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Posted: 10/10/2018 4:25:48 PM EDT
Century Arms announces new ‘heavy duty’ VSKA AK rifle

Just saw this pop up in a feed.  I know Century doesn't have the greatest reputation for their builds, but thought it might be of interest.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:28:31 PM EDT
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I'm skeptical.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:32:44 PM EDT
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It's like the Ras47 and the C39 but more better metal!
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:32:57 PM EDT
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As am I, but I hope they're successful.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:29:30 PM EDT
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Pass

Link Posted: 10/10/2018 7:10:57 PM EDT
[#5]
Sounds like they've upgraded only the critical components. I would be weary of other components failing that the ras47 demonstrated in rob ski's 5k round test. Things like the front sight hood splitting off and the sling loop bent inwards, and the rear sight disintegrating. Also, that msrp is suspect when a RAS47 retails for $15 more on their website.

But, credit to them for coming out with a rifle that has upgraded components. Its a step in the right direction.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 7:41:34 PM EDT
[#6]
I have strong doubts about any thing built by Century but I wish them luck.

I'm not very hopeful though since I've heard the story before.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 8:03:05 PM EDT
[#7]
A heavy duty AK with no chrome bore? Pass.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 8:13:32 PM EDT
[#8]
It took them 'years of development' to copy a rifle pioneered in the 50's that was also widely copied in many other countries including China and Romania?

ETA: Or maybe that's just how long it took them to realize that you shouldn't make critical parts out of castings...
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 8:17:53 PM EDT
[#9]
No thanks. I'll keep my Molots and Noincos.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 8:48:47 PM EDT
[#10]
Palmetto State is an American Made option, is it not?
Link Posted: 10/11/2018 7:16:23 AM EDT
[#11]
So they made a “better” RAS, without admitting to the shortcomings of the original?
Link Posted: 10/11/2018 10:53:55 AM EDT
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Nitriding is as good as if not better. At least one foreign AK manufacturer (Radom FB) is nitriding barrels rather than chrome lining. I wouldn't be surprised to see others make a switch.

Lots of kit builds have been put together with US made nitride barrels. They work great.
Link Posted: 10/11/2018 3:28:40 PM EDT
[#13]
Nyet, wouldn't waste any time or money on it.
Link Posted: 10/12/2018 9:28:41 AM EDT
[#14]
I want them to do well. But their previous two attempts at an American made AK have been questionable. The C39s seem to be doing far better than the RAS series based on what I have read.

I have a PSAK as my American AK offering and it has been just fine for me.
Link Posted: 10/12/2018 9:50:34 AM EDT
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If it was anybody but Century or IO, I "would wish them well" with this endeavour. Theyve proven with their lies, shills and nonsense that they arent actually trying to make a good product. There is absolutely zero reason to expect them to change and anybody who falls for this foolishness has noone to blame but themselves.
Link Posted: 10/12/2018 5:22:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/13/2018 12:49:47 AM EDT
[#17]
Why even waste your time or money? There are better options for similar cost, with know track records. Century, IO, DDI, PSA, etc have all shit the bed with made in USA rifles. Anyone that buys one deserves the shit box they’re getting imo.
Link Posted: 10/13/2018 4:56:28 AM EDT
[#18]
still don’t care.

I do like that stock though.
Link Posted: 10/13/2018 6:01:53 AM EDT
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We have started to test the new rifle and documenting pictures of the internals as we complete each shooting session.

VSKA Rifle

https://atlantic-firearms-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/media/sylius_shop_product_original/product/vska-ak47-rifle-century-arms-12.jpg
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Good
Link Posted: 10/13/2018 8:48:48 AM EDT
[#20]
Some interesting material in here:

No optics rail

No cleaning rod

Dimples, but no magazine stabilizing plates

Additional rivets

Milled front trunion

The rifle appeared to shoot very reliably at its first range trip.

I hope they got it right this time.

Century Arms VSKA AK47 Rifle Testing at Atlantic Firearms PART ONE
Link Posted: 10/13/2018 3:03:38 PM EDT
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No thanks. I'll keep my Molots and Noincos.
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Same here.
Link Posted: 10/13/2018 3:32:02 PM EDT
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It took them 'years of development' to copy a rifle pioneered in the 50's that was also widely copied in many other countries including China and Romania?

ETA: Or maybe that's just how long it took them to realize that you shouldn't make critical parts out of castings...
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Ha my thoughts exactly.

Still, if they get it right I would actually be interested.

I’ll see how the AKOU test go before seriously considering it.
Link Posted: 10/14/2018 11:46:19 PM EDT
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Ha my thoughts exactly.

Still, if they get it right I would actually be interested.

I’ll see how the AKOU test go before seriously considering it.
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I like that guy. If it's crap he has nuts enough to say so, unlike other 'reviewers'.
Link Posted: 10/15/2018 7:16:38 AM EDT
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I like that guy. If it's crap he has nuts enough to say so, unlike other 'reviewers'.
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Ha my thoughts exactly.

Still, if they get it right I would actually be interested.

I’ll see how the AKOU test go before seriously considering it.
I like that guy. If it's crap he has nuts enough to say so, unlike other 'reviewers'.
Yeah, Rob Ski is a "straight shooter" in his reviews, unlike the myriad of shills out there.
Link Posted: 10/16/2018 8:07:17 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/16/2018 8:22:06 AM EDT
[#26]
Hell ya. I love my RAS47. Shoots great and only have around 4500-5000 rounds though mine. A little wear on the bolt and parts but every AK beats themselfs up. They are not build to precise tolerances like an AR is. I would be interested in getting one of these.
Link Posted: 10/24/2018 1:08:30 AM EDT
[#27]
I hope they bring a good product to market. I’d like to see them succeed and bring a quality firearm to market.
Link Posted: 10/24/2018 7:08:11 AM EDT
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Yeager is doing some really clumsy and laughably transparent shill videos for the rifle which doesn't really bode well for its quality.

Pathetic.
Link Posted: 10/24/2018 8:29:40 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/24/2018 9:23:23 AM EDT
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Yeager is doing some really clumsy and laughably transparent shill videos for the rifle which doesn't really bode well for its quality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH5dC6fQ6qw

Pathetic.
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Yeager was always biased. He always recommended Arsenal in the beginning of his youtube career, then changed to century when they provided him a bunch of WASRs and C39s for his company. Always had nothing but good things to say about Centuries AKs. Rob ski on the other hand will tell it like it is. Just take note that it's a sample of one gun with him.
Link Posted: 10/24/2018 7:14:41 PM EDT
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I have a couple century AKs.

They actually do fairly well, though I did have to do some work on my m74 because the front sight post was so canted.

One thing I just can't wrap my head around is their constant use of unlined barrels in what they know well will be a rapid, high round count rifle.  Even people who aren't serious shooters who buy one will do mag dumps.  Maybe not a lot but they will still do them.

Luckily my wasr was monkye'd together fairly well.  But my soul is burning for moar 74 and an underfolder...
Link Posted: 10/24/2018 7:37:03 PM EDT
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Nitriding is as good as if not better. At least one foreign AK manufacturer (Radom FB) is nitriding barrels rather than chrome lining. I wouldn't be surprised to see others make a switch.

Lots of kit builds have been put together with US made nitride barrels. They work great.
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A heavy duty AK with no chrome bore? Pass.
Nitriding is as good as if not better. At least one foreign AK manufacturer (Radom FB) is nitriding barrels rather than chrome lining. I wouldn't be surprised to see others make a switch.

Lots of kit builds have been put together with US made nitride barrels. They work great.
I don’t see in the description that it has a nitrited bore; only states it’s 4150 chrome moly steel.
Link Posted: 10/24/2018 8:14:14 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/25/2018 10:22:58 AM EDT
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I'd love to see where it says this is a "Technical" forum. My browser shows it to simply be "AK Discission".
I guess one could use that as an excuse to censor opinions and discussion on topics one personally dissent like. Seems to be working so far.
Link Posted: 10/25/2018 10:33:08 AM EDT
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I'd love to see where it says this is a "Technical" forum. My browser shows it to simply be "AK Discission".
I guess one could use that as an excuse to censor opinions and discussion on topics one personally dissent like. Seems to be working so far.
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IMO, Dryflash does a good job at keeping the GD comments out of this forum.

Its so easy to pick up when Yeager is repeating Century's literature. And the bolt seems to be showing wear in Atlantic's test, at the 3:25 mark. Imo, its going to be the same situation as Rob's C39; replace bolt with surplus and check headspace and keep on shooting.
Link Posted: 10/25/2018 11:06:57 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/25/2018 11:59:14 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/25/2018 3:11:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/26/2018 12:33:42 AM EDT
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My browser just shows "AK Discussion".
Link Posted: 10/26/2018 10:26:25 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/26/2018 10:51:47 AM EDT
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Tag.

Interested to see how this holds up.

I got the email from Century when they announced these. Looked like a nice rifle, we'll see how it lasts.
Link Posted: 10/26/2018 8:28:19 PM EDT
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Looks like the extra rivets on the left side are for a missing side mount. Hopefully Century got the hint and ditched their proprietary side mount, but instead buyers get nothing?
Link Posted: 10/26/2018 9:29:19 PM EDT
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Looks like the extra rivets on the left side are for a missing side mount. Hopefully Century got the hint and ditched their proprietary side mount, but instead buyers get nothing?
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Yes, the extra rivets are there only to plug the vestigial side rail rivet holes in the receivers which they're carrying over otherwise unchanged from the previous RAS47 model.
Link Posted: 10/27/2018 6:48:55 AM EDT
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Why bother with lightening up the carrier? Were heavy carriers a known ak problem?
Link Posted: 10/27/2018 6:24:31 PM EDT
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Getting back to business. Has anyone went out and even seen one in the wild yet? I really want them to succeed here.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 11:42:07 AM EDT
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Why bother with lightening up the carrier? Were heavy carriers a known ak problem?
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My guess is to easy ID the manufacture.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 8:38:33 PM EDT
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Is it correct to point out the mass and shape of the gas block is because it's a cast part?

The gas block looks odd to me, after decades of seeing AKMs with a pretty standard shaped block.

Is there a reason why forged blocks can't be sourced?
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 8:48:53 PM EDT
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Is it correct to point out the mass and shape of the gas block is because it's a cast part?

The gas block looks odd to me, after decades of seeing AKMs with a pretty standard shaped block.

Is there a reason why forged blocks can't be sourced?
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Yeah, it's pretty odd. I imagine that particular shape is cheaper to produce since it has more simplified features.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 10:20:38 PM EDT
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Does anyone know what VSKA (Viska) stands for?
Link Posted: 10/29/2018 2:41:29 AM EDT
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Does anyone know what VSKA (Viska) stands for?
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