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Hey fellas Any timeline for the B&T APC lowers? I’d MUCH rather have y’all’s than a partisan or RB - currently these are the only solutions. Also couldn’t make it work with a Geissele trigger and blocker in a Q 8.6 Boombox. Had to use RB as it the ONLY solution for that firearm as the partisan will not allow reassembly due to geometry. Side note 8.6 suppressed in frt mode is sweet. |
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Originally Posted By HKH: Hey fellas Any timeline for the B&T APC lowers? I’d MUCH rather have y’all’s than a partisan or RB - currently these are the only solutions. Also couldn’t make it work with a Geissele trigger and blocker in a Q 8.6 Boombox. Had to use RB as it the ONLY solution for that firearm as the partisan will not allow reassembly due to geometry. Side note 8.6 suppressed in frt mode is sweet. Not yet, working with machine shops in the US is horrible, we have projects that have been sitting for months waiting for various shops to even get to the sample stage. We have APC223 and 308 sample lowers that are pretty close to final design, waiting on the 9/45s though. The 8.6 might need the 308 lever we're working on. |
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Originally Posted By ASDesigns: Not yet, working with machine shops in the US is horrible, we have projects that have been sitting for months waiting for various shops to even get to the sample stage. We have APC223 and 308 sample lowers that are pretty close to final design, waiting on the 9/45s though. The 8.6 might need the 308 lever we're working on. I remember Brandon Herrera saying he had the same problem with machine shops when he was developing the AK-50. He eventually went to Titans of CNC in Dallas to get the work done and done right. Maybe hit them up? They have metal 3D printers that would be perfect for prototype work. |
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Originally Posted By Walker77: I remember Brandon Herrera saying he had the same problem with machine shops when he was developing the AK-50. He eventually went to Titans of CNC in Dallas to get the work done and done right. Maybe hit them up? They have metal 3D printers that would be perfect for prototype work. We're talking to more rapid prototype focused shops currently, but you're not far off, a lot of our ARC stuff was metal 3D printed in early stages (we have a metal printer coming for our new shop as well, but that'll be a bit). |
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Originally Posted By ASDesigns: We're talking to more rapid prototype focused shops currently, but you're not far off, a lot of our ARC stuff was metal 3D printed in early stages (we have a metal printer coming for our new shop as well, but that'll be a bit). SO the ARHK is 8 to 10 wks from now? |
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Originally Posted By ASDesigns: We're talking to more rapid prototype focused shops currently, but you're not far off, a lot of our ARC stuff was metal 3D printed in early stages (we have a metal printer coming for our new shop as well, but that'll be a bit). Originally Posted By ASDesigns: Originally Posted By Walker77: I remember Brandon Herrera saying he had the same problem with machine shops when he was developing the AK-50. He eventually went to Titans of CNC in Dallas to get the work done and done right. Maybe hit them up? They have metal 3D printers that would be perfect for prototype work. We're talking to more rapid prototype focused shops currently, but you're not far off, a lot of our ARC stuff was metal 3D printed in early stages (we have a metal printer coming for our new shop as well, but that'll be a bit). Nice! |
| Started a thread last night asking about your lowers and kits for MKE clones and differences between AS lowers, somebody liked this thread, you have my attention. I'm in no huge rush other than wanting to beat any congressional action or unjust injunctions. My guess is your expected due date will beat that, so I'm likely waiting and most likely down for 2. |
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Originally Posted By ASDesigns: We're talking to more rapid prototype focused shops currently, but you're not far off, a lot of our ARC stuff was metal 3D printed in early stages (we have a metal printer coming for our new shop as well, but that'll be a bit). You may want to give Barnes Precision Machine a call, especially since you're in NC. They seemed to have wound down their own push into the firearms world as the AR market flooded. That said they have been doing gun and bow products, along with lots of other stuff from racing/aerospace/medical for a long time. https://barnesprecisionmachine.com/ I've got no affiliation with them and don't own any of their branded products but I did meet the owner and walk his production floors with him 20 years ago and he left me with a great impression back then. |
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Curtis @ digitalsublimationmedia.com does nice work. Just waiting for March now. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By ASDesigns: Not yet, working with machine shops in the US is horrible, we have projects that have been sitting for months waiting for various shops to even get to the sample stage. We have APC223 and 308 sample lowers that are pretty close to final design, waiting on the 9/45s though. The 8.6 might need the 308 lever we're working on. That hurt my feelings a little 
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Originally Posted By Gorton87: That hurt my feelings a little Originally Posted By Gorton87: Originally Posted By ASDesigns: Not yet, working with machine shops in the US is horrible, we have projects that have been sitting for months waiting for various shops to even get to the sample stage. We have APC223 and 308 sample lowers that are pretty close to final design, waiting on the 9/45s though. The 8.6 might need the 308 lever we're working on. That hurt my feelings a little Oh yeah, like you know anything about machining! |
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Originally Posted By Gorton87: Sheesh let me go find some rope lol. Originally Posted By Gorton87: Originally Posted By ELittlefield: Oh yeah, like you know anything about machining! Sheesh let me go find some rope lol. I can do just as good as you with a Dremel and a tape measure! |
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Originally Posted By bkpkr: Curtis @ digitalsublimationmedia.com does nice work. Just waiting for March now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/125849/IMG_9365_jpeg-3717323.JPG That’s clean work, will have to reach out to him for mine |
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Originally Posted By TSH77769: Why won't it work with 7.62x39? This makes me very sad as this is the HK type taht most interst me due to the use of standard AK mags so no proprietary expensive HK mags. Any chance it may be made to work with 7.62x39 in the future? The reason it wont work with x39 is more of a issue with the host then ARHK, even getting them to run with FA packs is apparently not easy. Its just not supported with ARHK that doesn't really mean its never going to work if you mix the right ammo or make changes to the host. |
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Originally Posted By s3igu2: Yes, because ARHK wasn't really built with any limitations due to the size of the MP5 drop in footprint all the parts are able to be extremely durable and purpose built for this exact assembly, for example all the FCG and ARC parts are dedicated for ARHK meaning they aren't just modified to work. Also the ARHK is even higher leverage then the super safety so the active reset mode will be very reliable even with alot of pressure on the trigger. It will be serviceable and I'm confident its the most durable trigger reset device out there by far due to the fact it was built from the ground up to survive 1000s of rounds of 308 in a g3. Originally Posted By s3igu2: Originally Posted By lil_Sig: Are they reliable, projected to have a long service life and be serviceable by the end user? Yes, because ARHK wasn't really built with any limitations due to the size of the MP5 drop in footprint all the parts are able to be extremely durable and purpose built for this exact assembly, for example all the FCG and ARC parts are dedicated for ARHK meaning they aren't just modified to work. Also the ARHK is even higher leverage then the super safety so the active reset mode will be very reliable even with alot of pressure on the trigger. It will be serviceable and I'm confident its the most durable trigger reset device out there by far due to the fact it was built from the ground up to survive 1000s of rounds of 308 in a g3. Can we pre purchase? |
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Originally Posted By heavyduty: I’m starting to watch for a good donor clone for one of these - I don’t think I want to put one in my HKs. Why not? I am. Attached File |
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I'll get two or three. 9mm full size, k, and hk53 clone all needing one. Not a priority for me at all, but it would be cool if they could incorporate some of the burst stuff that's coming out for ARs too. |
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Originally Posted By bkpkr: Why not? I am. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/125849/IMG_9373_jpeg-3722696.JPG Risk vs. reward. |
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Originally Posted By maggiethecat: Am I the only one checking the website twice a day for this? I heard the more you check, the longer it takes. Probably best you guys only check once per month. Better yet, I’ll let you know when I get mine. It’ll be much easier that way.   Yes, it’s a constant open window in my browser. |
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I am curious if they are going to do pre orders like they did with the arc-fire, or if they are going to just randomly drop them for sale on the site with no warning and those who just happen to visit and see them, can buy. I know the internet will break their site and payment processor once the word gets out. |
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Originally Posted By RaptorFuel: I'm ready! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/167432/IMG_9155_jpeg-3729532.JPG That looks great! |
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So, assuming a person wanted a clone to dedicate to a ARHK - what’s the best cost effective choice? I think I’d want a full size for reliability and to avoid the need to dick around with locking pieces when you’re shooting high rate of fire 147 subs suppressed like you have to in K guns. I’m already in the MP5 ecosystem, branching out to something else like a Kuna with FRT doesn’t make much sense. |
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Originally Posted By heavyduty: So, assuming a person wanted a clone to dedicate to a ARHK - what’s the best cost effective choice? I think I’d want a full size for reliability and to avoid the need to dick around with locking pieces when you’re shooting high rate of fire 147 subs suppressed like you have to in K guns. I’m already in the MP5 ecosystem, branching out to something else like a Kuna with FRT doesn’t make much sense. AP5 with a navy lower would be my pick for a sub gun. HK21 would be amazing. A 53 in 300BO would be cool but that wouldn't be my first pick. Sorry, I realize that 2 of the 3 are not cost effective |
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Originally Posted By heavyduty: So, assuming a person wanted a clone to dedicate to a ARHK - what’s the best cost effective choice? I think I’d want a full size for reliability and to avoid the need to dick around with locking pieces when you’re shooting high rate of fire 147 subs suppressed like you have to in K guns. I’m already in the MP5 ecosystem, branching out to something else like a Kuna with FRT doesn’t make much sense. I just picked up a AP5 navy and I like it so far. Shot it for the first time today. 100 rounds with no issue. |
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Originally Posted By heavyduty: So, assuming a person wanted a clone to dedicate to a ARHK - what’s the best cost effective choice? I think I’d want a full size for reliability and to avoid the need to dick around with locking pieces when you’re shooting high rate of fire 147 subs suppressed like you have to in K guns. I’m already in the MP5 ecosystem, branching out to something else like a Kuna with FRT doesn’t make much sense. I purchase my first MP5 style firearm due to ASD announcing the future ARHK. My choice was the MKE AP5SD. Now that I have it in hand, I'm debating getting a MKE AP5 to keep the AP5SD company. I briefly considered the AP5P but ultimately decided the regular AP5 would be better for my use. |
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