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Posted: 1/10/2020 10:45:12 PM EDT

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Here’s the most recent one John Thomas did for me.

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The man has skills.

Posted: 1/10/2020 10:46:02 PM EDT

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X87

Posted: 1/11/2020 4:09:32 AM EDT

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In case you are still on the fence pack that stuff up and send it to ADCO. Just do it and move on with life.

Posted: 1/11/2020 6:22:57 AM EDT

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6481 Monroe St.
Sylvania, OH

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Well done Henry. People will see this and remember if they need work.

OP, get a refund for $120 and blast them here.

They’ll never understand how buying you two new muzzle devices would’ve been cheaper in the long run. Can’t fix stupid.

Posted: 1/11/2020 7:47:55 AM EDT

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looks like they didn't even use the pin hole on the top one.

They don't know what the hell they are doing, just welding the joint together. That's not ATF acceptable

Posted: 1/11/2020 7:51:16 AM EDT

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PS

Posted: 1/11/2020 9:16:28 AM EDT

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Absolutely not on the fence, they're packed up ready to be dropped off today!

Posted: 1/11/2020 9:16:55 AM EDT

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Well done Henry. People will see this and remember if they need work.

OP, get a refund for $120 and blast them here.

They’ll never understand how buying you two new muzzle devices would’ve been cheaper in the long run. Can’t fix stupid.

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Owner has no interest in giving a refund.

Posted: 1/11/2020 9:54:02 AM EDT

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Owner is really choosing to go down with this ship lol

Posted: 1/11/2020 10:29:39 AM EDT

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For any interested parties, the gun shop is Xtreme Gun Worx in Emmaus PA. Here is their website.

http://www.xtremegunworx.com/

Facebook

https://m.facebook.com/XtremeGunWorx

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https://instagram.com/xtremegunworx?igshid=fc8ill43wb3b

Posted: 1/11/2020 10:53:42 AM EDT

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First let me say that "work" by the shop was really screwed up.

Second, if the shop owner is offering to make it right, might I suggest you try to talk to the fella face to face, with the parts in front of the two of you, before you burn his business down? He maybe willing to ship them out to another smith to have work repaired and done right but your text messages seem to have boxed him into a corner.

I missed the text on pg 2... Glad ADCO is helping you out.

Posted: 1/11/2020 10:59:06 AM EDT

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6481 Monroe St.
Sylvania, OH

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@bigbore
You guys are great. Thanks for being an industry partner.

Posted: 1/11/2020 11:01:37 AM EDT

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For any interested parties, the gun shop is Xtreme Gun Worx in Emmaus PA. Here is their website.

http://www.xtremegunworx.com/

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https://m.facebook.com/XtremeGunWorx

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https://instagram.com/xtremegunworx?igshid=fc8ill43wb3b

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“XTREME” and “Worx” in any business title is a huge flag for me. For a title to include both should have been a huge stop sign. I’m not blaming you OP but my advice is always be looking for hidden or blatant clues.

Posted: 1/11/2020 11:03:09 AM EDT

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Owner is really choosing to go down with this ship lol

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Yelp and Google reviews help spread the word also.

Posted: 1/11/2020 11:04:55 AM EDT

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First let me say that "work" by the shop was really screwed up.

Second, if the shop owner is offering to make it right, might I suggest you try to talk to the fella face to face, with the parts in front of the two of you, before you burn his business down? He maybe willing to ship them out to another smith to have work repaired and done right but your text messages seem to have boxed him into a corner.

I missed the text on pg 2... Glad ADCO is helping you out.

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I tried to take the high road, I'm sure you understand me not wanting their "gunsmith" to touch them again. They spent maybe ten minutes putting those two "tack welds" down and are that ignorant to not realize it's completely hack, and understand why I'd like a refund.

Posted: 1/11/2020 11:22:39 AM EDT

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The fact that the shop will piss away their reputation on one terrible pin and weld job tells me all I need to know.

Posted: 1/11/2020 12:22:13 PM EDT

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Now thats a great move by a great company! Awesome of you guys to do this!

Posted: 1/11/2020 1:03:19 PM EDT

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Just got back from the post office, should be there Tuesday. Let me know if you need anything else. Thank you so much.

Posted: 1/11/2020 1:23:30 PM EDT

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Is this the same company that did business as Xtreme Machining in Grassflat, PA?

ETA: Xtreme Machining has their name stamped on the side of an akm by ATI called the AT-47.

Good on ADCO for fixing this. They cut down then pin and welded a Colt barrel for me. The barrel came out really nice but with minor gouges on the FSB. Overall I was happy

Posted: 1/11/2020 1:35:36 PM EDT

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Good to know. They're pretty local to me (the first recommendation from Silencer Shop based on my location). I'll definitely be avoiding them after this.

Posted: 1/11/2020 1:41:35 PM EDT

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Good to know. They're pretty local to me (the first recommendation from Silencer Shop based on my location). I'll definitely be avoiding them after this.

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OP should send SS pics of their work and seek input on quality of their dealer’s workmanship.

Posted: 1/11/2020 1:51:12 PM EDT

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Done

Posted: 1/11/2020 2:18:40 PM EDT

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This thread has me wondering if these are the same guys from Defcon 1.

Posted: 1/11/2020 2:32:08 PM EDT

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Low quality tends to associate with anything “Xtreme”

Posted: 1/11/2020 2:45:48 PM EDT

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Posted: 1/11/2020 2:50:03 PM EDT

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Sorry to hear OP, even worse to hear its local. I forwarded this thread to my LEHIGH gun buddies

Posted: 1/11/2020 3:05:05 PM EDT

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Was going to offer to fix this for you no charge but looks like ADCO is already taking care of you.

Posted: 1/11/2020 3:26:01 PM EDT

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Was going to offer to fix this for you no charge but looks like ADCO is already taking care of you.

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I really appreciate that. There are a lot of good people on this forum.

Posted: 1/11/2020 3:40:11 PM EDT

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Stand up outfit! Respect.

Posted: 1/11/2020 3:41:40 PM EDT

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My God. Incompetent AND arrogant.

Eta: FWIW, here's one that I did this a.m., took me a whopping .5 hr to assemble/drill/P&W.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416992/Screenshot_20200110-164509_Gallery-1229046.jpg

Granted the SF mounts/FHs are a bit more tight on placement but far from impossible. NO REASON to weld the device to the barrel.

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Very clean, no porosity. Awesome job!

Posted: 1/11/2020 3:44:00 PM EDT

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Damn OP sorry to see that-I’m a fing horrible welder and I think I could have beat that

Posted: 1/11/2020 3:44:18 PM EDT

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Adco in Ohio has done several of mine and their work is always outstanding, priced fair and quick turnaround

Posted: 1/11/2020 4:02:09 PM EDT

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Did you pay by credit card? Dispute that shit.

Also, WELL DONE, ADCO!

Posted: 1/11/2020 4:06:19 PM EDT

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Debit card

Posted: 1/11/2020 4:12:40 PM EDT

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Did you pay by credit card? Dispute that shit.

Also, WELL DONE, ADCO!

Debit card

Check, most debit cards are handled like a credit card even if you used a PIN.

Posted: 1/11/2020 4:13:34 PM EDT

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Emailed my bank about it. Thank you

Posted: 1/11/2020 4:19:47 PM EDT

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Mig the brake to the barrel, no pin needed!

Posted: 1/11/2020 4:29:51 PM EDT

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Emailed my bank about it. Thank you

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Don’t do the charge back yet. Contact the shop one more time and tell them you are filing a chargeback if they don’t refund your charge immediately. The threat of a charge back will be enough for them to refund your card. CC processing chargebacks is a scam that NEVER favors the business owner. If you do a charge back, the shop will be charged a fee of at least $25, (in addition to your refund) and it effects the rates the pay to process the card. They know they will not win a charge back dispute and will give you your money.

Posted: 1/11/2020 5:00:43 PM EDT

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Don’t do the charge back yet. Contact the shop one more time and tell them you are filing a chargeback if they don’t refund your charge immediately. The threat of a charge back will be enough for them to refund your card. CC processing chargebacks is a scam that NEVER favors the business owner. If you do a charge back, the shop will be charged a fee of at least $25, (in addition to your refund) and it effects the rates the pay to process the card. They know they will not win a charge back dispute and will give you your money.

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Thank you. I sent them a message.

Posted: 1/11/2020 6:15:12 PM EDT

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Wow. Not sure what amazes me more- how awful that “pin&weld” is or the fact they think it’s normal?

OP, I’m glad ADCO took care of you. I was tempted to post a picture of my last pin & weld by my local FFL for you to send to these bozos but you can’t actually see any sign of it. I’m sure they would accuse you of lying haha

Posted: 1/11/2020 7:01:59 PM EDT

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Next time I need work done its going to Adco.

Bravo to them.

Posted: 1/11/2020 11:29:33 PM EDT

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Absolutely. My mistake sending it to these guys. Hindsight is 20/20 should have gone with a company that knew what the fuck they were doing. Lesson learned is a lesson earned.

Posted: 1/11/2020 11:50:37 PM EDT

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Thanks for the heads up about that shop ill make sure to stay clr.

Posted: 1/12/2020 9:08:41 AM EDT

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Another Xtreme customer is feeling the burn.

Posted: 1/12/2020 10:34:22 AM EDT

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They also offer barrel threading. Combined with them being a silencer shop dealer I could see there being the ingredients for a "baffling" experience

Posted: 1/12/2020 11:43:13 AM EDT

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That's impressive

Posted: 1/12/2020 1:50:48 PM EDT

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Why do people keep giving their AR's to local "gunsmiths" to get mangled?

Do they not know how common this is?

Personally, I would not put rounds through a barrel with a muzzle device welded directly to it. Some people don't even like silver solder, this is worse. Barrels are cheap enough, and it's not worth it.

Posted: 1/12/2020 1:56:55 PM EDT

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Why do people keep giving their AR's to local "gunsmiths" to get mangled?

Do they not know how common this is?

Personally, I would not put rounds through a barrel with a muzzle device welded directly to it. Some people don't even like silver solder, this is worse. Barrels are cheap enough, and it's not worth it.

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It's a simple pin and weld job. The way the butchered it is not commonplace. Obviously this will not be getting shot in this configuration, adco is fixing it properly.

Posted: 1/12/2020 3:39:42 PM EDT

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Not to hijack the thread, but when it looks this good how do you prove to someone that it is in fact pinned/welded and legal? I mean this is amazing work.

Posted: 1/12/2020 3:49:42 PM EDT

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ADCO is awesome. Sent a few jobs to them over the years.

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