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Originally Posted By MickB: Do the AP5 Navy models have SEF trigger packs? Will that even matter for the ASHK FRT? The AP5 Navy models have ambi trigger packs not SEF. |
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Originally Posted By Spyider: I wonder how the hammer will hold up over prolonged use… The rare breed hammers look like the are getting dimpled prematurely from the firing pin.. hoping ASD uses better quality material. Over on HKPro ASD said this: “Our current prototypes are S7 tool steel on the hammer. We will likely use S7 or 8620 case hardened (same material most AR FCGs are made with) for production units. The other parts will be a mix of 4140 and 6061/7075 (aluminum) depending on their needs of strength.” |
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Originally Posted By krdt: Has anything been stated as far as the trigger pull weight planned for these? Originally Posted By krdt: Has anything been stated as far as the trigger pull weight planned for these? Yup, it was mentioned back a few pages in this thread: Originally Posted By s3igu2: The pull weight has been cleaned up, its around 4 to 6 pounds and feels more like a mil spec ar15 FCG, the selector detent setup is also now much better witch imo feels like a AR15 selector in terms of detent positions. |
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Originally Posted By JTX23: HK Parts. They cost about a kidney. They were $1499 when they first came in and several vendors had them. Once HK Parts inventory dries up they’re only going to get more expensive. And they’re the cheapest 7.62 kit in a modern(ish) GPMG you’ll find. The build is not for the meek though. Highly recommend paying a builder. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Deny_Everything: Rare breed is $615. A supersafety and lower kit is like $800. A factory machine gun is unobtainable. $550 isn't cheap, but is the cheapest. These prices are highway robbery Print or buy a Leber lower, throw in a milspec trigger, tool steel supersafety & slip Maybe $250 if you overpay for everything. I printed & assembled my own with mostly parts I already had for under $100 Edited please read rules Aimless |
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Originally Posted By stiglitz_actual: These prices are highway robbery Print or buy a Leber lower, throw in a milspec trigger, tool steel supersafety & slip Maybe $250 if you overpay for everything. I printed & assembled my own with mostly parts I already had for under $100 That is disingenuous at best. You forgot to include the cost of the printer, your time, and the fact that it only works on an MP5. This will drop into your factory lower and work on 5.56 and 7.62 variants. I say this as someone who has leber lowers in 3 different mp5 variants and really enjoys them. I will absolutely be getting one or more of these ARHK triggers for my 53, 33, G3K, G3 and hopefully soon to be built HK21 kit. Registered search packs are north of 50k these days, so even if I buy 5 of these I've saved 95% or more of the cost of a sear. It's a no brainer. |
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Originally Posted By Goosemaster: I hope they hurry up because their main competitor just dropped more triggers. Meh, I don’t really care what their main competitor does as long as it’s rare breed. I’d much rather have them take their time and get it right. |
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Originally Posted By TheFaz: That is disingenuous at best. You forgot to include the cost of the printer, your time, and the fact that it only works on an MP5. This will drop into your factory lower and work on 5.56 and 7.62 variants. I say this as someone who has leber lowers in 3 different mp5 variants and really enjoys them. I will absolutely be getting one or more of these ARHK triggers for my 53, 33, G3K, G3 and hopefully soon to be built HK21 kit. Registered search packs are north of 50k these days, so even if I buy 5 of these I've saved 95% or more of the cost of a sear. It's a no brainer. Supposedly… They still haven’t confirmed it will work in a 21 because they refuse to show it working in a 21…which is telling. And at the cost of a registered sear pack that’s 100 years of annual SOT fees….not worth it these days. Hasn’t been since transferable packs climbed over $20k. |
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Originally Posted By cms81586: Supposedly… They still haven’t confirmed it will work in a 21 because they refuse to show it working in a 21…which is telling. And at the cost of a registered sear pack that’s 100 years of annual SOT fees….not worth it these days. Hasn’t been since transferable packs climbed over $20k. If it doesn’t work in a 21, I’m sure all 15 people will be disappointed. Seriously, about 95% of these are going to be put in SP5’s or various MP5 clones. About 4% will be put in G3’s or other HK clones. Only about 1% would be put in something like a HK21. If I were them, I wouldn’t waste my time on that. They can make a HK21 variant down the road if there is enough demand there. |
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| Small note for people comparing prices, we actually will include a HK Ejector for that price, you don't have to scavenge or buy it separately... There will be an option to not get the ejector (mostly for people with 5.56 or HK21 where the ejector is hard to obtain or insanely overpriced). |
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Originally Posted By cms81586: Supposedly… They still haven’t confirmed it will work in a 21 because they refuse to show it working in a 21…which is telling. And at the cost of a registered sear pack that’s 100 years of annual SOT fees….not worth it these days. Hasn’t been since transferable packs climbed over $20k. I'm not sure where you are getting that info about it not being confirmed, but if it's from anyone other than me, it's incorrect. I have confirmed the design will work in the 21 and we will have videos of this very soon along with the ap53 and g3. We also haven't refused to post videos of anything i just have to actually go take the videos and post them. I have already shared alot of videos on my IG story, and I'll probably be posting some more tomorrow depending on the weather. |
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Originally Posted By s3igu2: We also haven't refused to post videos of anything i just have to actually go take the videos and post them. I have already shared alot of videos on my IG story, and I'll probably be posting some more tomorrow depending on the weather.  Cant wait to see the videos |
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Originally Posted By ARguy: For the $615 price of the Rare Breed, you would think that it had set detent stops like any selector of any firearm...ever. Jeebus Christ the RB selector doesn't have detents? I would be so damn pissed about that if I dropped $620 for one lmao |
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Originally Posted By s3igu2: I'm not sure where you are getting that info about it not being confirmed, but if it's from anyone other than me, it's incorrect. I have confirmed the design will work in the 21 and we will have videos of this very soon along with the ap53 and g3. We also haven't refused to post videos of anything i just have to actually go take the videos and post them. I have already shared alot of videos on my IG story, and I'll probably be posting some more tomorrow depending on the weather. Originally Posted By s3igu2: Originally Posted By cms81586: Supposedly… They still haven’t confirmed it will work in a 21 because they refuse to show it working in a 21…which is telling. And at the cost of a registered sear pack that’s 100 years of annual SOT fees….not worth it these days. Hasn’t been since transferable packs climbed over $20k. I'm not sure where you are getting that info about it not being confirmed, but if it's from anyone other than me, it's incorrect. I have confirmed the design will work in the 21 and we will have videos of this very soon along with the ap53 and g3. We also haven't refused to post videos of anything i just have to actually go take the videos and post them. I have already shared alot of videos on my IG story, and I'll probably be posting some more tomorrow depending on the weather. Gigabased. |
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Originally Posted By fbdm: Jeebus Christ the RB selector doesn't have detents? I would be so damn pissed about that if I dropped $620 for one lmao I'm being a bit facetious. It does but they are hardly noticeable. I think it's the most noted complaint. Def ready to see what AS Designs has to offer. |
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Originally Posted By ASDesigns: Small note for people comparing prices, we actually will include a HK Ejector for that price, you don't have to scavenge or buy it separately... There will be an option to not get the ejector (mostly for people with 5.56 or HK21 where the ejector is hard to obtain or insanely overpriced). That's nice bonus. Makes it truly a drop in for 9mm at least, no need to swap the ejector from your factory pack in and out every time. Will be there be one model of the ARHK that works in both SEF and ambi grip frames? or will there be specific models for each like Rare Breed? |
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Originally Posted By cryo_tech: LOL people are so cheap. I'll take 4 over the next year for that price. Cause you know. I dont have sear money. Exactly. If you had asked people 5 years ago if they'd be willing to pay an extra 500 dollars to make their semi HK full auto they would have been falling all over themselves to open their wallets. But tell them they have to pay 500 dollars for a trigger to FRT it and they get all bent out of shape. Seeing as rare breed can't keep their 600 dollar trigger in stock it seems like most people agree that it's worth it. |
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I was a dealer and had a number of HK SMGs. They were all pre may guns. I ended up selling them though I could have just kept them. They are really cool to shoot. I can imagine that one of these triggers will be fun. $550? Don't cry, man. I paid 7k for one HK53 and I paid 12k for one of the mp5 pre may guns. If one of these triggers simulates what a real full auto gun does, buy several. You will be really happy. |
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Originally Posted By s3igu2: No slip trip or anything in the upper at all. Its fully self contained in the drop in housing and takes about 30 seconds to install. Compatible with the Military Arm Corp MAC 5? |
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