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How about a 16" takedown version? Pistol is fine but I'd want the longer barrel.
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Originally Posted By RepoB52:
We have these in our (B-52) seat kits when we go downrange, so I'd buy at least an upper to practice with. Maybe the whole rifle (well, pistol) if the price was reasonable. Any idea what sort of ammo the USAF is including in the seat kits? Hopefully brown tip but mk262 would be ok too. Gotta make up for the short barrel somehow. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By ErikS:
Thanks but why not just break a normal GAU at the takedown pins and make a plastic cover for each half? With the folding grip it would have still fit in the seat. I have an ACES seat pack laying in my office. I know this for a fact. It seems like an expensive way to address a simple problem. I breakdown my 16in gun often to take it to the range in a backpack. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ErikS:
Thanks but why not just break a normal GAU at the takedown pins and make a plastic cover for each half? With the folding grip it would have still fit in the seat. I have an ACES seat pack laying in my office. I know this for a fact. It seems like an expensive way to address a simple problem. I breakdown my 16in gun often to take it to the range in a backpack. Do I get extra points for knowing one of these guys? |
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Why not a LWRC Ulta Compact Stock kit? That woudl be a smaller footprint.
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Blessed be the Lord, my rock, Who trains my hands for war, And my fingers for battle. - Psalm 144:1
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I'd definitely be interested for sure! As long as it cost less than 1200 complete and is as close as you can get to the real thing ,it should sell, especially to the cloner guys ( or the poors like myself, who go for "inspired" builds)
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Always been a fan of your stuff, MI. So cool to see you doing this.
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Call the tune and let's dance; but beware that the devil is the piper and the tab for that soiree will be hell to pay.
Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail |
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Neat. I doubt that it could meet a price point to appeal to the masses, but I could see it selling modestly well if pricing isn't nuts.
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who makes that folding pistol grip??
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Would anyone have an idea of some sort about the gas block the Air Force is using to convert the "donor" M4 into the GAU-5A? It should be some kind of low profile unit? TIA.
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Just throwing in that I'd definitely buy either a pistol or an upper + pistol grip kit.
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Pretty sure it wouldn't be CT legal as a pistol, but I'd consider the upper and possibly the folding pistol grip assembly if it doesn't require permanently modifying the lower. My SBR still needs a 5.56 upper and that's a neat option. Sadly, I probably wouldn't spend the money versus a standard short upper, I imagine there will be a hefty premium given the niche market and non standard parts.
I know, I know, go be poor elsewhere. What can I say, I'm trying to get into night vision and save for a move across the country to get out of this state. |
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Now available in a pistol form.
The upper and grip will be available in the near future. https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/category-s/578.htm |
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Midwest Industries Inc.
Quality Manufacturers of Tactical Rifles & Accessories www.midwestindustriesinc.com |
Originally Posted By Midwest_Ind:
Now available in a pistol form. The upper and grip will be available in the near future. https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/category-s/578.htm View Quote ETA: I was going to say the SBA4 brace would have been a closer clone but maybe that would have interfered with the folding grip? |
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There never seems
to be enough time to do the things you want to do once you find them |
100% interested in the upper!
I'd buy a complete pistol if the price were right. Theres so much good stuff that could be done with that upper though. |
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Originally Posted By retroguy:
Would anyone have an idea of some sort about the gas block the Air Force is using to convert the "donor" M4 into the GAU-5A? It should be some kind of low profile unit? TIA. View Quote Personally, I would go with number 2. But will it be an exact copy/clone? Probably not, but for me it would be good enough. |
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Really neat gun. Congrats Midwest Ind.!
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Only on ARFCOM could an ass whooping be brought up, over a conversation about a rear BUIS. -MILSPEC556
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Originally Posted By IRA:
Well my swag is 1. cut a couple inches off the M4 barrel and rethread & neuter the FSB or replace with .750 low profile gas block. Or 2. replace M4 barrel with 12.5 BCM CHF barrel and BCM .750 lp gb. Personally, I would go with number 2. But will it be an exact copy/clone? Probably not, but for me it would be good enough. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By retroguy:
What is "brown tip?" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By retroguy:
Originally Posted By RepoB52:
Any idea what sort of ammo the USAF is including in the seat kits? Hopefully, brown tip but mk262 would be ok too. Gotta make up for the short barrel somehow. Most likely 855A1 in use with these rifles. |
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Regarding the parts under the GAU-5A's handguard, I found in an archived thread from earlier this year within this very forum that supposedly the USAF is using the ERGO .750 LOW-PRO ADJUSTABLE GAS BLOCK gas tube interface. It confuses me as to why the USAF would use an adjustable block to arm folks who would not wish to adjust the port size. I am going to use a standard, non-adjustable low profile unit for my replica since the one I bought is WAY cheaper.
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Originally Posted By retroguy:
Regarding the parts under the GAU-5A's handguard, I found in an archived thread from earlier this year within this very forum that supposedly the USAF is using the ERGO .750 LOW-PRO ADJUSTABLE GAS BLOCK gas tube interface. It confuses me as to why the USAF would use an adjustable block to arm folks who would not wish to adjust the port size. I am going to use a standard, non-adjustable low profile unit for my replica since the one I bought is WAY cheaper. View Quote |
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There never seems
to be enough time to do the things you want to do once you find them |
Originally Posted By LV1976:
I wonder if adding a suppressor was considered at one time. View Quote |
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Huh. I never delved too deep into this weapon, but I see from the product description that this has a nitride barrel. I find that kind of interesting for some reason.
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I'd like one, I make a living on F15s. A bunch of us crew chiefs are gun guys, I could probably move a couple dozen for ya.
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I'm a retired crew chief who worked on the lawn darts and wouldn't mind having one as well.
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Congrats. You guys make great stuff.
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Perhaps this could also be marketed like the Alaskan survival stuff, Bush Pilot's Buddy, in a bright orange waterproof floating hard case, with space for at least three loaded magazines. Also, the Truck Buddy with a discreet hard case that fits behind most pickup seats, maybe with some artful "grease stains" and a spot for a fake company name, case looks like a jack holder or porta potty cleaner. Selling some oddball carry methods WITH the gun might increase the sales potential with small, concealable, storage options. 5.11 might be interested in doing a special back pack combo, covert, hiking, or pilot bag.
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As a hobby, and for practical reasons due to my life spent in remote areas by myself, I've spent many years studying Escape and Evasion and the history and methods involving military incidents. What is demonstrated time and again is:
1} In a bailout, guys often don't bring with them/make use of the survival gear they are issued due to many reasons. Often, in the past, it was simply that they didn't have a kit attached to their person and had no time to grab it on the way out of the plane. I think that has been addressed almost universally now with kits attached to parachutes & ejection seats, etc. I'm not entirely sure about that. 2} The whole idea of a single pilot aircrewman fighting off the savages with his personal survival weapon has time and again proven to be fanciful. In fact, historically, many are the occasions that crew threw away the guns they possessed {issued or privately held}, as to carry them and/or use them would only complicate their concrete situation. The need to blend in with local people often precluded a larger weapon than a pistol, rifles or even short carbines being impossible to possess discretely. Thus a pistol might be acceptable for concealment purposes, but realistically, is almost useless for much beyond hiding it... 3} In the event a weapon actually is needed, something other than a pistol is usually desirable, whether that weapon is needed for personal protection or for hunting. And in a better caliber than a pistol provides. 4} Regarding the latter, a silencer is essential. But in fact, "hunting" with a survival weapon is almost never done. Neat to see these issues are being addressed with an attempt to actually produce a tool to meet the very restrictive demands necessitated in a bailout/survival/E&E situation. In the end, in fact, I bet the weapons will almost never be used for the purpose for which they are being made. Yet there is a psychological value to their issue anyway, and there may be more practical applications in the private sector as others have suggested, including bush pilot use, camping, backpacking, etc. As for myself, I'd find one neat for my ski treks, tho I usually want the weapon handy or more easily accessible than would be the case with a breakdown type. Also, OP, just a thought, but for winter conditions I'd strongly recommend a plastic cap for muzzle and breech of the detached barrel and a simple plug affair to close the front end of the receiver where the breech of the barrel enters. Amazing how frost can collect and absolutely lock up a mechanism or prevent the fitting together of parts. Under extreme conditions, thawing and re-freezing of condensation frost alone can absolutely prevent the fitting of tight-fit parts. I know it sounds silly at 70 degrees whilst pecking on a keyboard and staring at a monitor, but I've experienced this absolute lockup and that with already fitted parts. Having to fit together a weapon quickly that just doesn't want to would be and could be more than frustrating. FWIW. And yeah, I'm aware of the fact that those plugs and caps would be almost instantly forgotten, misplaced or thrown away. Might take a lesson learned the hard way to drive home the point. Thanks for posting on that interesting rifle. |
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John 6:35; And Jesus said to them, I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.
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Regarding the 12.5" BCM barrel for this carbine, does anyone know what the gas port size is? I read all the verbiage from the web site and was unable to see what size it might be. Since this is a short-barreled carbine, is there a port size that is best without making said carbine over gassed? TIA.
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Originally Posted By Postal0311:
FAB Defense AGF-43S View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Postal0311:
Originally Posted By CTomas:
who makes that folding pistol grip?? |
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Starting to acquire parts for this build, but am slightly confused about sighting things in once it is built.
The manual for the Magpul MBUS Pro front sight states one should sight in at 200M. Does this also mean one should sight in at say 50M as the bullet trajectory would cross over at that point? TIA. |
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Are your uppers chrome lined?
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Originally Posted By Postal0311:
You might want to check out some of ARFCOM's previous discussions about this weapon system to see how the public feels about it. I think it is cool and I want one. But to john q public it is a niche of a niche. It is built to fit in a particular size location and the average person is not worried about. There isn't much name recognition of the system, no videos of Navy Seals doing cool things with it. Most of the time it is brought up, people will ask why the AF didn't just buy Sig Rattlers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Postal0311:
Originally Posted By tranzformer: Speak for yourself and not for others. The responses in this thread so far state otherwise. I think it is cool and I want one. But to john q public it is a niche of a niche. It is built to fit in a particular size location and the average person is not worried about. There isn't much name recognition of the system, no videos of Navy Seals doing cool things with it. Most of the time it is brought up, people will ask why the AF didn't just buy Sig Rattlers. Your Alternative |
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Simple question.
What feasible alternative will you vote for in 2020 to protect your 2A rights? Arguing with folks on a web forum is like masturbating to a Victoria’s Secret catalogue minus the happy ending. |
Originally Posted By familyman357:
Huh. I never delved too deep into this weapon, but I see from the product description that this has a nitride barrel. I find that kind of interesting for some reason. View Quote Also @Muricha WTF you talking about? Maybe you should cut down on the booze. |
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Originally Posted By Postal0311: @AlexBrooks The OP, our Midwest Industries rep, specifically said, "Your thoughts on offering this would be appreciated." Once again, I say: I think Midwest would be smart to offer it in a few different forms: 1. An upper receiver group(URG) with no sights or accessories 2. An URG with the sights and folding grip. 3. Lastly, complete firearms. Another note, the clone community is pretty nutty and picky. The closer you can get it to being exactly correct, the more they will like it. But unfortunately this is not a well known military model. Midwest Ind might want to do an advertising campaign about how their stuff is in use with the Airforce. Last time I talked about this weapon system, someone asked me if a MK18 upper and lower would be smaller. They didn't realize that this broken down is 5 inches shorter than a MK18 broken down, and has a 2.2 inch longer barrel when it is put together. It would be smart for Midwest Ind to show these facts in their advertising. View Quote The market will be niche, but for folks that already have 3 or 13 other ARs and are looking for something new and cool, it will scratch an itch. |
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GD is like putting on crampons and walking through a room full of puppies.
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Does anyone know what the dimensions are for the MI-GAU5A-P when it is broken down? It would be interesting to see what type of case this would fit into. I have found that the military version "GAU-5A ASDW measures just under 16 x 14 x 3.5 inches" but this one is slightly different. I don't know how the dimensions are affected.
But the unfortunate part of this is that I just told my wife is that I am done buying guns for a while. It looks like I was wrong. 2Hut8 |
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It's broke in half!
I'll give you $50 It looks badass! |
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Originally Posted By Midwest_Ind:
Now available in a pistol form. The upper and grip will be available in the near future. https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/category-s/578.htm View Quote |
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Sell it to the masses as a braced pistol.
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Originally Posted By HullBreach: Nah I bought a gun because stabbing people with bullets just doesn't carry the same message of "Get the fuck out of my house"
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Thats pretty bad ass, I would much rather have that than a pistol when shot down behind enemy lines.
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