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Posted: 5/22/2023 11:33:23 PM EDT
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Appreciate the input. I've been on the fence regarding a Jack versus an Zastava. I/m going to do one or the other soon. The Jack takes standard furniture, the M70 is just a bit different than my standard pattern AKMs... both have allure.
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Posted: 5/22/2023 11:50:20 PM EDT
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Jack is very close clone of AKM. Zastava on the other hand is the yougoslavian pattern. Yugoslavs did their own thing. It is a mix of AK parts with the RPK receiver with their own furniture patter.
Sill very nice overbuilt rifle. I have the OPAP and ZPAP and few kit built rifles. Like them a lot too. But Polish rifles, ether FB Radom or WBP are just much better overall quality guns in my humble opinion. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 11:10:01 AM EDT
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Is there a WBP Jack underfolder? Or are they all fixed stocks?
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Posted: 5/23/2023 11:29:01 AM EDT
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A couple of years ago when I was into building AKs, I built a couple off of WBP kits. The parts were the best I had ever dealt with. I've built rifles from Romanian, Bulgarian, Hungarian, and East German parts. WBP polish parts were top.
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Posted: 5/24/2023 7:23:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there a WBP Jack underfolder? Or are they all fixed stocks? They only offer fixed stock rifles .  |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 1:40:22 AM EDT
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Quoted: Just picked up WBP762 Jack rifle and I’m extremely impressed. I have a few higher end AKs, including Arsenal and Saiga both SLG 21 and 31. WBP Rifle is much better quality than arsenal Russian and Serbian Zastavas. Fit machining and finish is leaps over all the other brands. WBP should learn from those higher end rifle manufacturers how to correctly rivet properly designed scope mount. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 5:17:53 AM EDT
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100% agreed. I have made comments before. I dont like it how it is installed. In fact I waned the one without the mount but had really good deal on this one.
Not sure if there will be a problem with the receiver as rear trunion and scope rivets are way too close. But I think there are enough of these out there that the problem would have surfaced. Maybe not enough rounds through them, don’t know. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 8:58:32 AM EDT
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There have been thousands of the WBP rifles imported into the US over the last 6 -8 years and no issues from rivets and the scope mount.
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Posted: 5/29/2023 5:51:51 PM EDT
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OP, your rifle is a good choice from reviews I've read. Plan more range time, soon!
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Posted: 5/29/2023 7:28:59 PM EDT
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I have been in the AK game for 25 years, so I know thing or two.
Jack is a solid rifle but still I would prefer one without the mount. My first Ak was an Arsenal SLR 95 in 1997 for $280.. Still have it. |
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Posted: 5/30/2023 6:52:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have been in the AK game for 25 years, so I know thing or two. Jack is a solid rifle but still I would prefer one without the mount. My first Ak was an Arsenal SLR 95 in 1997 for $280.. Still have it. I me and the cookie makers remeber the days you could go to a gun show with that kind of money and buy 'one of those surplus commie guns' a couple thousand rounds of ammo for that kind of money! |
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Posted: 5/30/2023 9:54:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jack is a solid rifle but still I would prefer one without the mount. https://atlanticfirearms.com/wbp-762sr-jack-ak47-rifle https://armsofamerica.com/wbp-jack-rifle---7.62x39-sr-eta-q1-2023-/ |
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Posted: 5/30/2023 10:01:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThose would be great old school AKM clones, except for the giant paddle magazine release and tacticool safety.  Talk about punting it into the stands.
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Posted: 5/30/2023 1:28:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those would be great old school AKM clones, except for the giant paddle magazine release and tacticool safety. Talk about punting it into the stands.Agreed. All he asked for was railless, so I was happy to share. I'm just thrilled that we can still buy a non-railed new production AK. Those parts are fairly easily swapped anyway. |
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Posted: 5/30/2023 2:06:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed. All he asked for was railless, so I was happy to share. I'm just thrilled that we can still buy a non-railed new production AK. Those parts are fairly easily swapped anyway. Wasn't calling you out, and I agree they are just about perfect rail-less AKs, almost. The safety is a 30-second swap, but the magazine catch is not. Besides, who wants to have to swap essential parts on a brand new gun? It's just a "face-palm" choice of features on an otherwise classic, old-school styled AK. 
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Posted: 5/30/2023 6:58:37 PM EDT
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Jack is standard AKM less smooth cover. Fox has the rail mounting points and funky mag paddle
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:50:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wasn't calling you out, and I agree they are just about perfect rail-less AKs, almost. The safety is a 30-second swap, but the magazine catch is not. Besides, who wants to have to swap essential parts on a brand new gun? It's just a "face-palm" choice of features on an otherwise classic, old-school styled AK. No offense taken at all, brutha. To your point, I was so disappointed in the non-railed Jack (for the reasons mentioned) after it was released that I cancelled my pending order. I’d been waiting so long for it to come out that I was actually kinda pissed at the unnecessary mods. I eventually reordered it, but only after it went on sale. 
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Posted: 5/31/2023 8:36:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No offense taken at all, brutha. To your point, I was so disappointed in the non-railed Jack (for the reasons mentioned) after it was released that I cancelled my pending order. I’d been waiting so long for it to come out that I was actually kinda pissed at the unnecessary mods. I eventually reordered it, but only after it went on sale.  I came >< close to buying one last year, but in the end, I just didn't want to have to dick around with swapping out the magazine catch. I sent an email to AOA about it and they replied, said they'd received similar feedback and passed it onto WBP hoping for a change. We'll see. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 3:32:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I came >< close to buying one last year, but in the end, I just didn't want to have to dick around with swapping out the magazine catch. I sent an email to AOA about it and they replied, said they'd received similar feedback and passed it onto WBP hoping for a change. We'll see. If they correct it, I'll definitely be pissed. 
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