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I just ordered more. Looks like they have just over 2,000 left.
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I really like the way they are packaged. They are well-oiled in plastic sleeves. I just place them in 5-mag batches in gallon ziploc bags. I double bag and then put them up. They look like they will keep for decades that way.
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Quoted: Haha I guarantee it. I'm up to 45 now lol Really trying hard not to order more, but I just feel like I'm going to be one of the ones crying if I don't get more while I can. I've heard to many "I should have bought more when they were a dime a dozen and available" stories, especially with different AK mags. View Quote |
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They're still running the free shipping on $100 order they started at Christmastime, so 11 mags qualify. As others have said they are well oiled and packed in a sealed plastic sleeve. Took one to the range, it ran fine.
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Glad to see there's still a source for these. I bought some back in 2010-2011 from Polymaggs and always liked them. I used mine quite a bit to include using them in a VTAC class. Never had an issue and they worked fine in a couple different lowers.
It might have already been mentioned here in the thread but rumor was these were made for the Tavor. Or that could have just been Internet hype to try and spur sales orders. In any case, they are solid mags. I still have a couple although they don't get much love nowadays. |
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This last week, while loading some of these for a range trip, I found two that will not take a full 30 rounds. Both will take 28 ok, one will take 29, but it requires excessive force.
I'm still trying to figure out if it's the followers, or if it's because the finish inside the bodies is really rough, and it's just binding up bad. Hoping to have some time today to mess with the worse of the two. |
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ISD Bulgaria doesn't make magazines, its a gun store/broker. A lot of the mags/bodies out of asia were steel because they were intended for the Singapore 80 AR-variant around this time. I bought 20 of the mags here in question and they look good. I have no need to use them but throwing them in my stash with the boxes and boxes of 30 and 40rd of "Made in Bulgaria sticker" AK ones. I think it would be interesting to know exactly where the sticker mags are made. The mags in questions didn't sell well over the last decade for decent reasons, PMags are one, and if you wanted a steel mag the ASC and E-Landers could be had for the same price ($10). Most of Bulgarian sticker AK mags were $6.99 so know one was associating them with high end mags. Distributor is probably pretty happy with this thread, they probably thought they would have to sit on them until the next election scare.
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“Distributor is probably pretty happy with this thread, they probably thought they would have to sit on them until the next election scare.”
Indeed! That scare is prob’ly only about 8 months out now. FWIW mine have run & load fine, use a Maglula though. |
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Got my 20 in today, they are indeed thicc
I'm impressed with the construction, may order a few more before they run out. |
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They're still running the free shipping on $100 order they started at Christmastime, so 11 mags qualify. As others have said they are well oiled and packed in a sealed plastic sleeve. Took one to the range, it ran fine. View Quote |
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It looks like Clearview's free shipping offer ended (I think it was related to the holidays anyway). It used to just show up as a shipping option in the drop down menu after you entered your zip code - it would show the options of Fedex, USPS, or Free Shipping if you cart total was over $100. For what it's worth, when I paid for shipping on my last order, it was really fast. I think I placed the order on a Monday night, they shipped it Tuesday morning, and it arrived Thursday afternoon. I'd prefer free shipping, but their Fedex price for a dozen steel mags is totally reasonable. I think we've all gotten used to discounted (or free) shipping prices.
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Ordered yesterday, shipped this morning Fed-Ex. Came out to 10.28 each with shipping for 30.
Should be interesting. Never tried any steel mags. |
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Ordered yesterday, shipped this morning Fed-Ex. Came out to 10.28 each with shipping for 30. Should be interesting. Never tried any steel mags. View Quote Mine have continued to run flawlessly. Still loving these mags. |
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They're nice mags for sure. I'm surprised they're not sold out yet.
Which reminds me, I will pick up another half dozen or so before they are gone. |
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Great pictures MOG! The AK sling looks Bulgarian too View Quote I love threads like this (thanks Crogers23 for starting up this thread and informing us of these cool mags) and I always love contributing to them when I can. I LOVE the sling and the AK mag pouch; I feel like buying another one to keep this one MIB (mint in box). They really are not pricey and are just too cool! |
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I have 2 Bushmasters XM15 M4A2 and M4A3 rifles.
Anyone try these mags in either of these 2 rifles? |
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I have 30 of these already an was looking to stock up on more mags. Would you buy these over okay sure feed mags?
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I have 30 of these already an was looking to stock up on more mags. Would you buy these over okay sure feed mags? View Quote Having said that, I decided to experiment with one tonight. I was able to install a Magpul follower and load the mag with 30 rounds, although the rounds started to nose down towards the end as the mag filled up. I believe it's because the GI spring can't lock into the locking plate at the bottom of the mag, since the factory spring loops are longer (front to back). That causes the spring to stack unevenly, I think, which causes the rounds to tip forward as the mag fills up (the 30th round was a very tight fit too). The brass casing of the top round noses down enough that it isn't touching the front half of the feed lip. It would probably feed with the force of the bolt pushing it forward, but I think there would be a risk of it nosing into the area below the feedramp (especially with rifle ramps) and potentially jamming. Regardless, I was pleasantly surprised that the Magpul follower fit and functioned smoothly: Attached File Here's how the GI spring compares to the bottom locking plate. I tested a newer tan follower GI spring, which has longer loops, front to back, but they still weren't long enough to fit around the locking plate tabs. In a pinch, you could cut off the raised spine with the locking tabs, leaving just the flat locking plate to secure the bottom baseplate in place, but it probably won't be quite as secure. Attached File |
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I'm torn about this question. I like these mags, and they seem to be reliable from everything that has been reported here (I haven't shot mine enough to confirm for myself). My misgiving is that, as previously mentioned, these use proprietary internal parts that won't be easily replaceable. Acknowledging that mags are disposable, it's still nice to be able to get replacement springs when the originals eventually start to wear out. I'd personally recommend buying Okay mags if you have to choose one or the other for budget reasons, but if you can afford them, I don't think there's anything wrong with stocking up on some of these. Having said that, I decided to experiment with one tonight. I was able to install a Magpul follower and load the mag with 30 rounds, although the rounds started to nose down towards the end as the mag filled up. I believe it's because the GI spring can't lock into the locking plate at the bottom of the mag, since the factory spring loops are longer (front to back). That causes the spring to stack unevenly, I think, which causes the rounds to tip forward as the mag fills up (the 30th round was a very tight fit too). The brass casing of the top round noses down enough that it isn't touching the front half of the feed lip. It would probably feed with the force of the bolt pushing it forward, but I think there would be a risk of it nosing into the area below the feedramp (especially with rifle ramps) and potentially jamming. Regardless, I was pleasantly surprised that the Magpul follower fit and functioned smoothly: Here's how the GI spring compares to the bottom locking plate. I tested a newer tan follower GI spring, which has longer loops, front to back, but they still weren't long enough to fit around the locking plate tabs. In a pinch, you could cut off the raised spine with the locking tabs, leaving just the flat locking plate to secure the bottom baseplate in place, but it probably won't be quite as secure. View Quote Will you be shooting both a stock mag and this one with the modifications you applied to it? It would be interesting to observe the differences in performance and feel. |
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300 rounds through one mag so far. No problems.
Got 3 other guys trying them that shoot more than I do, they also report no problems. |
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I'm torn about this question. I like these mags, and they seem to be reliable from everything that has been reported here (I haven't shot mine enough to confirm for myself). My misgiving is that, as previously mentioned, these use proprietary internal parts that won't be easily replaceable. Acknowledging that mags are disposable, it's still nice to be able to get replacement springs when the originals eventually start to wear out. I'd personally recommend buying Okay mags if you have to choose one or the other for budget reasons, but if you can afford them, I don't think there's anything wrong with stocking up on some of these. Having said that, I decided to experiment with one tonight. I was able to install a Magpul follower and load the mag with 30 rounds, although the rounds started to nose down towards the end as the mag filled up. I believe it's because the GI spring can't lock into the locking plate at the bottom of the mag, since the factory spring loops are longer (front to back). That causes the spring to stack unevenly, I think, which causes the rounds to tip forward as the mag fills up (the 30th round was a very tight fit too). The brass casing of the top round noses down enough that it isn't touching the front half of the feed lip. It would probably feed with the force of the bolt pushing it forward, but I think there would be a risk of it nosing into the area below the feedramp (especially with rifle ramps) and potentially jamming. Regardless, I was pleasantly surprised that the Magpul follower fit and functioned smoothly: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/Bulgarian_Steel_with_Magpul_Follower_JPG-1301099.JPG Here's how the GI spring compares to the bottom locking plate. I tested a newer tan follower GI spring, which has longer loops, front to back, but they still weren't long enough to fit around the locking plate tabs. In a pinch, you could cut off the raised spine with the locking tabs, leaving just the flat locking plate to secure the bottom baseplate in place, but it probably won't be quite as secure. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/Bulgarian_Steel_with_GI_Spring_JPG-1301107.JPG View Quote That’s some awesome work you’ve done. I need to get some time and play around with one too. I wonder if a Bulgarian spring could be cut and modified to work with the Magpul follower, eliminating the problem? |
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It’s not a whole lot, but I just got finished running 60 rounds through 2 Bulgarians in a new 10.3” build. First rounds through the rifle. Not a single issue.
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How do these compare to Beretta ARX100 steel mags?
I get the impression that the Bulgarians are generally reliable and nicely finished but sometimes need to be downloaded to work properly. |
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How do these compare to Beretta ARX100 steel mags? I get the impression that the Bulgarians are generally reliable and nicely finished but sometimes need to be downloaded to work properly. View Quote |
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Quoted: I haven’t had to down load any of mine in my 5 AR’s. Some have been slightly tighter than others, but it only causes it to be tougher to insert. Doesn’t interfere with the function. If you were to file probably just 1mm off the bottom of the follower, it’d solve the issue. I’ve been wanting to try this. Super easy mod that would take no time at all. Would probably be even easier to use sand paper. I may try this now.... stand by View Quote |
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Great work Scout! Will you be shooting both a stock mag and this one with the modifications you applied to it? It would be interesting to observe the differences in performance and feel. View Quote Quoted:
That’s some awesome work you’ve done. I need to get some time and play around with one too. I wonder if a Bulgarian spring could be cut and modified to work with the Magpul follower, eliminating the problem? View Quote @Crogers23 - On a related topic, looking back a few pages at how you refinished some of these magazines, it would be great if the mods could unlock your dedicate mag refurbishment discussion: Refurbishing Old USGI Mags (Dry Moly Finish) I'd like to ask a follow-up question or two that would be more appropriate there, and post some photos as I make progress with my own refurbed mags (I'm thinking about trying the OD green dry moly finish from Brownells). I'm not sure if there's a process for asking a mod to pull it back out of the Archives. |
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@Crogers23 - Thanks, I was considering sharing photos of the mags that I'm trying to strip the paint off of with Aircraft stripper. I posted photos of them here in your old thread. They're kind of a mess - lots of silver paint on them that will take several applications to clean off, I think. It looks like they only have dry lube finish on about the bottom third. The top half of the two mags is that nice gold / brass color underneath that old GI mags got when the finish wore off. My main question is whether the dry moly spray is completely opaque after several coats. I want to make sure I don't end up with a multicolored finish because of the different colors underneath. I'm also thinking about using the OD green dry moly and want to make sure I'll get a nice even color when applying it over these well worn mag bodies. Thanks!
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@Crogers23 - Thanks, I was considering sharing photos of the mags that I'm trying to strip the paint off of with Aircraft stripper. I posted photos of them here in your old thread. They're kind of a mess - lots of silver paint on them that will take several applications to clean off, I think. It looks like they only have dry lube finish on about the bottom third. The top half of the two mags is that nice gold / brass color underneath that old GI mags got when the finish wore off. My main question is whether the dry moly spray is completely opaque after several coats. I want to make sure I don't end up with a multicolored finish because of the different colors underneath. I'm also thinking about using the OD green dry moly and want to make sure I'll get a nice even color when applying it over these well worn mag bodies. Thanks! View Quote The bake step is important. Don’t skip or shorten the bake time. I also wore gloves and wiped each Mag down with acetone right before refinishing to remove any oils. |
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It's definitely silver paint. No offense meant to my friend who gave me these mags, but I doubt he's heard of dry moly, and it's clear that he or someone just painted these to make them look nicer (or maybe protect them) after the finish had worn off them. Here's one after the first round of Aircraft paint stripper. The silver on the top 2/3 of the mag is still paint that dried before I could wipe it off. The Aircraft stuff loosened it, but it was still very thick and sticky. It's interesting - it created a rough chalky residue when it reacted with the bottom 1/3 of the mag that still has dry lube on it. Kind of a mess that will probably need acetone or steel wool to smooth out before I can coat it with dry moly. Anyway, sorry for the off-topic discussion - this is what I would have liked to share in your other thread if there was a way to open it back up again.
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Bummer, at some point in the last ten days, Clearview raised the price of the mags to $10.99 each (they sent out a flyer on March 6 that still had them on sale for $9.34). Hopefully they'll run periodic sales on them again in the future. I wouldn't mind picking up a few more, but I'm not in a big rush.
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I just picked up 5, 30 round steel and 2, 35 round polymer Bulgarians from Gun Parts for $81 shipped.
Not a super deal, but not horrible considering the current climate. https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1235900B |
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I just picked up 5, 30 round steel and 2, 35 round polymer Bulgarians from Gun Parts for $81 shipped. Not a super deal, but not horrible considering the current climate. https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1235900B View Quote |
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I just picked up 5, 30 round steel and 2, 35 round polymer Bulgarians from Gun Parts for $81 shipped. Not a super deal, but not horrible considering the current climate. https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1235900B View Quote They are available from another source! |
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That's great! Numrich offers free shipping over $75, so that offsets the Clearview shipping, which can be a little high.
I wonder in Numrich bought a batch from Clearview. Seems unlikely that another source just popped up again, unless the manufacturer in Bulgaria is still making them. |
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Clearview appears to have less than 1,600 left, so that might be why we are seeing the price increase.
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I like the steel mags but wasn't too pleased with the plastic ones. I found them to be fairly brittle and to crack pretty easily. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I just picked up 5, 30 round steel and 2, 35 round polymer Bulgarians from Gun Parts for $81 shipped. Not a super deal, but not horrible considering the current climate. https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1235900B |
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Just FYI, the Numrich website has the following notice posted at the top:
Due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak and measures imposed by our state government, effective immediately our operations are temporarily suspended.
USA customers - YOU CAN CONTINUE PLACING ORDERS ON OUR WEBSITE, but we won't process them until we resume regular business hours. We appreciate your understanding. View Quote |
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Quoted: They’ve had them, but had them listed for $20 a piece until recently. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Ooohhh! They are available from another source! They’ve had them, but had them listed for $20 a piece until recently. Ah, gotcha! I will be going out to the desert tomorrow to zero my 458 SOCOM rifle as well as try out some new muzzle breaks I have installed in two of my other rifles; I will be sure to fire another 30 rounds of brass and another 30 rounds of steel through one of the Bulgarians and give a report! I also have a 60 round Magpul drum mag that has been loaded since November that needs some testing! |
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