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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:55:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: campower]
These guys been running 6 ARC hard since release, and as much as I troll them, I this is very sound and proven advice from hunters. Guys using crap in the field, not just the flat range.
 The Best & Worst 6 Arc Mags | TPH 12 Minute Talks |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:53:45 AM EDT
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I’ve got 15-20 of the 15rd AR Stoner 6 ARC specific mags. No idea who the OEM is, but they’ve all been flawless through 1000-1500rds.
Just picked up a G$ 20 rounder to try out. I’m sure it’ll work fine as well. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 2:57:42 AM EDT
[#2]
Neat. I assume this also applies to 6.5 Grendel?
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:08:21 AM EDT
[#3]
You know I just ordered a barrel. How fortuitous
 I had got some Duramags from Big Tex to try. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:29:21 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WUPHF: I’ve got 15-20 of the 15rd AR Stoner 6 ARC specific mags. No idea who the OEM is, but they’ve all been flawless through 1000-1500rds. Just picked up a G$ 20 rounder to try out. I’m sure it’ll work fine as well. Seems like the 15-20rd mags don't give folks grief like the 24+ round mags do, based on my loose following of multiple forums as a 6.5G AR owner. Those G mags had better be the cats ass, based on their price. |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:31:21 PM EDT
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I stick to shorter mags, partially for the above reason.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:24:32 PM EDT
[#6]
I've run 6.5 grendel for almost a decade and have a pile of 17rd e-lander mags that never fail .
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Posted: 4/28/2024 12:42:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AEROMechanic]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: Seems like the 15-20rd mags don't give folks grief like the 24+ round mags do, based on my loose following of multiple forums as a 6.5G AR owner. . Yep. Definitely the ARC's weak spot. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 1:59:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9D1Alpha]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AEROMechanic: Yep. Definitely the ARC's weak spot. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AEROMechanic: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: Seems like the 15-20rd mags don't give folks grief like the 24+ round mags do, based on my loose following of multiple forums as a 6.5G AR owner. . Yep. Definitely the ARC's weak spot. You can run 25-45 and 277 wolverine in any std mag including drums. Cheap brass to boot . * totally forgot the 6x45 . Then there is 300blk and 300hamr in 300blk mags. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:36:21 PM EDT
[#9]
 No problem with Geissele or ASC magazines of any capacity. I have 3 6ARC rifles (18”, 14.5”, 12”) I’ve found the real problem with failure to feed issues has been the BCGs. Switching to CMC suppressor optimized BCGs solved all my problems. |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 2:42:13 PM EDT
[#10]
I don't need a 6 ARC, I don't need a 6 ARC....
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Posted: 5/21/2024 3:10:41 PM EDT
[#11]
Wait till Magpul drops their mag.
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Posted: Yesterday 10:23:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mechanicuss]
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3one5: I don't need a 6 ARC, I don't need a 6 ARC.... This thread applies to 22 ARC also, right? |
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Posted: Yesterday 10:35:57 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FRBaseball: Wait till Magpul drops their mag. No thanks. Thicker polymer mags for cartridges like 6.5G and the ARCs would be a step backwards. These cartridges shine b/c of the short/fat case body and short neck, allowing for longer, higher BC, bullets to be used. A polymer mag has to be thicker than metal, and eats into the available cartridge overall length. The only polymer 6.5G mag I'm aware of isn't all that great, per reviews here and elsewhere. Now, if Magpul is going to get into the metal rifle mag space like they did with their Sig mags, that would be a whole other kettle of fish... |
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CA, USA
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Posted: Yesterday 10:38:50 AM EDT
[#14]
The Duramag metal mags for the 6.5 Grendel work for the 6 ARC and 22 ARC
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NC, USA
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Posted: Yesterday 11:01:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9D1Alpha]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: No thanks. Thicker polymer mags for cartridges like 6.5G and the ARCs would be a step backwards. These cartridges shine b/c of the short/fat case body and short neck, allowing for longer, higher BC, bullets to be used. A polymer mag has to be thicker than metal, and eats into the available cartridge overall length. The only polymer 6.5G mag I'm aware of isn't all that great, per reviews here and elsewhere. Now, if Magpul is going to get into the metal rifle mag space like they did with their Sig mags, that would be a whole other kettle of fish... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: Originally Posted By FRBaseball: Wait till Magpul drops their mag. No thanks. Thicker polymer mags for cartridges like 6.5G and the ARCs would be a step backwards. These cartridges shine b/c of the short/fat case body and short neck, allowing for longer, higher BC, bullets to be used. A polymer mag has to be thicker than metal, and eats into the available cartridge overall length. The only polymer 6.5G mag I'm aware of isn't all that great, per reviews here and elsewhere. Now, if Magpul is going to get into the metal rifle mag space like they did with their Sig mags, that would be a whole other kettle of fish... I think in order for them to do a polymer mag they'd have to do like the Barrett six8 and make a larger magwell. That was able to come about from sizeable contracts . Maybe get the Serbians on board and PSA to bring steel case back ....and a six5 lower ...maybe FM and their monolithic bbl with oversized extension and fat bolt ? |
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Posted: Yesterday 11:23:54 AM EDT
[#16]
I have had no issues with Elander through two rifles. Suppressed the rifles are very dirty and I do have to spray the mags out occasionally if the follower gets sticky. I don't consider this the mags fault.
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Posted: Yesterday 11:35:45 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: No thanks. Thicker polymer mags for cartridges like 6.5G and the ARCs would be a step backwards. These cartridges shine b/c of the short/fat case body and short neck, allowing for longer, higher BC, bullets to be used. A polymer mag has to be thicker than metal, and eats into the available cartridge overall length. The only polymer 6.5G mag I'm aware of isn't all that great, per reviews here and elsewhere. Now, if Magpul is going to get into the metal rifle mag space like they did with their Sig mags, that would be a whole other kettle of fish... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: Originally Posted By FRBaseball: Wait till Magpul drops their mag. No thanks. Thicker polymer mags for cartridges like 6.5G and the ARCs would be a step backwards. These cartridges shine b/c of the short/fat case body and short neck, allowing for longer, higher BC, bullets to be used. A polymer mag has to be thicker than metal, and eats into the available cartridge overall length. The only polymer 6.5G mag I'm aware of isn't all that great, per reviews here and elsewhere. Now, if Magpul is going to get into the metal rifle mag space like they did with their Sig mags, that would be a whole other kettle of fish... This |
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Posted: Yesterday 12:06:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: No thanks. Thicker polymer mags for cartridges like 6.5G and the ARCs would be a step backwards. These cartridges shine b/c of the short/fat case body and short neck, allowing for longer, higher BC, bullets to be used. A polymer mag has to be thicker than metal, and eats into the available cartridge overall length. The only polymer 6.5G mag I'm aware of isn't all that great, per reviews here and elsewhere. Now, if Magpul is going to get into the metal rifle mag space like they did with their Sig mags, that would be a whole other kettle of fish... The new mag is polymer. The new gun that goes along with it is metal. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: Yesterday 1:09:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FRBaseball: The new mag is polymer. The new gun that goes along with it is metal. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FRBaseball: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: No thanks. Thicker polymer mags for cartridges like 6.5G and the ARCs would be a step backwards. These cartridges shine b/c of the short/fat case body and short neck, allowing for longer, higher BC, bullets to be used. A polymer mag has to be thicker than metal, and eats into the available cartridge overall length. The only polymer 6.5G mag I'm aware of isn't all that great, per reviews here and elsewhere. Now, if Magpul is going to get into the metal rifle mag space like they did with their Sig mags, that would be a whole other kettle of fish... The new mag is polymer. The new gun that goes along with it is metal. Do you have a link for this mag? I'm a grendel shooter , would love some more options. |
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Posted: Yesterday 1:43:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lazyengineer]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Do you have a link for this mag? I'm a grendel shooter , would love some more options. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Originally Posted By FRBaseball: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: No thanks. Thicker polymer mags for cartridges like 6.5G and the ARCs would be a step backwards. These cartridges shine b/c of the short/fat case body and short neck, allowing for longer, higher BC, bullets to be used. A polymer mag has to be thicker than metal, and eats into the available cartridge overall length. The only polymer 6.5G mag I'm aware of isn't all that great, per reviews here and elsewhere. Now, if Magpul is going to get into the metal rifle mag space like they did with their Sig mags, that would be a whole other kettle of fish... The new mag is polymer. The new gun that goes along with it is metal. Do you have a link for this mag? I'm a grendel shooter , would love some more options. Indeed - I'm curious how they made the dimensions work if restricted to AR15 magwel dimensions. Rounds wont stack right double stacked, if thick walled plastic. Of course. Now that we have SFAR, that changes many things.... |
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Posted: Yesterday 2:39:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lazyengineer: Indeed - I'm curious how they made the definitions work if restricted to AR15 magwel dimensions. Rounds would stack right double stacked, if thick walled plastic. Of course. Now that we have SFAR, that changes many things.... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lazyengineer: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Originally Posted By FRBaseball: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: No thanks. Thicker polymer mags for cartridges like 6.5G and the ARCs would be a step backwards. These cartridges shine b/c of the short/fat case body and short neck, allowing for longer, higher BC, bullets to be used. A polymer mag has to be thicker than metal, and eats into the available cartridge overall length. The only polymer 6.5G mag I'm aware of isn't all that great, per reviews here and elsewhere. Now, if Magpul is going to get into the metal rifle mag space like they did with their Sig mags, that would be a whole other kettle of fish... The new mag is polymer. The new gun that goes along with it is metal. Do you have a link for this mag? I'm a grendel shooter , would love some more options. Indeed - I'm curious how they made the definitions work if restricted to AR15 magwel dimensions. Rounds would stack right double stacked, if thick walled plastic. Of course. Now that we have SFAR, that changes many things.... Yep, I love my Grendels but the SFAR has cracked the stagnant ar15 envelope wide open . |
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Posted: Yesterday 2:54:04 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Yep, I love my Grendels but the SFAR has cracked the stagnant ar15 envelope wide open . I'm not so sure yet. They don't seem to be quite as reliable as the large frame AR. |
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Posted: Yesterday 2:55:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lazyengineer]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Yep, I love my Grendels but the SFAR has cracked the stagnant ar15 envelope wide open . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Originally Posted By lazyengineer: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Originally Posted By FRBaseball: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: No thanks. Thicker polymer mags for cartridges like 6.5G and the ARCs would be a step backwards. These cartridges shine b/c of the short/fat case body and short neck, allowing for longer, higher BC, bullets to be used. A polymer mag has to be thicker than metal, and eats into the available cartridge overall length. The only polymer 6.5G mag I'm aware of isn't all that great, per reviews here and elsewhere. Now, if Magpul is going to get into the metal rifle mag space like they did with their Sig mags, that would be a whole other kettle of fish... The new mag is polymer. The new gun that goes along with it is metal. Do you have a link for this mag? I'm a grendel shooter , would love some more options. Indeed - I'm curious how they made the definitions work if restricted to AR15 magwel dimensions. Rounds would stack right double stacked, if thick walled plastic. Of course. Now that we have SFAR, that changes many things.... Yep, I love my Grendels but the SFAR has cracked the stagnant ar15 envelope wide open . I picked up a 20" SFAR in 6.5 CM. It weighs less than my 20" 6.5Grendel AR, and has the same dimensions. And recoil is mild and pleasant. And it shoots MOA level, (but is ammo particular to do it) My 6.5 Grendle SBR,'s I'll probably keep, but that 20" Grendel unit is getting pretty redundant. Especially consider grendel necks crack fast, while I don't think I've ever cracked a 6.5 CM casing, and 6.5CM brass on-ground is more common now than .308 brass is even. Similarly, 6mm ARC relevancy is about to get questionable as soon as a $900 6mm CM SFAR comes out. Plastic 6mm CM Mags are .308 PMags |
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