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2/6/2019 5:49:53 PM EDT
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Glad I got 2 cases yesterday-though it shows "completed" but not "shipped" which is slow for Sam (he get's it gone usually under 24 hours). Hope I actually got them.

My bad-got a shipping # at 3:06-I want to try this out against some of the 56 grain Swiss I got 10-15 years ago. Crappy wounding ability-great accuracy. Typical Swiss.
2/6/2019 11:47:27 PM EDT
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My LGS has copius amounts.  $303 including shipping and with state sales tax.

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2/7/2019 12:15:33 AM EDT
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do they do online orders? will they sell by the 180rd box?
2/7/2019 6:31:04 AM EDT
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Unfortunately they don't.  The two shops are in lower NY, close enough for PA or NJ residence to stop by.

I've seen some 180 count boxes behind the counter.  Its not cost effective to buy it this way.  I think it was over $70.  Cabela's has this too in the mid $60s
2/7/2019 12:15:56 PM EDT
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Link to Cabelas?

It seems that more and more venders are getting this in stock now.  Before it was only a handful (cheaperthandirt, LAX, Sam).
2/7/2019 12:24:03 PM EDT
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Its not available anymore on SG ammo. Crazy it was there yesterday.
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I think I bought the last of their stock. I had a window open getting ready to order a case and suddenly it was gone. a quick search of thier site showed the 180 rd boxes but no case quantities. I was able to buy 720 rds but that was it.

If anyone finds another on line retailer with stock please post it up.

Edit: A quick search shows Lucky Gunner and CTD both have it, but .38 or more per round.
2/7/2019 1:43:55 PM EDT
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I think I bought the last of their stock. I had a window open getting ready to order a case and suddenly it was gone. a quick search of thier site showed the 180 rd boxes but no case quantities. I was able to buy 720 rds but that was it.

If anyone finds another on line retailer with stock please post it up.

Edit: A quick search shows Lucky Gunner and CTD both have it, but .38 or more per round.
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Its not available anymore on SG ammo. Crazy it was there yesterday.
I think I bought the last of their stock. I had a window open getting ready to order a case and suddenly it was gone. a quick search of thier site showed the 180 rd boxes but no case quantities. I was able to buy 720 rds but that was it.

If anyone finds another on line retailer with stock please post it up.

Edit: A quick search shows Lucky Gunner and CTD both have it, but .38 or more per round.
LuckGunner and ammunitiontogo.com are the only ones online im currently aware of, but both are charging a tad under 40 cents a round.

Honestly - that's a more appropriate price for this stuff.  Compared to other ammo that's near match quality, boxer primed, brass case, OTM bullets.
2/7/2019 2:04:15 PM EDT
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They were stocked as 180 count boxes on the floor in the store.
2/7/2019 8:37:02 PM EDT
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My LGS has copius amounts.  $303 including shipping and state sales tax.

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Including shipping? So do they do phone orders? Im in PA, could make the trip but wouldn't mind not having to.
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2/7/2019 9:54:49 PM EDT
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Including shipping? So do they do phone orders? Im in PA, could make the trip but wouldn't mind not having to.
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My mistake, they do not sell online.  Price is with state sales tax.  If you get near the Delaware River where PA/NY/NJ meet around Port Jervis, you're not too far from their Goshen store.
2/7/2019 9:57:01 PM EDT
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Only thing i found online at Cabelas is the FMJ version in the same looking box.

https://www.cabelas.com/product/shooting/ammunition/rifle-ammunition/pc/104792580/c/104691780/sc/104532480/winchester-rd-range-pack/2245862.uts?slotId=9
2/7/2019 10:57:07 PM EDT
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My mistake, they do not sell online.  Price is with state sales tax.  If you get near the Delaware River where PA/NY/NJ meet around Port Jervis, you're not too far from their Goshen store.
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Good stuff. Will be calling them tomorrow. Thanks!
2/8/2019 3:38:02 PM EDT
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This looks interesting, pretty good accuracy at half the price of the 77gr match ammo
2/8/2019 4:03:56 PM EDT
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yes, nice to have cheaper ammo that is decently accurate. another one to consider is the prvi 75gr match.
2/8/2019 5:40:58 PM EDT
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Back in stock at SG. Said 16 left before I purchased 2. Now I don't have to drive to NY!
2/8/2019 6:20:59 PM EDT
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Just grabbed 5
2/8/2019 6:47:38 PM EDT
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5 boxes or 5 cases?
2/8/2019 6:48:58 PM EDT
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Got the email this afternoon.

SGammo inventory always changes,doesnt mean that is all he has.

Ordering a case after dinner
2/8/2019 6:54:42 PM EDT
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cases, 4500 rounds
2/8/2019 9:12:48 PM EDT
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I'm poor... Just ordered a box... Along with some bricks of federal tac low recoil buckshot and slugs...

If my beast will eat this winny then I'll order a lot more!
2/8/2019 9:20:37 PM EDT
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That's what attracted this to me.  Poor mans equivalent to 77 gr BTHP, giving up some accuracy while making it cost effective to shoot on a regular basis.
2/9/2019 12:56:40 AM EDT
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My order from SGAmmo arrived today.  Looks good.

One thing I don't understand is the LOT numbers.  I searched all over the outer case box, and then each of the 180 round range packs with no luck.  Finally found a stamp impressed number (no ink, just indented) on each of the 30 round internal boxes.  The number does not match any Olin or Winchester lot number patterns I am aware of.

Does anyone know how to interpret "170295 09-27"?  Does this provide clues about date of manufacture or Swedish company name?
2/10/2019 12:02:27 AM EDT
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Back in stock at SG ammo
2/10/2019 12:26:58 PM EDT
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I will be REALLY happy when this dries up.... so I can transition from the uncontrollable desire to order more, into a more typical regret for not ordering more after its gone.

This transitional period sucks.  
2/10/2019 7:26:20 PM EDT
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Well ya'll talked me into it. I ordered a case to try out. I figured I better get some before it is gone. I really did not need to spend the money as I just bought a case of 45 ACP, but I figured if I did not get some now, I may not get a chance to try it. I wish I could have ordered more, but it sucks being not rich.
2/10/2019 7:30:49 PM EDT
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im resisting the urger to order a few more cases, those terminal ballistics and accuracy for the price of 55gr plinking ammo
2/10/2019 7:39:39 PM EDT
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This transitional period sucks.  
im resisting the urger to order a few more cases, those terminal ballistics and accuracy for the price of 55gr plinking ammo
If you really think about it - the last time we saw ammo that was brass cased, boxer primed, near match grade accuracy, non-FMJ, and priced like plinking ammo was the AE223GTV 50gr VMAX load that PSA blew out.  I am afraid this might even be a better deal than that - given the higher BC of these projectiles added to the list.  Adjusted for inflation, this might be the best deal I have ever seen, since I start shooting AR's 20 years ago....

And it is killing me.
2/10/2019 9:46:53 PM EDT
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If you really think about it - the last time we saw ammo that was brass cased, boxer primed, near match grade accuracy, non-FMJ, and priced like plinking ammo was the AE223GTV 55gr VMAX load that PSA blew out.  I am afraid this might even be a better deal than that - given the higher BC of these projectiles added to the list.  Adjusted for inflation, this might be the best deal I have ever seen, since I start shooting AR's 20 years ago....

And it is killing me.
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I will be REALLY happy when this dries up.... so I can transition from the uncontrollable desire to order more, into a more typical regret for not ordering more after its gone.

This transitional period sucks.  
im resisting the urger to order a few more cases, those terminal ballistics and accuracy for the price of 55gr plinking ammo
If you really think about it - the last time we saw ammo that was brass cased, boxer primed, near match grade accuracy, non-FMJ, and priced like plinking ammo was the AE223GTV 55gr VMAX load that PSA blew out.  I am afraid this might even be a better deal than that - given the higher BC of these projectiles added to the list.  Adjusted for inflation, this might be the best deal I have ever seen, since I start shooting AR's 20 years ago....

And it is killing me.
This is what my mind is telling me as well and i cant convince myself not to order as much as i feel comfortable before it goes out of stock for good

Ordered 3 cases just because

2/10/2019 10:15:21 PM EDT
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Ordered 3 cases just because

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I was staring at my cart all night, just said fuck it and ordered a few more. Ammo of this quality at its current price it's a no brainer

STACK IT DEEP
2/10/2019 10:23:52 PM EDT
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I was staring at my cart all night, just said fuck it and ordered a few more. Ammo of this quality at its current price it's a no brainer

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This is what my mind is telling me as well and i cant convince myself not to order as much as i feel comfortable before it goes out of stock for good

Ordered 3 cases just because

I was staring at my cart all night, just said fuck it and ordered a few more. Ammo of this quality at its current price it's a no brainer

STACK IT DEEP
Lol. My cart has been adjusted about 10 times in the past few days.When its cheaper than my usual Wolf Gold purchases it would be dumb not to buy this stuff.

So far i am in at 4 cases total. Gonna need to buy another Ridgid job box to put this stuff into as my other one is full.

Your up to what 7 cases now



2/10/2019 10:36:39 PM EDT
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Lol. My cart has been adjusted about 10 times in the past few days.When its cheaper than my usual Wolf Gold purchases it would be dumb not to buy this stuff.

So far i am in at 4 cases total. Gonna need to buy another Ridgid job box to put this stuff into as my other one is full.

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I’m in the double digits now

I actually remember buying some of that super cheap 55gr varmint tip that PSA had years ago and always regretted not stacking more of it...not making that mistake again
2/10/2019 10:51:18 PM EDT
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I’m in the double digits now

I actually remember buying some of that super cheap 55gr varmint tip that PSA had years ago and always regretted not stacking more of it...not making that mistake again
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Lol. My cart has been adjusted about 10 times in the past few days.When its cheaper than my usual Wolf Gold purchases it would be dumb not to buy this stuff.

So far i am in at 4 cases total. Gonna need to buy another Ridgid job box to put this stuff into as my other one is full.

Your up to what 7 cases now



I’m in the double digits now

I actually remember buying some of that super cheap 55gr varmint tip that PSA had years ago and always regretted not stacking more of it...not making that mistake again
Nice. You should be set for awhile.

Yeah I got in on that federal 50 grain varmint tip as well from PSA. Still have 2500-3000 of it left. Very accurate ammo that was dirt cheap and wish I had bought more too
2/10/2019 10:54:02 PM EDT
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Nice. You should be set for awhile.

Yeah I got in on that federal 50 grain varmint tip as well from PSA. Still have 2500-3000 of it left. Very accurate ammo that was dirt cheap and wish I had bought more too
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I should have bought more. Think I have about 500 left now.
2/10/2019 11:04:53 PM EDT
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FYI, this is a new product line by Winchester and not a limited production run.  It should be around for a while.
2/10/2019 11:07:39 PM EDT
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I want to believe.

Cite your source please.
2/10/2019 11:47:17 PM EDT
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Experience and common sense.
2/11/2019 12:02:49 AM EDT
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Got it.  So you have no idea.
2/11/2019 12:59:42 AM EDT
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I really want to enjoy this ammo like everyone here, but it is not performing too well...

I went ahead and tested 2 more rifles using existing stash I have this weekend and found it a bit disappointing, again.
The rifles being Steyr AUG with 1:9 16" FN made barrel, and the RECCE Mk12 style 1:7 16" Bison Armory SPR profile SS barrel.

Neither one were able to consistently do under 2.5 MOA at 100 yards, 10rd group.
With Norma 55gr FMJ, the AUG is a 2MOA gun, and the RECCE being 1.5MOA.
I mentioned earlier on page 1 in this thread that my Colt A4 was doing around 3.5MOA 10rd group and Zenith Z43P doing around 2MOA.

As of now the Winchester 5.56 62gr OT is truly just OT, and not OTM... it is unfortunate for me that it is missing that 'match' quality.
2/11/2019 1:01:42 AM EDT
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I really want to enjoy this ammo like everyone here, but it is not performing too well...

I went ahead and tested 2 more rifles using existing stash I have this weekend and found it a bit disappointing, again.
The rifles being Steyr AUG with 1:9 16" FN made barrel, and the RECCE Mk12 style 1:7 16" Bison Armory SPR profile SS barrel.

Neither one were able to consistently do under 2.5 MOA at 100 yards, 10rd group.
With Norma 55gr FMJ, the AUG is a 2MOA gun, and the RECCE being 1.5MOA.
I mentioned earlier on page 1 in this thread that my Colt A4 was doing around 3.5MOA 10rd group and Zenith Z43P doing around 2MOA.
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Yikes.  That’s not great.  And not consistent with the admittedly very limited reviews we have thus far, although promising.
2/11/2019 1:04:53 AM EDT
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I really want to enjoy this ammo like everyone here, but it is not performing too well...

I went ahead and tested 2 more rifles using existing stash I have this weekend and found it a bit disappointing, again.
The rifles being Steyr AUG with 1:9 16" FN made barrel, and the RECCE Mk12 style 1:7 16" Bison Armory SPR profile SS barrel.

Neither one were able to consistently do under 2.5 MOA at 100 yards, 10rd group.
With Norma 55gr FMJ, the AUG is a 2MOA gun, and the RECCE being 1.5MOA.
I mentioned earlier on page 1 in this thread that my Colt A4 was doing around 3.5MOA 10rd group and Zenith Z43P doing around 2MOA.
Yikes.  That’s not great.  And not consistent with the admittedly very limited reviews we have thus far, although promising.
Yeah, I am truly disappointed since it is always nice to have another ammo option that is both cheap and accurate.
I guess I just have to keep stock piling the Norma 223 55gr stuff like I've been doing...

@FALARAK
off topic but I've recently joined ETTS :)
Been there 4 times already and really liking the 1250 yard range and the 50 yard tac bays.
2/11/2019 1:06:55 AM EDT
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Yeah, I am truly disappointed since it is always nice to have another ammo option that is both cheap and accurate.
I guess I just have to keep stock piling the Norma 223 55gr stuff like I've been doing...

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Been there 4 times already and really liking the 1250 yard range and the 50 yard tac bays.
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I really want to enjoy this ammo like everyone here, but it is not performing too well...

I went ahead and tested 2 more rifles using existing stash I have this weekend and found it a bit disappointing, again.
The rifles being Steyr AUG with 1:9 16" FN made barrel, and the RECCE Mk12 style 1:7 16" Bison Armory SPR profile SS barrel.

Neither one were able to consistently do under 2.5 MOA at 100 yards, 10rd group.
With Norma 55gr FMJ, the AUG is a 2MOA gun, and the RECCE being 1.5MOA.
I mentioned earlier on page 1 in this thread that my Colt A4 was doing around 3.5MOA 10rd group and Zenith Z43P doing around 2MOA.
Yikes.  That’s not great.  And not consistent with the admittedly very limited reviews we have thus far, although promising.
Yeah, I am truly disappointed since it is always nice to have another ammo option that is both cheap and accurate.
I guess I just have to keep stock piling the Norma 223 55gr stuff like I've been doing...

@FALARAK
off topic but I've recently joined ETTS :)
Been there 4 times already and really liking the 1250 yard range and the 50 yard tac bays.
I’ll probably be there on Thursday.  But taking a crew of newbies so I’ll be herding cats and not getting much T&E done.
2/11/2019 7:03:29 PM EDT
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Picked some up last night to try out.

If I hadn't just bought a case of XM193, and 500 rnds of MK318 mod1 this past week, I would have grabbed more.
2/11/2019 7:05:41 PM EDT
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On the EE.

Surprised me too, I was expecting mod 0.
2/11/2019 7:33:25 PM EDT
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On the EE.

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I need to stop in and see if the local chain still has a bunch of Mod 1, I got a bunch already and it was on sale for 5.99 a box last weekend. I'll still probably buy some of the Winchester to see what my SPR likes better.
2/11/2019 8:00:38 PM EDT
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I wish that was local
2/11/2019 8:28:14 PM EDT
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Holy Hell.....Federal SOST MK-318 for $5.99 a box??

I would have bought every last one, even if it meant mortgaging my house.
2/11/2019 8:43:51 PM EDT
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Holy Hell.....Federal SOST MK-318 for $5.99 a box??

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Yup, I was in GA for work but got my dad to grab me a few cases, if I was home I would of drove to every store and bought it all. And for kicks I'm gonna see if the Federal rebate works on it.
2/11/2019 10:32:00 PM EDT
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I'm in for a case. The majority of my ar's like 77gr, but I'm sure there will be some that do well with the 62gr.
2/12/2019 9:45:41 AM EDT
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Got a ship notice for more. My credit card may need some time off.

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