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Posted: 1/5/2021 8:30:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/5/2021 8:36:35 PM EST by Farmer-Ted]
Other than the price it sold for what's wrong with this GB listing?

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/887702459

And another wow on the price on different completed sale from same seller.  

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/886367139
Link Posted: 1/5/2021 8:42:57 PM EST
That Valmet looked sweet
Link Posted: 1/5/2021 8:44:11 PM EST
It's not an AKS? I'm not super familiar with ak variants.
Link Posted: 1/5/2021 8:44:37 PM EST
Lancaster Nodak Spud built rifle for $2400 huh? Hmmm
Link Posted: 1/5/2021 8:47:51 PM EST
The NDS-1 receiver was not available in 1981, so the seller has confused the trunnion markings with when the rifle was built using a NoDak Spud receiver
Link Posted: 1/5/2021 9:06:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
The NDS-1 receiver was not available in 1981, so the seller has confused the trunnion markings with when the rifle was built using a NoDak Spud receiver
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This.
Link Posted: 1/5/2021 9:24:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
The NDS-1 receiver was not available in 1981, so the seller has confused the trunnion markings with when the rifle was built using a NoDak Spud receiver
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That was my first thought...

“Is he claiming he has an imported AK from ‘81 that was somehow built on a Nodak receiver?”

But then again, I don’t know foreign model designations well enough to swear that NDS-1 could ONLY mean a Nodak receiver.
Link Posted: 1/5/2021 9:36:56 PM EST
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This.
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Originally Posted By AEnemaBay:
Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
The NDS-1 receiver was not available in 1981, so the seller has confused the trunnion markings with when the rifle was built using a NoDak Spud receiver


This.



This + 1.

I generally follow this seller's auctions when I have time.  He has been selling off an impressive collection of really everything under the sun for the past several months.  Pythons, Mausers, Colt SAA's, Winchesters, Springfields, bayonets and some nazi era stuff.  Lots of revolvers.   Excellent pictures and the items are almost always pristine.   I agree he confused the trunnion date and preban features on the Lancaster.   Having said that he has had several other auctions where he will post an amendment noting a mistake when he is made aware of one.  Like this one:

https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/888743423

So, if someone would have told him he probably would have made a notation.  Not perfect but not every gb seller does that.

     

Link Posted: 1/5/2021 9:38:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/5/2021 9:53:07 PM EST by TREETOP]
Link Posted: 1/5/2021 11:00:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/5/2021 11:00:53 PM EST by Farmer-Ted]
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Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
The NDS-1 receiver was not available in 1981, so the seller has confused the trunnion markings with when the rifle was built using a NoDak Spud receiver
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This.  No pre-ban made on NDS receiver.  Hopefully the buyer is not in a pre-ban only state.  There are a lot of discrepancies with some of the sellers other rifles
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 12:51:31 PM EST
Many people who post on there have no idea what they're doing, and many buyers have no clue what they're buying, but I see that a lot with AKs and AK accessories. Just take a look at the East German Type II AKM bayonet for $250.00! A ten-second internet search and Northridge has them in stock for $89. I often think this is some guy telling his wife he put it up for sale but no one was interested.
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 1:06:06 PM EST
I did notice the nice 2nd generation Polish sling, which I'd like to have. If this dude is getting $2300, then my 1983 Polish underfolder must be worth $3k ...

Link Posted: 1/6/2021 1:43:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CarlosC:
Many people who post on there have no idea what they're doing, and many buyers have no clue what they're buying, but I see that a lot with AKs and AK accessories. Just take a look at the East German Type II AKM bayonet for $250.00! A ten-second internet search and Northridge has them in stock for $89. I often think this is some guy telling his wife he put it up for sale but no one was interested.
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I saw a James River Tula build go for thousands of dollars on GB a while back. The build was obviously fucked up - the receiver was set back so far at the front that several millimeters of the front trunnion were exposed, leaving a huge gap at the front of the receiver between the handguard and receiver. This can cause some less than obvious problems like ejector being too far back in the cycle.

It was obvious to anyone who has worked on AKs but the average buyer would probably never notice it. It was a problem that could have ranged anywhere from purely cosmetic to the kit needing to be rebuilt but in any case I wouldn't have paid thousands for it.
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 10:08:20 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/7/2021 1:21:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms:
In regards to the Valmet, 7.62 x 39 guns always go for big bucks, usually around $6500 or so for ones that have been fired, and that is in a "normal" market.

Multiply that by New In Box with the box and all accessories, and the current crazy market conditions and a doubling in price on an unusual, desirable, and mint condition Valmet does not surprise me as much as the price on that Lancaster build on a Nodak receiver.



Sven
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Agreed AND the Valmet s also a true PRE-BAN that can be owned in a number of the less free states
Link Posted: 1/7/2021 7:40:42 PM EST
Valmet is hot.
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 7:07:18 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
Valmet is hot.
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Indeed, I just hate those bicycle handlebar grips they used. Other than that, it has all things on the check list.
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 7:25:44 AM EST
also claims "pre ban" yet no bayo lug
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 10:25:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By micmacman:
also claims "pre ban" yet no bayo lug
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Looks like both of them have bayonet lugs. What are you looking at?
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 9:14:52 PM EST
That guy is either an idiot or a scammer.  Sorry but there is so much info available on line these days that making that kind of claim is just suspect.

I have a Kasner import Hungarian underfolder - swapped russian furniture and bakelites for mags.  Only true "pre-ban" euro spec. AKM underfolder you can buy.
Link Posted: 1/16/2021 9:11:28 PM EST
Valmets have always commanded a premium, but things are really getting out of whack!!!
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