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Posted: 8/10/2023 1:17:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ChileRelleno414]
Bought a Saiga 7.62x39 many years back.
I immediately restored it from it's bastardized sporter config to something a little more to what Mikhail intended.



I got really lucky with it having factory threaded barrel.



Pretty simple, install new stock, pistol grip, Tapco G2 trigger, bullet guide and flash hider.
Left the forearm alone for awhile, then milled some slots, and finally just did away with it for a bolt-on hand guard retainer and Hogue set.





It underwent various changes from time to time, and pretty much settled out like this for years.



Finally I decided to go and do what I always wanted to do and convert it to a AK103 folder.
Here are some pictures of the process, not in any particular order of the work.
Work performed by John at Middletown Firearms.  now owner of Appalachian Gunwerks

















Finished












I put a PK01-VS on it.




Link Posted: 8/10/2023 1:30:13 AM EDT
[#1]
As god wills it!
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 2:00:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 18B30:
As god wills it!
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As God willed it, it was done.
Amen!
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:43:41 AM EDT
[#3]
Very nice!!
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 10:27:56 AM EDT
[#4]
Looks good. I did the front end but decided to not do the rear trunnion for a side folder. Since Russian parts have dried up, I used KUSA parts and they fit well and look good. I still need to paint the rifle once again. Saira rifles are fun projects.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 10:29:53 AM EDT
[#5]
That is fantastic — great work!!! 👍🏻👍🏻
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 10:42:05 AM EDT
[#6]
nice!
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 11:09:52 AM EDT
[#7]
Fabulous. Well done sir.
Link Posted: 8/11/2023 9:24:14 PM EDT
[#8]
Thanks all for checking it out and the replies.
Link Posted: 12/16/2023 7:30:16 PM EDT
[#9]
What did he charge for the work if you don't mind me asking?  I got a couple different quotes and prices are all over the place.
Link Posted: 12/17/2023 12:27:20 AM EDT
[#10]
Very nice.  Where did you source your pistol grip reinforcement plate?  Need one for my 103 clone.
Link Posted: 2/14/2024 8:26:56 PM EDT
[#11]
Anyone find the barrel on the Saiga a bit undersized for the front sight block?  Mine needed some knurling to properly fit the rusky block.
Link Posted: 2/16/2024 1:21:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ChileRelleno414] [#12]
Originally Posted By Milspec99:
What did he charge for the work if you don't mind me asking?  I got a couple different quotes and prices are all over the place.
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Sorry for the late reply.

What he charged me when you asked was even then no longer valid.
He had IIRC by then, gone into business on his own.
Link Posted: 2/16/2024 1:44:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ChileRelleno414] [#13]
Originally Posted By Milspec99:
Anyone find the barrel on the Saiga a bit undersized for the front sight block?  Mine needed some knurling to properly fit the rusky block.
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My builder did not communicate any fitment issues to me.
AFAIK the interference fit was fine on the barrel journals as they were.
Russian parts on a Russian barrel.
Link Posted: 2/16/2024 1:48:01 AM EDT
[#14]
Originally Posted By kenzo:
Very nice.  Where did you source your pistol grip reinforcement plate?  Need one for my 103 clone.
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Gunjoker
Link Posted: 2/16/2024 10:33:49 AM EDT
[#15]
Also want to know much would the conversion like this cost?
Link Posted: 2/16/2024 10:49:43 AM EDT
[#16]
I second this. I'm sitting on a saiga that's not converted
Link Posted: 2/16/2024 11:15:50 AM EDT
[#17]
Damn fine job welding up those holes. You'd never know they were there.

I still have cheap plastic plugs in my Saiga-12 SBS and need to get that done.
Link Posted: 2/16/2024 12:13:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ChileRelleno414:


My builder did not communicate any fitment issues to me.
AFAIK the interference fit was fine on the barrel journals as they were.
Russian parts on a Russian barrel.
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I have a Russian front sight block on a Russian barrel.  Unfortunately, they must speak different dialects.
Link Posted: 2/16/2024 2:59:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/17/2024 4:36:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ChileRelleno414] [#20]
Originally Posted By Beyond_Visual_Range:
Also want to know much would the conversion like this cost?
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Originally Posted By Tyrannosaur:
I second this. I'm sitting on a saiga that's not converted
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That's a loaded question.
Do you want all Russian parts?
Or are you willing to cut a few corners with some non-Russian parts?

Sourcing Russian parts is the hard part, be ready to drop $1200.-$1500. quite likely even more now.
The hardest will be the muzzle brake (and just forget about a long collar brake), the FSB, 5.5 folding mechanism and furniture.
Other small items like proper sight leaf (1000m rear sight leaf that is П marked with half ticks), lower HG retainer, PG reinforcement plate and trigger guard are a little easier.

Then getting it all put together by a good builder, e.g. John at Appalachian Gunwerks, will cost another $1000-$1500.


Link Posted: 2/17/2024 4:37:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gotterdammerung:
Damn fine job welding up those holes. You'd never know they were there.

I still have cheap plastic plugs in my Saiga-12 SBS and need to get that done.
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John at Appalachian Gunwerks does excellent work.
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 11:43:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ChileRelleno414] [#22]
Oopsie!................
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 11:44:27 PM EDT
[#23]
Originally Posted By kenzo:
Very nice.  Where did you source your pistol grip reinforcement plate?  Need one for my 103 clone.
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I know it's only two months late, you may have one by now, but...

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1036364446
Link Posted: 2/20/2024 12:26:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ChileRelleno414] [#24]
Originally Posted By ChileRelleno414:



That's a loaded question.
Do you want all Russian parts?
Or are you willing to cut a few corners with some non-Russian parts?

Sourcing Russian parts is the hard part, be ready to drop $1200.-$1500. quite likely even more now.
The hardest will be the muzzle brake (and just forget about a long collar brake), the FSB, 5.5 folding mechanism and furniture.
Other small items like proper sight leaf (1000m rear sight leaf that is П marked with half ticks), lower HG retainer, PG reinforcement plate and trigger guard are a little easier.

Then getting it all put together by a good builder, e.g. John at Appalachian Gunwerks, will cost another $1000-$1500.


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Holy Crap!
If I wanted it all right now, and was willing to pay Gunbroker prices, it'd be...
$2000.00+/- all Russian parts, except the gas block (Bulgarian) and a currently unavailable Russian muzzle brake.
OUCH!
I cut a few corners on my build with Arsenal furniture and a Bulgy 4.5mm folding mechanism, and parts still cost me almost $1000.00 2.5 years ago.
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