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Posted: 2/15/2021 9:55:00 PM EDT
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Have you tried a snap on brass deflector? The first few years that I was in the army the guys that were left handed used them. They were issued to anyone that wanted them. They have a ball detent that snaps into the hole in the charging handle at the top and the bottom of it is held in place by the top of the upper receiver. I’m right handed, but the guys that were lefties liked them. I found the NSN number but I can’t find any for sale right now. If you could find one it would allow you to keep your A1 authentic. The NSN number is 1005-01-171-4778.
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Posted: 2/15/2021 10:05:52 PM EDT
[#2]
Good luck finding any uppers in stock anywhere. EE has them time to time an sign up for Brownells notification when in stock.
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/upper-receivers/ar-15-c7-stripped-upper-receiver-prod124803.aspx |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 11:01:30 PM EDT
[#3]
Try KAK
https://www.kakindustry.com/ar-15-parts/upper-parts/kak-m16-a1-c7-upper-receiver |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 11:01:34 PM EDT
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TNTE Sales. Be prepared to wait. I've bought from them in the past, with good service but I've read thread that since covid and the panic they're behind and not good at communicating. YMMV.
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Posted: 2/15/2021 11:19:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you tried a snap on brass deflector? The first few years that I was in the army the guys that were left handed used them. They were issued to anyone that wanted them. They have a ball detent that snaps into the hole in the charging handle at the top and the bottom of it is held in place by the top of the upper receiver. I'm right handed, but the guys that were lefties liked them. I found the NSN number but I can't find any for sale right now. If you could find one it would allow you to keep your A1 authentic. The NSN number is 1005-01-171-4778. https://www.ebay.com/itm/22-conversion-kit-M261-shell-deflector-USGI-NSN-1005-01-171-4778-for-A1-A2-/203264228334?autorefresh=true John Masen Co. sells a USGI style deflector. https://www.johnmasen.com/AR15-A1-Shell-Deflector-p/1593-1.htm |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:38:13 AM EDT
[#6]
iirc Retro Rifles have grey C7 in stock.
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Posted: 2/16/2021 5:29:24 AM EDT
[#7]
Per previous comment, retro rifles appears to still have at least a few:
https://retrorifles.com/c7-c8-m16a1e1-upper-receiver/ |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 2:47:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: I’m looking for a C7 upper to start my first retro build. I know it’s not 100% authentic, but I’m left handed and want to actually shoot it. I had an M16A1 upper that were surplused around 10 years ago, and brass hit me in the forehead. I can’t find any C7 uppers anywhere. These used to be so common, now impossible to find. Check your email. |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 11:27:20 PM EDT
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I sent you one back. Very interested.
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Posted: 2/16/2021 11:33:17 PM EDT
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I had trouble finding them in stock during good times. Posting in the EE paid off for me...
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Posted: 2/17/2021 11:49:03 PM EDT
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Clip on deflectors....ha! Our lefties got an eye patch and hoped for the best.
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Posted: 2/18/2021 8:13:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Per previous comment, retro rifles appears to still have at least a few: https://retrorifles.com/c7-c8-m16a1e1-upper-receiver/ Retro Rifles does not have a good rep around these parts. See https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Retro-Rifles-Reputation/123-759777/ Also, a recent thread suggested that there seems to be a batch of C7's floating around with some issues. See https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Luth-AR-Horrible-Quality-C7-Upper/123-759399/ |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 9:20:20 AM EDT
[#13]
Check the EE
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Posted: 4/9/2021 2:01:41 PM EDT
[#14]
I know the last C7 I ordered from Brownells was backordered, and that was late spring last year and it's still not been back in stock.
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Posted: 4/28/2021 12:22:10 PM EDT
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Anyone happen to have any luck finding C7s?
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Posted: 5/1/2021 10:27:36 PM EDT
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Delta team tactical.. has them in stock although the company does have some sketchy reviews, I have had good dealings with them.
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Posted: 5/1/2021 10:34:40 PM EDT
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I got an email from Delta Team Tactical this morning advertising C7 uppers in stock.
I think GD hates them but the few times I've ordered from them l haven't had a problem. My nephew turned them onto me and he's never had a problem. So like always, you lays your money down, you takes your chances. |
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Posted: 5/2/2021 12:44:19 AM EDT
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There is a simple mod to the bolt that you can do that prevents this. I'll try and find the pic. It's a simple mod to the extractor.
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Posted: 5/2/2021 12:52:31 AM EDT
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Disassemble the bolt, cut 2 coils off the ejector spring (to start) re-assemble and shoot. The idea is to get the spent casings to eject at the 1 to 2 o'clock position. If 2 coils doesn't do it, repeat the procedure until it does.
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Posted: 5/6/2021 4:44:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: TNTE Sales. Be prepared to wait. I've bought from them in the past, with good service but I've read thread that since covid and the panic they're behind and not good at communicating. YMMV. Yea be prepared to wait forever. Never got it and was denied a refund. Could not charge back because it has bee so long. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 7:51:53 PM EDT
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I may have an opportunity on one soon, I usually get these stripped but I don't what condition this one will be in. May have an M4 profile barrel or may just be the receiver. If anyone is still interested....
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Posted: 5/9/2021 9:27:46 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I may have an opportunity on one soon, I usually get these stripped but I don't what condition this one will be in. May have an M4 profile barrel or may just be the receiver. If anyone is still interested.... I'd definitely be interested. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 11:11:43 PM EDT
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I'll hit you up here if / when I get it....
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Posted: 5/11/2021 9:49:00 PM EDT
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https://www.gunbroker.com/item/900746797
G.B. has a few |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 11:57:06 PM EDT
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A little bird told me Some DK forging uppers will be up soon .
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Posted: 5/12/2021 11:52:25 AM EDT
[#26]
And behold, a plethora of C7 uppers!
What’s the story behind the C7 design? Was it an interim design before the A2 sights if the market? Or was it a fade back to the original A1 sights to keep GIs from fidgeting with it? |
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Posted: 5/12/2021 2:29:35 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And behold, a plethora of C7 uppers! What’s the story behind the C7 design? Was it an interim design before the A2 sights if the market? Or was it a fade back to the original A1 sights to keep GIs from fidgeting with it? Neither, the Marine Corps is who adopted the M16A2, the army in the meantime kept using M16A1’s but upgraded to the M16A1E1 which featured a shell deflector. Eventually the Army adopted the A2, the DK uppers were made by Dixie Tool for I’m guessing is reserve and NG units, as they were procured in the early to mid 90’s. William |
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Posted: 5/12/2021 2:53:22 PM EDT
[#28]
For anyone who cares, I just bought a C7 LuthAr upper from optics planet. At first glance it looks like a decent part. This one appears to be a new batch that doesn’t have any issues with the carry handle dimensions.
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Posted: 5/12/2021 4:36:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Neither, the Marine Corps is who adopted the M16A2, the army in the meantime kept using M16A1’s but upgraded to the M16A1E1 which featured a shell deflector. Eventually the Army adopted the A2, the DK uppers were made by Dixie Tool for I’m guessing is reserve and NG units, as they were procured in the early to mid 90’s. William The Army adopted the M16A2 a whole 3 years after the USMC. The M16A1E1 was the test bed for the M16A2. It was never an adopted service rifle. |
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Posted: 5/12/2021 4:52:03 PM EDT
[#30]
The A1’s were upgraded to the E1 shell deflector uppers, nowhere did I say the M16A1E1 was adopted. And yes big army adopted the A2 later than Marines, but reserve and NG units gradually phases them out, and used the E1 uppers in the meantime...sort of like...what I already said ???????
William |
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Posted: 5/12/2021 5:36:03 PM EDT
[#31]
Yeah I was in the army during all that time and I don’t ever remember seeing anything like a C7 upper. But of course I wasn’t everywhere in the army. And I went warrant in 1987 and was issued an m9 after that ( didn’t even get a .45 :( ).
And on top of it all I was in a lot of REMF units after that, so we didn’t get to play with stuff like when I was in infantry/ADA units! |
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Posted: 5/12/2021 8:10:42 PM EDT
[#32]
The C7 and C8 rifles and carbines were developed for the Canadian armed forces. They liked all the improvements with the A2 program except for the A2 rear sight, and elected to keep the A1 rear sight. My best friend, while a former SF guy in 7th Gp, is a Canuk and has family still up there, gets all the low down on Canadian shenanigans. The rifles are still in service with them, but that's where the uppers came from. I have to agree, I prefer the C7 over the A2 platform.
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Posted: 5/12/2021 8:38:19 PM EDT
[#33]
I built a rifle for my Father w/ the Luth C7 upper... Im going to order another now they are in stock.
 Attached File |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 1:01:07 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The A1’s were upgraded to the E1 shell deflector uppers, nowhere did I say the M16A1E1 was adopted. And yes big army adopted the A2 later than Marines, but reserve and NG units gradually phases them out, and used the E1 uppers in the meantime...sort of like...what I already said ??????? William Not is US service they weren’t. The C7 was a Canadian thing as far as service rifles are concerned. Might want to check your info. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 5:59:53 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not is US service they weren’t. The C7 was a Canadian thing as far as service rifles are concerned. Might want to check your info. Nothing in my post is about the C7, or anything Canadian, what are you talking about? |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 6:15:53 PM EDT
[#36]
Optics Planet says $136 I think, and availability is 3-6 weeks out.
I was going to fo, but then I saw that Unity tactical Hot Buttons were finally back in stock. Priorities 
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Posted: 5/13/2021 9:31:04 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Optics Planet says $136 I think, and availability is 3-6 weeks out. I was going to fo, but then I saw that Unity tactical Hot Buttons were finally back in stock. Priorities I was gonna suggest the EE or Gunbroker, but at that price, that’s hard to beat. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 10:07:35 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Optics Planet says $136 I think, and availability is 3-6 weeks out. I was going to fo, but then I saw that Unity tactical Hot Buttons were finally back in stock. Priorities I guess they sold quick. They had my order in stock just a few days ago. I just put mine together:  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 10:18:24 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess they sold quick. They had my order in stock just a few days ago. I just put mine together: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/511B971C-86CB-47BB-B1D0-25BFE0C4A4EA_jpe-1941403.JPG For a time, I thought that pencil FSB mid lengths would look weird and out of place, but seeing what you have there may just change my mind about it. Is the barrel a Spike's CHF lightweight in 14.5? Bayonet fitment issues at all? |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:01:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For a time, I thought that pencil FSB mid lengths would look weird and out of place, but seeing what you have there may just change my mind about it. Is the barrel a Spike's CHF lightweight in 14.5? Bayonet fitment issues at all? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I guess they sold quick. They had my order in stock just a few days ago. I just put mine together: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/511B971C-86CB-47BB-B1D0-25BFE0C4A4EA_jpe-1941403.JPG For a time, I thought that pencil FSB mid lengths would look weird and out of place, but seeing what you have there may just change my mind about it. Is the barrel a Spike's CHF lightweight in 14.5? Bayonet fitment issues at all? Yes, spikes LW CL 14.5. I also wasn’t sure about the mid length 14.5 in this configuration. I was planning a 10.5, 11.5, or 14.5 carbine gas. I happened upon a deal for this barrel so decided to try. I don’t regret building this. It’s very light and well balanced. I don’t have a bayonet to check, sorry. I didn’t plan on using a bayonet with this and don’t think it works with mid lengths. I could be wrong though |
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Posted: 5/14/2021 7:47:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing in my post is about the C7, or anything Canadian, what are you talking about? Stop trying to divert the discussion. You made a claim and it was refuted. The US military did not adopt or upgrade A1s with C7 uppers in any known capacity. |
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Posted: 5/14/2021 4:04:46 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Stop trying to divert the discussion. You made a claim and it was refuted. The US military did not adopt or upgrade A1s with C7 uppers in any known capacity. Again, nothing in my post is about C7’s, so nothing has been refuted, other than your clear inability to read what I posted in regards to the M16A1E1 program. So kindly, stop actually trying to divert the discussion. |
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Posted: 6/9/2021 8:07:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Army adopted the M16A2 a whole 3 years after the USMC. The M16A1E1 was the test bed for the M16A2. It was never an adopted service rifle. I was shown one in Army ROTC in 1985 or '86 and my understanding has always been that there was such a demand for the 'NEW' A2 uppers, that the M16A1E1 was adopted as an interim measure. It had all A2 features except the upper receiver, since they weren't available. The C7 was, and filled the void temporarily. My instructor specifically wanted to show us the new service rifle and wasn't happy. As far as adopted, all I know is I saw one, which likely came out of NG stocks, so... |
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Posted: 6/9/2021 10:01:42 PM EDT
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what a lot of people who shoot high power competition do is remove 1 or 2 coils from the ejector spring. That way instead of the brass landing behind you, it goes to about the 2 o'clock position in a neat little pile...Bill
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