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Posted: 4/27/2023 9:52:51 AM EDT
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Are you torquing it down properly?
Like 15-25 ft lbs? |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 9:56:21 AM EDT
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I ignore the whole 2 drop thing. Apply liberally and let it drip off. When I go back to remove I call over 4 of my cornbread fed friends.
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Posted: 4/27/2023 12:04:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I ignore the whole 2 drop thing. Apply liberally and let it drip off. When I go back to remove I call over 4 of my cornbread fed friends. THIS. Slather it on. Its a rifle. Not the space shuttle. |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 2:39:56 PM EDT
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Whoa, I've never used more than one drop. How old is the bottle you're using? Thought I read somewhere you're supposed to leave it in the box for storage as it is weakened by light.
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Posted: 4/27/2023 2:42:32 PM EDT
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How much torque are you applying? Threaded fasteners still need to be torqued.
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Posted: 4/27/2023 3:03:50 PM EDT
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Quoted: Whoa, I've never used more than one drop. How old is the bottle you're using? Thought I read somewhere you're supposed to leave it in the box for storage as it is weakened by light. Quoted: How much torque are you applying? Threaded fasteners still need to be torqued. All of this^^^^^. Even w/o Rocksett if it's torqued properly removal "by hand" should be impossible. |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 3:12:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/27/2023 6:10:36 PM EDT
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Thanks to all the replies so far. The bottle is about 2 years old and lives in my temp controlled safe, so it's in the dark 99.9%.
I am not torquing the device on hard. It snugs up nicely with one thin shim to just hand tight for proper alignment (suppressor attachment). |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 6:19:59 PM EDT
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I used carb cleaner on the muzzle device and threads first. Then put some on the threads and thread device on and off a bit to spread the rocksett around. Then torque muzzle device. Then use a heat gun to cure the rocksett. I have never had a device come off using this method, but did in the past which led to this method…
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Posted: 4/27/2023 7:15:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks to all the replies so far. The bottle is about 2 years old and lives in my temp controlled safe, so it's in the dark 99.9%. I am not torquing the device on hard. It snugs up nicely with one thin shim to just hand tight for proper alignment (suppressor attachment). I think you are going to need to tighten it with a wrench. Add another shim. |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 7:21:59 PM EDT
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You need to put a wrench on it and crank that sucker down. Hand tightening is just not enough.
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Posted: 4/27/2023 7:29:27 PM EDT
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Quoted: I think you are going to need to tighten it with a wrench. Add another shim. Quoted: You need to put a wrench on it and crank that sucker down. Hand tightening is just not enough. This. What suppressor mount? What are the mfgr's recommended torque specs? |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 7:48:33 PM EDT
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Muzzle devices need to be torqued 15-25 ft-lbs.
Your muzzle device should have a torque spec on the packaging or on the manufacturers website. |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 9:44:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks to all the replies so far. The bottle is about 2 years old and lives in my temp controlled safe, so it's in the dark 99.9%. I am not torquing the device on hard. It snugs up nicely with one thin shim to just hand tight for proper alignment (suppressor attachment). Hand tight isn’t going to cut it my man…you need torque … |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 10:27:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hand tight isn’t going to cut it my man…you need torque … All the torques |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 10:37:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks to all the replies so far. The bottle is about 2 years old and lives in my temp controlled safe, so it's in the dark 99.9%. I am not torquing the device on hard. It snugs up nicely with one thin shim to just hand tight for proper alignment (suppressor attachment). You need more torque. Rocksett isn’t JB Weld. |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 11:10:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI much prefer Hot Lock to Rocksett. One word of caution, some Amazon buyers have gotten bad bottles, like where someone used what they needed and then returned it. Fantastic product, in my experience, never had an issue and used it on dozens of builds. Plus it’s easy to break loose if you need to. |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 11:49:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I much prefer Hot Lock to Rocksett. One word of caution, some Amazon buyers have gotten bad bottles, like where someone used what they needed and then returned it. Fantastic product, in my experience, never had an issue and used it on dozens of builds. Plus it’s easy to break loose if you need to. Quote HistoryQuoted: I much prefer Hot Lock to Rocksett. One word of caution, some Amazon buyers have gotten bad bottles, like where someone used what they needed and then returned it. Fantastic product, in my experience, never had an issue and used it on dozens of builds. Plus it’s easy to break loose if you need to. OP doesn’t seem to be having that problem.  |
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Posted: 5/5/2023 1:30:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I ignore the whole 2 drop thing. Apply liberally and let it drip off. When I go back to remove I call over 4 of my cornbread fed friends. Adding too much Rocksett can compromise its strength. If it's more than a thin film, the outside can harden while the inside stays liquid (think candy coating). Then when you twist on it, the more liquid center yields easily and the device comes off. Rocksett calls out for sparing applications in their instructions, and I've seen it first hand myself. Odds are the Rocksett is old and expired. If it's cloudy or more thick it may have gone bad. Heat kills it, so keeping it cool (basements and such) gives you longer life, but still expect a 1 year shelf life on it. It's holding power isn't insane though, so you still will want to give it a good 15-25 ft/lbs of torque to get it to stay put (with proper thread prep first). |
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Posted: 5/5/2023 7:08:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Adding too much Rocksett can compromise its strength. If it's more than a thin film, the outside can harden while the inside stays liquid (think candy coating). Then when you twist on it, the more liquid center yields easily and the device comes off. Rocksett calls out for sparing applications in their instructions, and I've seen it first hand myself. Odds are the Rocksett is old and expired. If it's cloudy or more thick it may have gone bad. Heat kills it, so keeping it cool (basements and such) gives you longer life, but still expect a 1 year shelf life on it. It's holding power isn't insane though, so you still will want to give it a good 15-25 ft/lbs of torque to get it to stay put (with proper thread prep first). |
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Posted: 5/5/2023 7:30:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP doesn’t seem to be having that problem. |
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Posted: 5/5/2023 8:02:46 PM EDT
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@NewGunGuy3
Did you get it figured out? |
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Posted: 5/6/2023 5:24:09 AM EDT
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Clean threads to bare metal. If you have already used rockset, boiling water to remove its residue. Only then acetone.
Fresh Rockset covering about 1/4 inch of the threads. As you screw the device on, the fluid will fill end to end. 15 lbs max tq. One of the main causes of loss of accuracy is an over torqued muzzle device. Let the new bottle of rockset do the work, not an over-torque. The people who promote over torque don't own a muzzle gauge or they would see the error in their ways. |
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Posted: 5/6/2023 3:04:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I much prefer Hot Lock to Rocksett. I'm listening |
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Posted: 5/6/2023 4:56:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Clean threads to bare metal. If you have already used rockset, boiling water to remove its residue. Only then acetone. Fresh Rockset covering about 1/4 inch of the threads. As you screw the device on, the fluid will fill end to end. 15 lbs max tq. One of the main causes of loss of accuracy is an over torqued muzzle device. Let the new bottle of rockset do the work, not an over-torque. The people who promote over torque don't own a muzzle gauge or they would see the error in their ways. Truth /\ /\ |
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Posted: 5/8/2023 8:42:03 PM EDT
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Have had good luck using an old bottle of Rocksett. It separates out, so you need to shake the hell out of it, even with a brand new bottle.
If you get it mixed back up, it seems to work pretty well. Removing it- soak in a bucket of water for a day, nothing to it after that. |
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Posted: 5/8/2023 8:54:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Clean threads to bare metal. If you have already used rockset, boiling water to remove its residue. Only then acetone. Fresh Rockset covering about 1/4 inch of the threads. As you screw the device on, the fluid will fill end to end. 15 lbs max tq. One of the main causes of loss of accuracy is an over torqued muzzle device. Let the new bottle of rockset do the work, not an over-torque. The people who promote over torque don't own a muzzle gauge or they would see the error in their ways. Doesn't sound like OP used any...... .....and I haven't seen anyone saying to "over torque" anything. |
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