies, but... AR15 A2 HBAR Sporter Serial SP2304xx (so earlier than the Sporter 2s above?) HBAR, 1/7 A2 furniture standard slickside lower Delta ring A2 upper, A2 rear sight, small button forward assist, large pad ejection port cover I don't have the box, and don't know when it was purchased, sorry...I'd guess later 80s? It's complete, with bayonet lug. |
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Thanks for responding. Interesting that the HBAR serial number range is below the Sporter IIs. Maybe Colt blocked off serial number ranges. The fact that your rifle has a small button forward assist and a bayonet lug would most likely date it to the late 80s like you said. |
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Quoted: A little different, don't know if it applies, but... AR15 A2 HBAR Sporter Serial SP2304xx (so earlier than the Sporter 2s above?) HBAR, 1/7 A2 furniture standard slickside lower Delta ring A2 upper, A2 rear sight, small button forward assist, large pad ejection port cover I don't have the box, and don't know when it was purchased, sorry...I'd guess later 80s? It's complete, with bayonet lug. I recently picked a Green Label R6600 AR15A2 HBAR Sporter also. My first factory made AR (outside Govt service)! All my others starting in 87' I've built. SP2241xx HBAR, 20" C MP 1/7, FSB w/bayonet lug, A2 flash hinder A2 funiture Slickside lower Delta Ring A2 upper, A2 rear sight, Large D Forward Assist Thinking mine is from 87-88'. Sling that came with it not USGI (I corrected that) but cleaning kit in buttstock. Two Colt black follower 20 rd mags. No box or manual. C marked Bolt carrier shaved down. No sear block in lower. Large screwed front pivot pin. R6600s made 86-89'. The R6600K model came with the Colt .22LR conversion. In 1990 the Blue Labels came out. Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Quoted: I recently picked a Green Label R6600 AR15A2 HBAR Sporter also. My first factory made AR (outside Govt service)! All my others starting in 87' I've built. SP2241xx HBAR, 20" 1/7, FSB w/bayonet lug A2 funiture Slickside lower Delta Ring A2 upper, A2 rear sight, Large D Forward Assist Thinking mine is from 87-88'. Sling that came with it not USGI (I corrected that) but cleaning kit in buttstock. Two Colt black follower 20 rd mags. No box or manual. Bolt carrier shaved down. No sear block in lower. Large screwed front pivot pin. R6600s made 86-89'. The R6600K model came with the Colt .22LR conversion. In 1990 the Blue Labels came out. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_0136_jpeg-3121945.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_2663_jpeg-3121946.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_2661_jpeg-3121947.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_2565_jpeg-3121948.JPG Seeing the serial number and that mine has the small button, that probably tracks...IIRC the large button/D-shaped buttons were earlier in the evolution and later they went to the smaller button forward assist. My dad changed the sling on his and put the "jungle" sling kit on it (had a piece of bent wire that went around the front sight post that let you mount the sling to that). I don't know what factory mags it came with originally, probably the 20s. My dad also has a factory Colt scope on the handle...don't know if it's a 3x or 4x though. Thanks! |
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Quoted: Here's one I picked up years ago. https://i.imgur.com/fZczb4I.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/Y9S0qYl.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/rsAdmZy.jpeg Do you think that port door is original? Maybe it was replaced at some point? I doubt it as the gun looks very original and everything else fits with what I have observed. |
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Just came across 344213 on Gunbroker. Its interesting for 2 reasons. 1) It's the lowest serial number Target sight (A2) upper I have seen. 2) It has a Colt Archive letter stating the date of Manufacture was 11/1987 Thats the first date I have seen other than the 1994 guns and 1984/1985. Its also the second Rifle I have observed with an A2 upper and a Big D forward assist around that serial number range. |
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I have a GS prefix, at the time you could find exactly jack and s--t about the GS prefix, dating it, or anything else. No bayo lug, but had the flash hider, no blocks of any type, 1/2 moon carrier, came with a .22 Colt conversion, ''Colt armored'' scope and carry handle mount and a Colt cheekpiece. 1/7 twist, still have it to this day. Think I bought it in 93 or 94 just before the ban went into effect. They [''preban'' AR's] doubled in price as soon as it passed. |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/220444/1000005381_jpg-3194441.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/220444/1000005380_jpg-3194442.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/220444/1000005379_jpg-3194443.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/220444/1000005382_jpg-3194444.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/220444/1000005383_jpg-3194445.JPG I didn't think those were changed till later on in the serial number run. Must be like the slip rings, they just show up in a random place. |
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Quoted: This Sporter II showed up on Gunbroker recently. Serial number 354,485 Its interesting because it's the second one on my list that has a c7 upper and an A2 Forward Assist within a couple of hundred serial numbers of each other. The other is 354,298 It also seems very original, including the green label box. These are very late in the Serial number run that ended at 360,000 and After A2 target sight uppers had started to be used. Somebody probably found a bin of C7 uppers and decided to use them up with the existing A2 Forward assists instead of the Big Ds, which had probably run out by that time. https://i.postimg.cc/pLB5Krm1/E20-B7-D03-C4-B7-4-C98-A585-C8-AE245-FC0-D2.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/7PpzkpvX/BB3-E1017-CFEF-4392-90-BE-36987-CEB9-B3-D.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/WpDZxsyh/39-F00-BA4-8826-4-C89-85-A8-4-B66211-F18-B1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/0yvJ6Dyw/49-BB72-A5-B801-45-F2-9-B5-A-BC07-E93-CDE93.jpg Not a C7 upper but older A1. Canadians hadn’t adopted the C7 rifle at this time. Colt continued to use up older A1 uppers but if they had A2 round handguards called them A2 rifles |
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Quoted: I remember lusting after the "new" A2 big time. Still have this magazine. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/SWAT_magazine-288437.jpg Wish I could read the serial number off that Rifle. I suspect it's one of the first Sporter IIs. |
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Quoted: Not a C7 upper but older A1. Canadians hadn't adopted the C7 rifle at this time. Colt continued to use up older A1 uppers but if they had A2 round handguards called them A2 rifles Colt may even have labeled them "A2 uppers with field sights" at one point. I use the incorrect term "C7" for the sake of brevity. |
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Quoted: The Rifle I thought we were talking about, 354,485, does in fact have a brass deflector and A1 (field) sights. https://i.postimg.cc/WpDZxsyh/39-F00-BA4-8826-4-C89-85-A8-4-B66211-F18-B1.jpg Then I stand corrected. CD |
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Thank you Bullet Cooker for adding those. I have been keeping a spreadsheet on Sporter II serial numbers as I come across them. I just copied and pasted it into the original post. Unfortunately it flipped things chronologically from oldest to newest to newest to oldest and I don't know how to fix that. I did add notes the places in the serial number list where I observed chronological changes, which I find especially fascinating. These include: A1 Uppers Flat Slip Rings Delta Rings Big D Forward Assists Large Pad Dust Covers C7 Uppers C7 or A2 Uppers with Large Round Forward Assists |
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