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Posted: 5/26/2023 12:53:32 PM EDT
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That is great and all ... but are they still able to export ...
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Posted: 5/26/2023 1:17:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is great and all ... but are they still able to export ... Everything comes to an end my friend. Let’s hope for peace, and a return to trade. Again: this is the technical section, but I think we can all agree on that. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 1:18:39 PM EDT
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There's a war on...going to be plenty of BFPU Zenitco to choose from on the secondary market.
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Posted: 5/26/2023 2:37:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: Big plans from everyone’s favorite AK accessories company. New factory underway. Spoiler: it’s freaking huge! Click: THIS VIDEO This hurts from the soul right down to my balls, but not my wallet because we will never be able to get it in an accessible manner. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 3:02:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a war on...going to be plenty of BFPU Zenitco to choose from on the secondary market. Parts kits too fingers crossed. I'll help empty those salt mines 
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Posted: 5/26/2023 3:30:47 PM EDT
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When I first saw their optics, I had a feeling they were outsourcing to China. I guess I was wrong as they are milling the housings in house and building the circuit boards. The glass I am not sure where they are sourcing but I guess they could be making it in Russia. Too bad we will never see them here to test and put them up against the western stuff.
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Posted: 5/26/2023 5:17:22 PM EDT
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Well, we can only hope that Putin and his cronies go away, NATO leaves Russia alone, and all the children in the world put their hands together for a Saiga import version of an AK-12, AKV-521 and more Barnaul ammo.
Seriously, this war sickens me. Slavs killing Slavs? This is a dream come true for Holy Roman Emperors, Napoleons and Hitlers alike. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 6:07:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, we can only hope that Putin and his cronies go away, NATO leaves Russia alone, and all the children in the world put their hands together for a Saiga import version of an AK-12, AKV-521 and more Barnaul ammo. Seriously, this war sickens me. Slavs killing Slavs? This is a dream come true for Holy Roman Emperors, Napoleons and Hitlers alike. The sanctions against Russian arms manufacturers will never be lifted Call me a pessimist if you will, but you will never see Russian firearms, parts kits, accessories, or ammunition (new contract that is) ever again |
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Posted: 5/27/2023 8:48:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The sanctions against Russian arms manufacturers will never be lifted Call me a pessimist if you will, but you will never see Russian firearms, parts kits, accessories, or ammunition (new contract that is) ever again Directly from Russia, yes. Best case for a source would be a post-war Ukraine consolidating and surplussing off old AKM and unserviceable/excess AK74. And maybe rebuilding their ammo factory in Luhansk if we are lucky since surplus 7.62x39 and 5.45x39 are banned from import. |
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Posted: 5/27/2023 11:20:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Directly from Russia, yes. Best case for a source would be a post-war Ukraine consolidating and surplussing off old AKM and unserviceable/excess AK74. And maybe rebuilding their ammo factory in Luhansk if we are lucky since surplus 7.62x39 and 5.45x39 are banned from import. I think the war will not go as you seem to think it will my friend. But again: this is the technical section so let’s save the wild speculation and Russophobia for general discussion sections where it seems to be tolerated. What I do know is that all things come to an end, and even in the meantime there will be work-arounds. Expensive work-arounds, but work-arounds none the less. |
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Posted: 5/27/2023 11:48:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the war will not go as you seem to think it will my friend. But again: this is the technical section so let's save the wild speculation and Russophobia for general discussion sections where it seems to be tolerated. What I do know is that all things come to an end, and even in the meantime there will be work-arounds. Expensive work-arounds, but work-arounds none the less. 
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Posted: 5/27/2023 10:58:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank you. We have a lot of Russian people that view this particular forum and I want it just as welcoming for them as it is for the Ukrainians. Anyway, I also want to get a hold of one of Zenitco’s reps and ask for a picatinny top to their sport 12 rails… Point is: I seldom get what I want out of life. 
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Posted: 5/28/2023 12:16:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have a lot of Russian people that view this particular forum and I want it just as welcoming for them as it is for the Ukrainians. Anyway, I also want to get a hold of one of Zenitco's reps and ask for a picatinny top to their sport 12 rails Point is: I seldom get what I want out of life. |
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Posted: 5/30/2023 7:40:18 PM EDT
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Im sure some of their products will end up in Kazakhstan and find its way over here. Money talks and everything else walks.
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:53:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the war will not go as you seem to think it will my friend. But again: this is the technical section so let’s save the wild speculation and Russophobia for general discussion sections where it seems to be tolerated. What I do know is that all things come to an end, and even in the meantime there will be work-arounds. Expensive work-arounds, but work-arounds none the less. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Directly from Russia, yes. Best case for a source would be a post-war Ukraine consolidating and surplussing off old AKM and unserviceable/excess AK74. And maybe rebuilding their ammo factory in Luhansk if we are lucky since surplus 7.62x39 and 5.45x39 are banned from import. I think the war will not go as you seem to think it will my friend. But again: this is the technical section so let’s save the wild speculation and Russophobia for general discussion sections where it seems to be tolerated. What I do know is that all things come to an end, and even in the meantime there will be work-arounds. Expensive work-arounds, but work-arounds none the less. While I support your optimism, your premise is flawed. China was banned from importing any rifle barreled firearms (which is why we still get crappy Chinese shotguns) in the 90's. If you were right, that ban would have been lifted by now and we'd be awash in Norinco AKs and M14s. I hear nothing about that ban being lifted and it's been 30 years. Hell, the Russian ban started in 2014 and it's only getting worse, not better. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:27:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While I support your optimism, your premise is flawed. China was banned from importing any rifle barreled firearms (which is why we still get crappy Chinese shotguns) in the 90's. If you were right, that ban would have been lifted by now and we'd be awash in Norinco AKs and M14s. I hear nothing about that ban being lifted and it's been 30 years. Hell, the Russian ban started in 2014 and it's only getting worse, not better. concur. I watched cheap AKs and cheap ammo disappear overnight. Took almost a year before other ammo started coming in in bulk. Was a rough time to be an AK owner. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:50:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: concur. I watched cheap AKs and cheap ammo disappear overnight. Took almost a year before other ammo started coming in in bulk. Was a rough time to be an AK owner. Quote HistoryQuoted: concur. I watched cheap AKs and cheap ammo disappear overnight. Took almost a year before other ammo started coming in in bulk. Was a rough time to be an AK owner. Quoted: While I support your optimism, your premise is flawed. China was banned from importing any rifle barreled firearms (which is why we still get crappy Chinese shotguns) in the 90's. If you were right, that ban would have been lifted by now and we'd be awash in Norinco AKs and M14s. I hear nothing about that ban being lifted and it's been 30 years. Hell, the Russian ban started in 2014 and it's only getting worse, not better. Let’s hope for the best. I think part of any settlement would be the lifting of sanctions. Assuming we get a settlement when we have a pro-firearm administration, we might be sitting in a much better position than we are with Chinese ammunition. And even China I’m bullish on. The lynx 12 is a great platform. I picked one up for less than $300 two years ago… point is, there is some light at the end of every tunnel. The rest I will leave for GD. |
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