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Posted: 1/13/2022 8:04:37 AM EDT
I bought this one back in September but it took a while to get the special license. I also grouped three rifle on the same license as the local regulations allow it, which took more time. So I only brought it home two weeks ago. It’s an export M16 A1 that served in Israel where it was likely modified as a Carbine.
It was sold as a former full auto transformed into semi auto. However it appears that the semi auto conversion was minimal : removal of the full auto sear, semi auto hammer and safety lever. The bolt carrier is a full auto model. So I’m considering bringing it back to full auto at some stage. Cost was $ 1500, which is actually cheaper than most semi AR-15 A2 here.  Went straight to the 50 m indoor range   Whereas accuracy was good (I only gave a few clicks to the front sight to raise the POI), it didn’t function well with several failures to extract and double feeds. So I decided to get out of my lazy ways and give it a thorough check clean and lube. It had a strange long buffer tube and a crappy stock. I took it completely apart and inspected it, gave it a good cleaning and lubing including the gas tube which was surprisingly clean, and replaced the buffer tube and stock.             So it’s a bit of a mismatched mutt, lower and upper have different colours (lower black, maybe repainted, upper anodised grey), with various parts slapped on it, but I like it. And it’ll fit well with the rest of the family M16 A1  AR-15 XM177E2  M16 A2  ArmaLite AR10 
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Posted: 1/13/2022 8:06:04 AM EDT
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After replacing the buffer, spring and tube and cleaning / lubing it properly, it ran like a champ, 100 rds without a single hiccup
50 m indoor range     I also bought four second hand Israeli 10 rds mags, they ran flawlessly too 
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Posted: 1/13/2022 8:37:15 AM EDT
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Beautiful. Another Colt out of Israel. Thank you for sharing it, truly a gorgeous carbine with a great history. I think your lower is anodized, it’s just darker than usual.
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Posted: 1/13/2022 9:08:33 AM EDT
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Quoted: And it’ll fit well with the rest of the family You sir, have a beautiful family |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 9:35:01 AM EDT
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Amazing! I am drooling over them.
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Posted: 1/13/2022 9:45:08 AM EDT
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Very impressive!
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Posted: 1/13/2022 9:47:11 AM EDT
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What’s the process to convert it back to full auto?
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Posted: 1/13/2022 10:01:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s the process to convert it back to full auto? Technically it just needs a FA hammer, thumb safety and sear. Legally I’d then have to ask for a full auto permit to the bureau of arms for it |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 10:05:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s the process to convert it back to full auto? full auto fcg and sear by the looks of it, looks like the sear was removed and the fcg was shaved to function as semi only. This can be done in 5 minutes with a dremel or the likes.... |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 1:04:20 PM EDT
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That's beautiful. Even with the typical half assed Colt markings:
 Attached FileI'd do a dance to own that. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 1:17:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Technically it just needs a FA hammer, thumb safety and sear. Legally I’d then have to ask for a full auto permit to the bureau of arms for it From the photo, it looks like someone drilled out the sear hole, because it looks too large for the correct sear pin to fit. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 1:25:11 PM EDT
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Very Cool! I had a transferable M16 A1 Carbine in the mid 90s. Looked just like that. Foolishly sold it. I hate to think what it would be worth now.
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Posted: 1/13/2022 2:56:26 PM EDT
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Where do you live? And what’s the story on the a2
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Posted: 1/13/2022 5:49:36 PM EDT
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I hate you!
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Posted: 1/13/2022 9:11:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Very Cool! I had a transferable M16 A1 Carbine in the mid 90s. Looked just like that. Foolishly sold it. I hate to think what it would be worth now. About $35k |
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Posted: 1/16/2022 7:37:27 PM EDT
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Love that 14.5" chrome-lined lightweight barrel, whether 1/12 or 1/7.
Wish they were still being made, not everybody feels the need to be able to mount an M203. |
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Posted: 1/16/2022 9:38:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where do you live? And what’s the story on the a2 Converted MGs are legal in a number of European countries. I am on a discord with a French shooter who has a M16A1, though recent law changes are pretty much killing gun ownership. |
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Posted: 1/17/2022 2:17:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Love that 14.5" chrome-lined lightweight barrel, whether 1/12 or 1/7. Wish they were still being made, not everybody feels the need to be able to mount an M203. They are still being made |
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Posted: 1/17/2022 2:18:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Converted MGs are legal in a number of European countries. I am on a discord with a French shooter who has a M16A1, though recent law changes are pretty much killing gun ownership. I know they are. If I remember right I was thinking he was in Poland. |
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Posted: 1/17/2022 4:48:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's beautiful. Even with the typical half assed Colt markings: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/Screenshot_20220113-110225_Samsung_Inter-2238974.JPG I'd do a dance to own that. Yeah, Olt Industries has never been good about replacing roll dies in a timely fashion. Why did the Israelis make 10 round magazines? Easier to carry around strapped to their backs? |
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Posted: 1/17/2022 8:22:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know they are. If I remember right I was thinking he was in Poland. Says his counrty right next to to his user name, even has a flag. Switzerland. |
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Posted: 1/17/2022 9:38:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Says his counrty right next to to his user name, even has a flag. Switzerland. For me it says che |
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Posted: 1/17/2022 9:54:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For me it says che Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Says his counrty right next to to his user name, even has a flag. Switzerland. For me it says che CHE is the three-letter country abbreviation for Switzerland.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/17/2022 10:56:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: CHE is the three-letter country abbreviation for Switzerland. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/images_jpeg_jpg-2244331.JPG O really lol. I didn’t know that |
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Posted: 1/17/2022 11:05:25 PM EDT
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Nvrmnd.
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Posted: 1/18/2022 2:58:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nvrmnd. I was being serious. I figured their abbreviation would have been something like Swt. Cool collection though. |
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Posted: 1/18/2022 4:27:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2022 8:14:26 AM EDT
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Another very nice carbine adding to your already impressive family. As much as I love it, it can't compete with your original XM177E2.
That said, we all do envy you very much. Greetings from Germany! |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 11:12:31 AM EDT
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Could the cheap stock that was on it be an Olymipc Arms retractable stock? I have only seen a few pictures, but they look similar.
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Posted: 1/24/2022 11:28:23 AM EDT
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Your gun has a serial number about 8000 earlier than mine…
 
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Posted: 1/24/2022 11:38:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could the cheap stock that was on it be an Olymipc Arms retractable stock? I have only seen a few pictures, but they look similar. Appears to be THIS, which is not as described. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 3:37:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could the cheap stock that was on it be an Olymipc Arms retractable stock? I have only seen a few pictures, but they look similar. Could be, The carbines used by the Israeli where homemade conversion from M16a1 rifles and they probably used whatever stocks they could find.. The same non Colt stock can be found on the carbines imported here in Italy https://nuovajager.it/prodotto/colt-m16a1-i-d-f-menusar-cal-556-mm-ca00070/ |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 3:55:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could be, The carbines used by the Israeli where homemade conversion from M16a1 rifles and they probably used whatever stocks they could find.. The same non Colt stock can be found on the carbines imported here in Italy https://nuovajager.it/prodotto/colt-m16a1-i-d-f-menusar-cal-556-mm-ca00070/ Not the same stock body as at Apex / in the OP here. There are several copies though, for sure. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 12:12:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From the photo, it looks like someone drilled out the sear hole, because it looks too large for the correct sear pin to fit. yep, looks a bit "egged" out also |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:07:03 PM EDT
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Awesome OP!
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Posted: 1/25/2022 11:12:04 PM EDT
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Wow! Great find OP, and very cool collection; those are all great rifles. A little background on the AR-10? Is it one of the Sudan/Portugal rifles?
I find it very interesting the differences in firearms laws between nations. |
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