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Originally Posted By Hill_monkey: I wasn't going to post anything about my f'up but I figured it'll help someone else not be a dumbass.  Originally Posted By Hill_monkey: Originally Posted By viator: Oh, man. I'm sorry to say it, but I concur with those who say that your trigger has far too much material removed on the left side. As they say, if it passes the safe test is still fitting for a semi auto AR15. These fiends have talked me into buying 7 G$ triggers in the last month: 6 G2S and 1 SSA. I had no G$ triggers before that. I was focused on LaRue MBT-2s triggers, until I saw that they were not being supported by FRT manufacturers. So, out with the LaRues and in with the G$s! Many a lad has gone down the path to ruin by listening to the FRT pimps in this thread! The good thing is that my wife thinks that our credit card bill for 7 G$ triggers and 14 FRTs in the last few months is funny. Good women are hard to come by. I wasn't going to post anything about my f'up but I figured it'll help someone else not be a dumbass. And, we will forever be able to point at you and make faces, laughing at your misfortune. I am sad to say that we will never let you live this down.  |
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Originally Posted By viator: And, we will forever be able to point at you and make faces, laughing at your misfortune. I am sad to say that we will never let you live this down. Originally Posted By viator: Originally Posted By Hill_monkey: Originally Posted By viator: Oh, man. I'm sorry to say it, but I concur with those who say that your trigger has far too much material removed on the left side. As they say, if it passes the safe test is still fitting for a semi auto AR15. These fiends have talked me into buying 7 G$ triggers in the last month: 6 G2S and 1 SSA. I had no G$ triggers before that. I was focused on LaRue MBT-2s triggers, until I saw that they were not being supported by FRT manufacturers. So, out with the LaRues and in with the G$s! Many a lad has gone down the path to ruin by listening to the FRT pimps in this thread! The good thing is that my wife thinks that our credit card bill for 7 G$ triggers and 14 FRTs in the last few months is funny. Good women are hard to come by. I wasn't going to post anything about my f'up but I figured it'll help someone else not be a dumbass. And, we will forever be able to point at you and make faces, laughing at your misfortune. I am sad to say that we will never let you live this down. Man I can’t let them hate on you like that  . If you want to send it to me I’ll see if I can lay some metal on top and shape to spec. No charge but if I roast it then that’s life I guess I’d be happy to try it. |
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Originally Posted By HKH: ***I am not a gunsmith just a drooling idiot on the internet. Do not take my advice as you may destroy your expensive G$ trigger*** This has worked for five out of five G$ triggers. Using the V1 ARC FIRE. I have not used this for any others. Don’t blame me if you’ve got a run away dremel or your volume only goes to 11. Be gentle, use lube, make it comfortable as you violate this lovely thing. You want her to invite you back to enjoy her over and over and go faster and faster. If you’re an ogre and brute force it you get what you deserve. Alright fellas…. Let’s take a shot at a pictorial. I’ll update the post, so it may take some time to complete. * the uncut trigger is a Super Dynamic Enhanced and the modified is a Super Dynamic Combat. Same trigger dimensions so all is equal. Uncut right side SDE https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99571/IMG_9778-3701679.jpg Cut Right Side SDC https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99571/IMG_9779-3701680.jpg *UnROUNDED left side SDE https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99571/IMG_9780-3701681.jpg *ROUNDED left side SDC https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99571/IMG_9781-3701682.jpg Side by side https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99571/Image-3701705.jpg Side by side https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99571/Image-3701717.jpg Unmodified SDE https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99571/IMG_9782-3701684.jpg Modified SDC https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99571/IMG_9783-3701685.jpg Unmodified SDE https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99571/IMG_9787-3701706.jpg Modified SDE https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99571/IMG_9788-3701707.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99571/IMG_9785-3701722.jpg Page 18, post # 14. Got it! 
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Originally Posted By viator: Yeah. I know. I meant 3 position FRTs. I may pick up a 2 pos AZ Regulator, just because. The idea of FRTing my 24" varmint rifle with a LaRue MBT-2s is interesting. Originally Posted By viator: Originally Posted By STJ: Originally Posted By viator: Oh, man. I'm sorry to say it, but I concur with those who say that your trigger has far too much material removed on the left side. As they say, if it passes the safe test is still fitting for a semi auto AR15. These fiends have talked me into buying 7 G$ triggers in the last month: 6 G2S and 1 SSA. I had no G$ triggers before that. I was focused on LaRue MBT-2s triggers, until I saw that they were not being supported by FRT manufacturers. So, out with the LaRues and in with the G$s! Many a lad has gone down the path to ruin by listening to the FRT pimps in this thread! The good thing is that my wife thinks that our credit card bill for 7 G$ triggers and 14 FRTs in the last few months is funny. Good women are hard to come by. Yeah. I know. I meant 3 position FRTs. I may pick up a 2 pos AZ Regulator, just because. The idea of FRTing my 24" varmint rifle with a LaRue MBT-2s is interesting. I have been running a Larue MBT with my ARCFire and haven't had any issues yet. |
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Originally Posted By Virine: I have been running a Larue MBT with my ARCFire and haven't had any issues yet. Originally Posted By Virine: Originally Posted By viator: Originally Posted By STJ: Originally Posted By viator: Oh, man. I'm sorry to say it, but I concur with those who say that your trigger has far too much material removed on the left side. As they say, if it passes the safe test is still fitting for a semi auto AR15. These fiends have talked me into buying 7 G$ triggers in the last month: 6 G2S and 1 SSA. I had no G$ triggers before that. I was focused on LaRue MBT-2s triggers, until I saw that they were not being supported by FRT manufacturers. So, out with the LaRues and in with the G$s! Many a lad has gone down the path to ruin by listening to the FRT pimps in this thread! The good thing is that my wife thinks that our credit card bill for 7 G$ triggers and 14 FRTs in the last few months is funny. Good women are hard to come by. Yeah. I know. I meant 3 position FRTs. I may pick up a 2 pos AZ Regulator, just because. The idea of FRTing my 24" varmint rifle with a LaRue MBT-2s is interesting. I have been running a Larue MBT with my ARCFire and haven't had any issues yet. Wow. Tell me more. What modifications did you need to make to the MBT-2s? I can swing a couple of ARC-Fires to my LaRues if they will run. |
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Originally Posted By Virine: I have been running a Larue MBT with my ARCFire and haven't had any issues yet. Originally Posted By Virine: Originally Posted By viator: Originally Posted By STJ: Originally Posted By viator: Oh, man. I'm sorry to say it, but I concur with those who say that your trigger has far too much material removed on the left side. As they say, if it passes the safe test is still fitting for a semi auto AR15. These fiends have talked me into buying 7 G$ triggers in the last month: 6 G2S and 1 SSA. I had no G$ triggers before that. I was focused on LaRue MBT-2s triggers, until I saw that they were not being supported by FRT manufacturers. So, out with the LaRues and in with the G$s! Many a lad has gone down the path to ruin by listening to the FRT pimps in this thread! The good thing is that my wife thinks that our credit card bill for 7 G$ triggers and 14 FRTs in the last few months is funny. Good women are hard to come by. Yeah. I know. I meant 3 position FRTs. I may pick up a 2 pos AZ Regulator, just because. The idea of FRTing my 24" varmint rifle with a LaRue MBT-2s is interesting. I have been running a Larue MBT with my ARCFire and haven't had any issues yet. A 2 stage? When I tried it, the operating lever wouldn't swing forward far enough, it impacted the first stage retainment hook. And that MBT 2s had a Super Safety cut.  " /> " /> |
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Originally Posted By viator: Wow. Tell me more. What modifications did you need to make to the MBT-2s? I can swing a couple of ARC-Fires to my LaRues if they will run. Sorry, I'm a complete idiot. The Atrius is what I have working with the MBT not the ARC-Fire. Since I've seen so much discussion on the ARC-Fire that was what my brain thought it was. Littlefield - Were you the one who had mentioned that the older Larue single stage triggers worked with the ARC-Fire or was that one of the other FRTs? I'm starting to lose track of all the different versions and combos at this point. |
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Originally Posted By Virine: Sorry, I'm a complete idiot. The Atrius is what I have working with the MBT not the ARC-Fire. Since I've seen so much discussion on the ARC-Fire that was what my brain thought it was. Littlefield - Were you the one who had mentioned that the older Larue single stage triggers worked with the ARC-Fire or was that one of the other FRTs? I'm starting to lose track of all the different versions and combos at this point. Originally Posted By Virine: Originally Posted By viator: Wow. Tell me more. What modifications did you need to make to the MBT-2s? I can swing a couple of ARC-Fires to my LaRues if they will run. Sorry, I'm a complete idiot. The Atrius is what I have working with the MBT not the ARC-Fire. Since I've seen so much discussion on the ARC-Fire that was what my brain thought it was. Littlefield - Were you the one who had mentioned that the older Larue single stage triggers worked with the ARC-Fire or was that one of the other FRTs? I'm starting to lose track of all the different versions and combos at this point. I found that the 1 stage MBT (now discontinued) works with the 3 position Arizona Regulator, using the Regulator's disconnector. It's possible that a small angle needs to be ground under the rear of the shoe, like the AZR's included shoe, but in mine it seems to work without such a grind. This is the AZR included shoe:  " /> " />
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Finally got mine installed tonight in a poverty pony lower. Was having an issue in semi where the trigger wouldn't reset. It was either not enough clearance behind the cam lever or my dumbass that had the trigger spring in wrong. I think it was the clearance issue because it worked fine in ARC and I could see marks where the cam was hitting. I took a small bit on my Dremel and clearanced where I could see the cam was hitting behind the safety bar. Functions perfect now and the mil spec trigger actually feels pretty damn good. Testing it out Saturday with my new sandman X. 😈 |
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V1 being discounted now with V2 theoretically imminent? $199 at Polymerpew right now. |
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Originally Posted By InDaRed2: Here's where I had to clearance my Anderson lower so the lever would go back far enough to disengage the disconnector when in semi auto. https://i.imgur.com/PirdIWb.jpeg |
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Originally Posted By glock23c: Ran a 30 round mag of Wolf steel 55 gr today on my shot timer. 30 rounds in 2.10 seconds. My math calculates that at 857 RPM. H3 buffer in a CAR stock. Nice. A steady 800-850 RPM is right about what I want. 500-700 is outstanding for sustained fire, but getting that out of an AR necessitates a longer gas system. |
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I was wondering how/if it would run with 7.62x39. Took the PSA upper to the range yesterday. Only had a 10 round mag with me shooting Wolf steel. Tried 2 rounds a couple of times, worked great. Put 5 in, still worked great. Filled the mag and it ran like a charm. Ran probably 100 or a few more thru it with no problems. This will be fun as I have 7 cases of the stuff I bought ~20 years ago for $66/k shipped. 
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Originally Posted By glock23c: I was wondering how/if it would run with 7.62x39. Took the PSA upper to the range yesterday. Only had a 10 round mag with me shooting Wolf steel. Tried 2 rounds a couple of times, worked great. Put 5 in, still worked great. Filled the mag and it ran like a charm. Ran probably 100 or a few more thru it with no problems. This will be fun as I have 7 cases of the stuff I bought ~20 years ago for $66/k shipped.  " />
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Originally Posted By Slickg66: Got tracking info on my v2 order today - bought it from suppressortools.com for $199. Also have disruptor and SS so it’ll be interesting to compare all 3. Not wanting to accuse, but a guy with a single post and a join date of yesterday, advertising a sketchy site with a product ASD hasn't even released on their own site... seems more than a little suspect. |
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Originally Posted By krdt: Not wanting to accuse, but a guy with a single post and a join date of yesterday, advertising a sketchy site with a product ASD hasn't even released on their own site... seems more than a little suspect. Suppressor Tools is legit and been around for years. I have several of their products. |
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https://www.suppressortools.com/product/as-designs-arc-fire-ambi-kit/ Again, I'm not seeing that it's a V2. |
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Originally Posted By glock23c: I was wondering how/if it would run with 7.62x39. Took the PSA upper to the range yesterday. Only had a 10 round mag with me shooting Wolf steel. Tried 2 rounds a couple of times, worked great. Put 5 in, still worked great. Filled the mag and it ran like a charm. Ran probably 100 or a few more thru it with no problems. This will be fun as I have 7 cases of the stuff I bought ~20 years ago for $66/k shipped. Ran mine for the first time this weekend with my 10.5" PSA 7.62x39 upper and 16" 5.56 upper both with my new sandman X. Both ran perfect with the H3 buffer. 
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This is v1. There is no v2 yet. Edit. To elaborate, all us unlucky batch 1/2 buyers got a really slippery safety lever that was hard to use and really just terrible, and then sold us a 50$ lever with some actual texture. This is the v1 with selectors that have some texture to make it easier to actuate without having to jump through hoops to make sure your fingers aren’t wet etc. I like the product but I have to say the Atrius felt much nicer to use out of the box and is considerably cheaper considering I paid 300 for an ARC with textured selectors. Typical growing pains for a new company and as with any gen 1 product, it’s never going to be as good as future revisions just how it goes and I’m happy with my gen 1 ARCs. |
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@HKH what are the odds that this will run 1st try? Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By ar556223: @HKH what are the odds that this will run 1st try? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/75757/Screenshot_2026-03-02_213716_jpg-3722513.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/75757/Screenshot_2026-03-02_213918_jpg-3722514.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/75757/Screenshot_2026-03-02_214048_jpg-3722515.JPG Looks a lot like the 2 I cut that work. Slap an upper on there and function check. You’ll know if you put it in frt mode, pin the trigger back and rack the charging handle a few times. |
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Originally Posted By ar556223: @HKH what are the odds that this will run 1st try? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/75757/Screenshot_2026-03-02_213716_jpg-3722513.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/75757/Screenshot_2026-03-02_213918_jpg-3722514.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/75757/Screenshot_2026-03-02_214048_jpg-3722515.JPG I think your cooking with Crisco now my man 
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Took mine out to test it today and it ran flawlessly for the 68rds I took out with me. Standard carbine spring and H3 buffer, didn't try any other combo. I remembered now why I don't shoot USGI triggers anymore, they suck compared to the G$ triggers. I do have the lever blocker coming in case I ever want to pair it with the good trigger. My one complaint is I need the long selector on the right side and it's doesn't appear you can do that with the supplied parts. You can buy extras from AS but I'm not spending $30 for a pack of two levers. It was fun to try but I ended up taking it back out when I got home. I can't afford to feed the gun enough ammo to get profecient with the fast mode and in my area it's going to draw a bunch of unwanted attention due to having neighbors within a mile every direction. My buddy that lives 12 miles away called me and said he could hear me from his front porch . So for now it's going to be regulated to SHTF
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Originally Posted By HKH: I don’t recommend the jig. Keep rear height .300 and midpoint .310 on the modified trigger and you’re golden. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99571/IMG_9788-3701707.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99571/IMG_9787-3701706.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99571/IMG_9783-3701685.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99571/IMG_9782-3701684.jpg Thank you so much for these pics. These saved me some time and money. I finally pulled my ARC out of the Leber lower, installed it into my AR, and cut a SSA trigger to work with it. Took me about 3 hours because my rotary tool broke and I had to use my all of my wheels and stones in a drill. Bench function works superbly, the timing is very clean. I will have to get out and live fire function test it here before long. With the G$ trigger these are bar-none the best FRT on the market. Great job ASD and S3igu2. |
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Originally Posted By country_boy87: I haven't tried mine yet, but Im curious with practice can a person stop and start the arc fire frt instead of just ripping off 30 rds worth? A lot of the videos I see people just do that. Effortlessly, yes. This isn't like the bumpstocks of 8 years ago. It's 99% of the functionality of a transferrable machine gun. |
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Originally Posted By ELittlefield: Effortlessly, yes. This isn't like the bumpstocks of 8 years ago. It's 99% of the functionality of a transferrable machine gun. Originally Posted By ELittlefield: Originally Posted By country_boy87: I haven't tried mine yet, but Im curious with practice can a person stop and start the arc fire frt instead of just ripping off 30 rds worth? A lot of the videos I see people just do that. Effortlessly, yes. This isn't like the bumpstocks of 8 years ago. It's 99% of the functionality of a transferrable machine gun. Better if you get a G trigger. The regular semi quality is a big + |
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Originally Posted By country_boy87: I haven't tried mine yet, but Im curious with practice can a person stop and start the arc fire frt instead of just ripping off 30 rds worth? A lot of the videos I see people just do that. First time out with mine. I didn’t want to mag dump and put rounds into the ceiling, but you can dump a mag or squeeze off a few at a time. Geissele SD-E and ARC Fire  January 27, 2026 |
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Originally Posted By HKH: I think your cooking with Crisco now my man Originally Posted By HKH: Originally Posted By ar556223: @HKH what are the odds that this will run 1st try? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/75757/Screenshot_2026-03-02_213716_jpg-3722513.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/75757/Screenshot_2026-03-02_213918_jpg-3722514.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/75757/Screenshot_2026-03-02_214048_jpg-3722515.JPG I think your cooking with Crisco now my man I almost dont want to install the G$ after cutting it, the mil trigger that came with the ARC is not bad - consistently just under 3lbs on my cheap Lyman gauge, after about 3 mags. |
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Originally Posted By krdt: Not wanting to accuse, but a guy with a single post and a join date of yesterday, advertising a sketchy site with a product ASD hasn't even released on their own site... seems more than a little suspect. Been lurking for a while, finally wanted to join the convo. Bought tools from suppressor tools for my cans for years, so jumped on it when they emailed their customers with the presale. |
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Originally Posted By Slickg66: Been lurking for a while, finally wanted to join the convo. Bought tools from suppressor tools for my cans for years, so jumped on it when they emailed their customers with the presale. https://us11.campaign-archive.com/?e=398a01b967&u=6620c44ab22a2d1c2ad8865e1&id=73481c1743 Originally Posted By Slickg66: Originally Posted By krdt: Not wanting to accuse, but a guy with a single post and a join date of yesterday, advertising a sketchy site with a product ASD hasn't even released on their own site... seems more than a little suspect. Been lurking for a while, finally wanted to join the convo. Bought tools from suppressor tools for my cans for years, so jumped on it when they emailed their customers with the presale. https://us11.campaign-archive.com/?e=398a01b967&u=6620c44ab22a2d1c2ad8865e1&id=73481c1743 Again, they don't seem to be selling a V2 as you claimed. |
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Alright, $199 shipped and everyone’s experiences here has convinced me to upgrade from the basic Hoffman style SS…. Have plenty of experience with regular F/A AR selectors so I prefer to stick with what I know at 90/180 degrees of throw. (Nothing can be worse than an HK G36 safe/single/burst/auto selector anyhow). Not sure that the V2 has anything I want except the ability to skip the ambi style, which I would prefer as I run my thumb on the left side when I shoot lefty anyhow. But I don’t want to wait, nor pay the full retail, especially if they basically work the same, so I will just run an ambi. The Hoffman style has been flat out 100% from day one in my 11.5” SBR, and also works great in an AR9 SBR after getting a 10 oz KAK buffer, so I have high hopes these will be great in the same guns. While I am good with decent single stage triggers and use an ALG ACT in many guns, I like the ability to use it with nicer triggers as well (I got the shelf block for future upgrading possibility). Thanks for helping me spend money, once again….. |
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Originally Posted By ar556223: I almost dont want to install the G$ after cutting it, the mil trigger that came with the ARC is not bad - consistently just under 3lbs on my cheap Lyman gauge, after about 3 mags. Bro Just no I just cut a SSAE-X last night and holy hell. I’ve got SSA, SDC, SDE and G2$ but I’ve never experienced anything like that… I’m buying that trigger for EVERY SINGLE GUN. Well maybe not every but at least for my top 10 ARs. There’s nothing like that. |
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Originally Posted By HKH: Bro Just no I just cut a SSAE-X last night and holy hell. I’ve got SSA, SDC, SDE and G2$ but I’ve never experienced anything like that… I’m buying that trigger for EVERY SINGLE GUN. Well maybe not every but at least for my top 10 ARs. There’s nothing like that. Originally Posted By HKH: Originally Posted By ar556223: I almost dont want to install the G$ after cutting it, the mil trigger that came with the ARC is not bad - consistently just under 3lbs on my cheap Lyman gauge, after about 3 mags. Bro Just no I just cut a SSAE-X last night and holy hell. I’ve got SSA, SDC, SDE and G2$ but I’ve never experienced anything like that… I’m buying that trigger for EVERY SINGLE GUN. Well maybe not every but at least for my top 10 ARs. There’s nothing like that. Yea, I like the SSAE-X with the SSA-X springs |
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