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Posted: 9/6/2005 7:26:13 AM EDT
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Yeah, I understand that. If IL allowed such things, the first thing I'd get would be a supressor.
On the other hand, we can't have Class3 in this state so it's always cool to see one, be it a Cop's or Uncle Sam's. WIZZO |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 7:54:34 AM EDT
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That's the KAC SOPMOD can. >$1000 each if you can find one.
The BIG ACOG is the TA55 5.5x. The can is good for interior work. I like the idea of gunshots to frighten the orcs. Simon |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 8:00:44 AM EDT
[#3]
Not the weapon type ( AR15 of course )
But the barrel type Yes -From Stainless Steel to Chrome Lined |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 8:05:10 AM EDT
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Will have to look into that can. Looks like it doesn't add to much to the length og the gun. I'll ave an 11.5 soon and I think that can would b perfect on it. 
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Posted: 9/6/2005 9:37:18 AM EDT
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I don't know whether Simplydynamic will be considered a civilian per se while on security detail, but he's got the sear nonetheless. I'm sure he's more than qualified to do what he's going to be asked to do in New Orleans:
 I just read the AMD65 post. No offense, but I wouldn't be caught dead (no pun) running around with anything related to an AK. It would be packed up in my car, but not on me. If I had to keep a rifle slung over my shoulder, it would be the AR- the classy looking AR. I don't have an Eotech anymore, but if I had one, it would be on there. I would want to look as much like the good guys as possible. I know the stigma is uncalled most ot the time, but it's definitely floating around AKs and especially a homemade looking version like the 65 or 63. |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 10:37:43 AM EDT
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who's that good lookin dude above? LOL
to bad that the African people are much more appreciative than some of the Americans down at ground zero....  I dont want to get off the Hurricane Topic but to answer quick questions here is the KAC M4QD suppressor on a 10.5 barrel:  and the optic is the TA55 5.5power very crisp and clear optic probabley one of the clearest I used. 
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Posted: 9/6/2005 10:48:33 AM EDT
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I like the Surefire set back a little so the bezel is flush with the forend. It puts the grip back where I like it better and looks nicer overall...
You need to send me that rifle so I can duracoat it in Tiger Stripe Brown and Woodland Brown and put a few skulls and scorpions in... |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 1:09:16 PM EDT
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No real changes, but I now see more uses for my 30.06 Rem 700 with 3x9 optics in a SHTF situation. Never really thought about the need for a long range gun until I heard about the sniper problems in NO. My SD primaries are still AR and USP .45
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Posted: 9/6/2005 1:12:47 PM EDT
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Personally, they probably used the "Sniper" term very loosely. Sniper usually means something like a trained markman in a concealed location. These retards shooting off the tops of buildings at people are not snipers. They are gunmen that need to be killed. WIZZO |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 1:38:27 PM EDT
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Excellent point, your description is much more accurate. I meant no offense to the real sniper trained folks out there! I am talking about having the means to effectively deal with said retards at much longer distances than my 14.5 inch carbine (in my hands anyway) can handle. |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 1:40:20 PM EDT
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What he said. |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 1:59:39 PM EDT
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Yeah, the weapon remains the same. However, I'm in "need" of a high quality night optic. That's what's missing. Unfortunately, so is the $4000 to buy one.
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Posted: 9/6/2005 2:18:09 PM EDT
[#13]
Excellent advice. Thank you! |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 4:49:26 PM EDT
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My fiancee's father's employer is highering people to escort them to the building to remove the equipment for 20k a day. Which seem like alot, but i guess they have the money for it. |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 4:52:42 PM EDT
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not until they sell plasma rifles.
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Posted: 9/6/2005 5:53:23 PM EDT
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while a "happy switch" is not that practical for a civvy situation, don't discount the "intimidation factor"....most of your assailants are going to be ignorant thugs that don't realize that precision semi-auto fire is more effective than spray-n-pray.
its the same mentality that causes them to surrender when you put a "beam" on 'em..... 
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Posted: 9/6/2005 6:19:02 PM EDT
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Good luck on trying to actually get one. KAC anything is hard to find, KAC cans.....aiyaiyai.
Want it short and QD? The AAC M4-2000 isn't much longer and a whole lot cheaper AND available. It also has a little better sound moderation (as per silencertests) Their OMNI won't work on a 10.5. Simon |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 6:47:39 PM EDT
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This whole event just made me think of a better CC handgun --- probably an HK P2000 in .40 ... As for my current list -- I'm glad I have a pump - 12 guage (FP6) , An extreme SHTF foul condition gun (SKS + Aimpoint on scout mount) - And my Sig P226 & HK USP. As for my AR's : I have a Bushy 14 & 20" -- both loaded, but now I'm really thinking hard about the piston conversions.
As for new stuff -- hoping/waiting for the XCR's in 7.62 X 39mm...... J223... |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 6:59:31 PM EDT
[#19]
You'd be dead then. Unless you bugged out to some high rise that withstood the hurricane. |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 7:24:49 PM EDT
[#20]
+1 Tack |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 8:15:02 PM EDT
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Dace, I'd have gone North. To hell with staying there. I have the means to facillitate my own transportation and would not have stayed in the first place, let alone gone to some designated "sheep hearding area".
The people still in the city causing the trouble were probably too poor to own a car or didn't think it'd hit as hard as it did. That's their problem. If I'm staring down the barrel of a shotgun (i.e. Katrina), and I can watch the guy pulling the trigger (the storm turning and heading right for town), It would make sense to get the F*CK out of the way. Just my opinion. WIZZO |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 8:56:57 PM EDT
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a big +1 /ditto . Of course If I lived 8ft below sealevel I might re-think that too  |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 9:22:53 PM EDT
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Hmmmmmmmmm I can be there tomarrow afternoon.. lol |
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Posted: 9/7/2005 12:34:17 PM EDT
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20k a day.... SURE... I'm a licensed Texas Peace Officer who can provide my own equipment; have him give me a call.
ETA: Oh, and "no", I wouldn't change a thing. The only thing I did was make a quick list of all the equipment I'd throw in the Expedition to send with my wife and son out of town. To those saying that lights and optics are stupid on a SHTF rifle... WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING? Ever heard of night ops? Low-light shooting conditions is THE reason for lights and optics! So who cares if my batteries run out or light stops working, that's what extras are for. In addition, your equipment shouldn't fail just cause it gets a little wet. Buy better equipment. Of course, I've got bunches of AR magazines, pistol magazines, a spare Glock 21 and other equipment on my LBV, too. |
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Posted: 9/7/2005 12:50:50 PM EDT
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what about how to descretely conceal a carbine and LBE while on foot. there still is some degree of Law down there, what type of cover garments would you use? for those who want to bug out without incedent.
also i'm seriously considering a 10.5" upper, whether it's legal or not, for such an occation. it could easily be concealed under a baggy jacket. |
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Posted: 9/7/2005 1:12:00 PM EDT
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More mags and ammo and a better way of carrying them. When this happened I immediately ordered 7 more mags to bring me up to the munumum 10. Yeah I know thats pretty sad, but im a poor college kid. I only have 650 rounds of SS109 but its better than nothing.
As for anyone considering an AK, I think it is a terrible idea. Anything AK screams BAD GUY. Not many thugs are carrying tacticafied AR's. Although you might be a civilian, from a distance you will look like a "good guy" if your holding an AR. |
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Posted: 9/7/2005 2:06:17 PM EDT
[#27]
That's the truth. AR = America's Rifle
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Posted: 9/7/2005 3:31:02 PM EDT
[#28]
maybe but i would rather have an AK than a lot of other kinds of guns my WASR is my 'back up' SHFT/truck gun (just in case i need another) just dont wear a ski mask/bandana while holding the AK
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Posted: 9/7/2005 3:53:28 PM EDT
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A .38 and a 10/22 is all you need.....
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Posted: 9/7/2005 3:55:35 PM EDT
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WEll...yes. I bought an extra AR. A Bushy M4 14.5(to go along with my DPMS/Rock River Franken AR and Colt SP1) and a CZ 527 .223 bolt w/18.5 barrel and iron sights.
I figure any reason to buy a new gun. BK More mags(1911/AR and AMMO) |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 6:45:30 AM EDT
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look at history.....AK is not the weapon that wins wars.... AR=America's Rifle....+1 |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 8:40:43 AM EDT
[#32]
There's a lot to be said for on's opinion. One could easily carry 100 rounds of .22 ammo, and while it's not a very potent cartridge, 2-3 hits with a .22 will make most people stop and think about the advisability of attacking YOU. The concealable handgun is my #1 choice of weapon - I'm always carrying one, whereas I'm very seldom carrying a rifle or carbine. Of course, given some time to prepare, I'd definitely want a carbine also, and unless I was`anticipating a lot of walking, would prefer one of my AR's over the 10-22. The configuration would depend on the specific SHTF scenario. Living at 10,200 ft., I probably won't spend a lot of time planning for a flood or a hurricane. 
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Posted: 9/10/2005 10:21:47 AM EDT
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So would a pelican case with desiccant. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 11:39:36 AM EDT
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I am set. No need to change. I just need more range time.
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Posted: 9/10/2005 12:32:31 PM EDT
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Due to the laws of my home state my Tanker Garand in '06 will have to do. I have about 1500 rounds in clips. I need to get some more enbloc clips. I'm thinking about a mag dump pouch to carry extra loaded clips in. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 1:17:38 PM EDT
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An AK does have the advantage of being able to Swiss Cheese a car well, which could be needed in a defensive role. 5.56 just doesn't do so well there. If I was hunkered down, either the AR or AK would do, but if I had to go mobile, I'd use the AR. It is easier to blend in or be mistaken for a "good guy" versus an AK. It's a stupid stereotype that AK = bad guy, but there you have it. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 1:27:41 PM EDT
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It only reinforces what I always figured.A few good rifles,handguns,shotgun.Plenty of ammo to feed them.In my case a 1 month water supply and plenty of can goods,dry goods and a few cases of MREs.Because one thing this shows is that no ones coming to help anytime soon and the survival of yourself and the ones you love deserves having a good SHTFK available.Some people think food and water but Im sure now like after 911,people who detested or had no use for firearms will see things different.No ones gonna rape,rob or murder you if you and those around you are prepared and armed., and that means guns like ARs to protect the people,food and water from thugs who will be looking to take the suppls and your lives.
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Posted: 9/10/2005 3:28:07 PM EDT
[#38]
I forgot to add the Remington 870 shotgun to go with the rig. Nothing says "GET THE FUCK OUT" quite like the sound of a shotgun being racked back
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Posted: 9/10/2005 3:36:12 PM EDT
[#39]
Looks like the ability to penetrate body armor is a new requirement as well.
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Posted: 9/10/2005 3:40:24 PM EDT
[#40]
need a shottie for all purpose defense.
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Posted: 9/10/2005 4:10:02 PM EDT
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Why? It can't penetrate body armor, requires as much aiming effort as a rifle, cannot make shots on small targets at distance, and requires more training than either the rifle or the handgun, due to its overly complex loading procedure. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 8:05:13 PM EDT
[#42]
Chainsaw and a Double barrel, Give me some sugar baby!
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Posted: 9/10/2005 8:33:40 PM EDT
[#43]
Thinking about adding the H/K under water pistol if I were'nt in the mountains.
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Posted: 9/10/2005 8:39:47 PM EDT
[#44]
maybe more ammo but thats about it
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Posted: 9/10/2005 10:29:03 PM EDT
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Yes Katrina will change it. Big Brother will come and help you whether you like it or not and take it way. Likw they are doing now. So I guess some of those 90% recievers could actualy come in handy.
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Posted: 9/11/2005 5:57:46 AM EDT
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Chainsaw and a Double barrel, Give me some sugar baby!
-Posted by Firelotus Ash i my hero... |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 7:14:07 AM EDT
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I agree. Since the idiots were shooting at the resuers, any resue helo or boat would steer clear of anyone seen carrying a rifle. They were patting down everyone that they were picking up and letting in to a shelter. So you'd either be able to conceal really well or be willing to not be resued. Or be willing to ditch any weapons you had when you got rescued. Also remeber, if martial law gets declared in a crisis the authorities may shoot first and ask questions later of anyone who is visibly armed. |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 7:58:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/11/2005 8:08:40 AM EDT
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Actually, Katrina did inspire me to ADD one extra item to my SHTF collection.
I've always carried a pistol when I'm in my truck, but the whole fear of getting stuck AWAY from my big-ole safe full of uber-tactical ARs and shotguns have inspired me to purchase a TRUCK RIFLE. It's a (don't laugh) Ruger Mini-14 that I will have the barrel shortened to either 16" or 14.5" (with perm. FS of course) and it will be locked VERY securely in my vehicle with VERY LARGE coated steel cable passed through the receiver itself. No, it won't be "quick access", but my pistol is good for that... I will also have between four and seven 20 round factory mags. One will be on the stock itself (modified M4-stock mag pouch) and three to six more in a Galati or similar. I just want to make sure that I have "enough gun" to get to my family and (if possible) to my house in case I'm at work when our "flood" comes. ("flood" being metaphoric for whatever it might be, not just water) Watching Katrina has taught me a few things... No matter WHAT, you do NOT want to go to a shelter. No matter WHAT, the ONLY person you can count on is YOU (and maybe your neighbors) No matter WHAT, the GOVERNMENT is PROBABLY NOT going to handle things in a way that BEST SUITS YOU!!!!!! |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 8:30:30 AM EDT
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M4 1500+ rds
M1A 500+ rds Moss 590A1 need more rds Sig 226 40 400rds |
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