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Posted: 12/25/2020 12:58:07 AM EST
Planning on going coyote hunting for my first time out of state soon. I have 2 rifles to choose from...a 16" psa midlength with a 1-6x, or a bergara 6.5 creedmoor. I know ammo is hard to find right now, but all I have for my AR is 223 and 556fmj, 62gr green tip, or a small box of 10 year old 55gr vmax. I would like to buy a few boxes of something new. What should I look for?
Link Posted: 12/25/2020 1:38:06 AM EST
So many things work. Lighter grain polymer tip stuff works best, but I’ve killed them just fine with about whatever from heavy grain .223 to 7.62x39. I’d try not to overthink it, at the end of the day it’s just a small dog.
Link Posted: 12/25/2020 2:04:18 AM EST
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Idk what you have for glass on the creed, or where you are hunting,, but a 1-6 wouldn't cut it here. Ive killed them past 600, and 223 sucks at longer range too. Creed all day for me.  Most of us inn my area use 22-250 or 243.
Link Posted: 12/25/2020 2:35:58 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Glock63:
Idk what you have for glass on the creed, or where you are hunting,, but a 1-6 wouldn't cut it here. Ive killed them past 600, and 223 sucks at longer range too. Creed all day for me.  Most of us inn my area use 22-250 or 243.
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See that shows how much geography matters in these things. I had a 3-15 when I first went out and quickly found out I had way too much scope for coyotes in OK. Even a 4X feels like too much half the time. My average shot is maybe 50m.
Link Posted: 12/25/2020 3:16:37 AM EST
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Originally Posted By doty_soty:

See that shows how much geography matters in these things. I had a 3-15 when I first went out and quickly found out I had way too much scope for coyotes in OK. Even a 4X feels like too much half the time. My average shot is maybe 50m.
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For sure. Havent been out since last week, but my last kill was a touch over 300 on a trot. Not a terribly hard shot, but the wind was nonexistent that am too.  That being said, I killed a lot of the damn things with a 60 grain vmax loaded hot out of an 18 inch ar15.  Gets pretty tough past 300 though, especially when the wind is active
Link Posted: 12/25/2020 6:08:14 AM EST
Originally Posted By PorkchopSandwhiches:

Planning on going coyote hunting for my first time
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What does Coyote taste like?..Do you cook the tenderloin or grind hamburger?
Link Posted: 12/25/2020 6:35:36 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Chatsworth:


What does Coyote taste like?..Do you cook the tenderloin or grind hamburger?
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On one of the Meateater shows they ate one.

OP, I would are the one that is the most accurate.
Doesn’t take much to kill one.
Link Posted: 12/25/2020 8:43:40 AM EST
I’ve used m193 up to 77 grain bthp stuff, it all works well
Link Posted: 12/25/2020 10:23:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Glock63:
Idk what you have for glass on the creed, or where you are hunting,, but a 1-6 wouldn't cut it here. Ive killed them past 600, and 223 sucks at longer range too. Creed all day for me.  Most of us inn my area use 22-250 or 243.
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Southern Indiana. Won’t be any shots out past 150 yards max.
Link Posted: 12/25/2020 11:35:34 AM EST
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I shoot all kinds of shit with M193 on the farm. It'll kill.


Long range (200 yrds or more) 55 V-max is deadly and accurate.
Link Posted: 12/25/2020 12:23:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PorkchopSandwhiches:

Southern Indiana. Won’t be any shots out past 150 yards max.
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Oh you will be fine then. Id probably use your ar with the vmax ammo if you can locate any
Link Posted: 12/25/2020 1:37:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Glock63:

Oh you will be fine then. Id probably use your ar with the vmax ammo if you can locate any
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I have maybe 100 rounds of some left over USA 55gr vmax that’s probably 10 years old. Tons of m193 though
Link Posted: 12/25/2020 3:21:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PorkchopSandwhiches:

Southern Indiana. Won’t be any shots out past 150 yards max.
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You'll be in my neck of the woods. Here it's mostly wooded hills with smaller fields. You'd actually have to really go out of your way to get a 300 yard shot.  Any half decent expanding bullet will work well if you put it in the right spot. 55 and 64 grain soft points are what I use but if you want the hides then use a light hollow point. Longest shot I've had the last 3 years was a tad over 200.
Link Posted: 12/25/2020 3:22:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PorkchopSandwhiches:

I have maybe 100 rounds of some left over USA 55gr vmax that’s probably 10 years old. Tons of m193 though
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I'd go with the vmax, excellent bullet for yotes.
Link Posted: 12/25/2020 3:38:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PorkchopSandwhiches:

I have maybe 100 rounds of some left over USA 55gr vmax that’s probably 10 years old. Tons of m193 though
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No reason they shouldn't be fine.  I doubt you will expend more than 8 to 10 rounds a day. They drop coyotes nicely.
Link Posted: 12/28/2020 1:03:18 AM EST
If it is a push, then I would go with the VMax.

They won't go far after a hit with one from inside of 300 yards. They are not as large a target as some folks think especially if they are moving.
Link Posted: 12/28/2020 10:21:57 PM EST
Any of those rounds will do.  If you can get a hkt on target.  Those guys are quick.  Amd smart.  Usually never see them coming and gone before you get a chance
Link Posted: 12/31/2020 12:01:03 AM EST
Shot placement is what really counts.
Link Posted: 12/31/2020 12:15:25 AM EST
53 grain vmax will kill them dead inside 200 yards in my experience
Link Posted: 12/31/2020 12:31:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Wespe:
53 grain vmax will kill them dead inside 200 yards in my experience
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^^This. Vmax is a very solid bullet for Coyotes. They expand quick but song dogs are neither very big nor all that tough.
Link Posted: 12/31/2020 1:31:41 PM EST
1-4x and 55gr vmax works fine
Link Posted: 12/31/2020 1:37:55 PM EST
Cheap range fodder and send um. 35lb dogs don’t do well with anything in them.
Link Posted: 1/3/2021 11:29:47 AM EST
Another vote for use whatever you have or can find. At <200yds pretty much any centerfire will kill them with a hit to the vitals.

Since you have 100rds of vmax, I'd use those. Shoot a couple on paper to verify POI.

I have really good luck with vmax bullets on paper. Yet to shoot anything with them though.

I did catch a yote at about 10yds with my 350L a couple weeks ago. Absolutely tore her up, huge mess. 9mm in, half dollar out. Also sent another half dollar chunk of sternum out. Made it about 3 steps and keeled over. 165gr FTX.
Link Posted: 1/3/2021 3:09:41 PM EST
Daylight both are good.

During a hunt a few weeks ago though lost two night hunting with m855. They were hit good.  But no blood trail and lost them along a river bank.
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