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Posted: 9/17/2019 8:28:27 PM EDT
I previously had a pretty cool Romanian AK74-type rifle I stupidly sold it.

I want to go all in on a Krinkov SBR

Who has the most legit build currently?

Thanks
Link Posted: 9/18/2019 10:46:13 PM EDT
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You are picking a bad time to get into that. Just about everything is dried up. Just look at gun broker.
Link Posted: 9/21/2019 4:26:32 PM EDT
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Yeah story of my life. Lol
Link Posted: 9/21/2019 5:01:36 PM EDT
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https://www.k-var.com/slr-104ur-factory-sbr-545x39mm-stamped-short-gas-systemtriangle-folder-front-sightgas-bloc
Link Posted: 9/21/2019 5:09:27 PM EDT
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SLR-104UR

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Link Posted: 9/21/2019 8:22:18 PM EDT
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This, unless you don't want the optics rail (which would be most early-mid 1980s issued guns, which also had the earlier handguards with distinguished vent slots as pictured above). In that case look for an SLR-104U.

If you replace the 4 with a 6, it'll be the 5.56x45mm NATO version (which looks identical except for the mags).

Oh yeah, and that's an AKS-74U that you're wanting.

S = folding stock.

(The "U" suffix = "Ukorochennyj" in Russian. "Shortened" in English.)

Krinkov is an improper designator made up by poorly-informed Americans.
Link Posted: 9/21/2019 9:13:30 PM EDT
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A bit pricey!

Are the Arsenal AKs worth it.

I could not find a “pistol” version of the above.

Sounds like Form 4’s are slow right now but Form 1’s fast.

Is there a rear trunnion issue with installing the side folder?
Link Posted: 9/21/2019 9:21:23 PM EDT
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This, unless you don't want the optics rail (which would be most early-mid 1980s issued guns, which also had the earlier handguards with distinguished vent slots as pictured above). In that case look for an SLR-104U.

If you replace the 4 with a 6, it'll be the 5.56x45mm NATO version (which looks identical except for the mags).

Oh yeah, and that's an AKS-74U that you're wanting.

S = folding stock.

(The "U" suffix = "Ukorochennyj" in Russian. "Shortened" in English.)

Krinkov is an improper designator made up by poorly-informed Americans.
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This, unless you don't want the optics rail (which would be most early-mid 1980s issued guns, which also had the earlier handguards with distinguished vent slots as pictured above). In that case look for an SLR-104U.

If you replace the 4 with a 6, it'll be the 5.56x45mm NATO version (which looks identical except for the mags).

Oh yeah, and that's an AKS-74U that you're wanting.

S = folding stock.

(The "U" suffix = "Ukorochennyj" in Russian. "Shortened" in English.)

Krinkov is an improper designator made up by poorly-informed Americans.
More like “Suchka”. Little Bitch.
Link Posted: 9/21/2019 11:36:17 PM EDT
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A bit pricey!

Are the Arsenal AKs worth it.

I could not find a “pistol” version of the above.

Sounds like Form 4’s are slow right now but Form 1’s fast.

Is there a rear trunnion issue with installing the side folder?
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You won’t find a 5.45 pistol. Get a 104U or UR and then F1 it. When the stamp returns chop the barrel with a hack saw leaving about 1/8” from the FSB, clean it with a file, and then use a brownells crown tool to clean it up. It’s easy to do if you use the right tools, use cutting oil, and have some patience. Either keep the AK-100 furniture or sell it off and buy a triangle stock. Add a booster and you’re in business.
Link Posted: 9/22/2019 11:34:53 AM EDT
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Seems like they have those 104s set up perfect to SBR.

Looking at SLR104-53  looks like you just need to cut the barrel in front of the 24mm threads and screw on the Krink brake.

Of course I can’t find one of these in stock either.

Also guessing the optics rail is useless with the side folder?
Link Posted: 9/22/2019 11:47:50 AM EDT
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Seems like they have those 104s set up perfect to SBR.

Looking at SLR104-53  looks like you just need to cut the barrel in front of the 24mm threads and screw on the Krink brake.
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Seems like they have those 104s set up perfect to SBR.

Looking at SLR104-53  looks like you just need to cut the barrel in front of the 24mm threads and screw on the Krink brake.
A most astute observation.

Also guessing the optics rail is useless with the side folder?
You can't fold the stock while optics are mounted.
Link Posted: 9/22/2019 12:15:07 PM EDT
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If I were gonna get one now I'd go with an Arsenal

Top one is a bulgy kit with original barrel and matching s/n nodak receiver.

Bottom is an 86 tula kit with blue Jack v5 barrel and 74ullc matching s/n receiver
Link Posted: 9/22/2019 5:27:38 PM EDT
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Welcome to the world of AKSUs.
Link Posted: 9/22/2019 6:26:48 PM EDT
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I remember when AKs were cheap and ARs expensive. Lol
Link Posted: 9/22/2019 7:07:36 PM EDT
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So do I, but AKSU's were never cheap. Even when Romy kits were $99 (or less sometimes), AKSU kits were a couple hundred. I remember buying a virgin Bulgy AKSU kit with an original barrel for around $450 from Global Trades and a lot of people said it was a stupid purchase. Ah, to have those days back.
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 2:55:37 AM EDT
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If you find a 104ur and form 1 it also know that you need to have the front sight pressed off and have the gas restrictor removed so that it cycles with the short barrel. Some say you dont but I had to have it done on mine.
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 7:47:50 AM EDT
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The 107UR...yes. Not the 104UR. The 104 is already slightly overgassed.
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 10:03:23 PM EDT
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Uh as I stated. I had to have it done to mine...
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 10:04:53 PM EDT
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You’re rifle is having other problems then. It would be the first 104 I’ve ever heard of that required it.
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 10:53:51 PM EDT
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Some 104's had restrictors, some didn't.  I got lucky.  Mine was an earlier serial number model that didn't have one.  This thread may help.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 12:01:26 AM EDT
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I’m sure if I ever find one it will have an undrillable Tungsten carbide restriction donut I’ll have to deal with. Lol
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 1:06:08 AM EDT
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You’re rifle is having other problems then. It would be the first 104 I’ve ever heard of that required it.
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No the problem I was having was arsenal started installing restrictors in the 16 inch barreled versions beginning with the BC prefix serial numbers because they were over gassed. This resulted in the gun not cycling properly once the barrel was chopped, regardless of whether or not a booster was installed.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:06:59 PM EDT
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try CREBS CUSTOMS
Link Posted: 10/14/2019 5:54:51 PM EDT
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Tried a few builders with little luck since there are no kits at reasonable prices.

So arsenal has some options with the “gambit” faux suppressor barrel extension thing.

Anyone removed one? After Form 1 approval of course.

How hard to remove? We’re the threads ok?
Link Posted: 10/14/2019 6:06:03 PM EDT
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There was a bulgy kit in the ee recently.
Link Posted: 10/19/2019 2:10:27 PM EDT
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get a SLR104UR and SBR it.
Link Posted: 10/19/2019 2:17:04 PM EDT
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Do they offer that with wood handguards?
Link Posted: 10/19/2019 11:11:53 PM EDT
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I don't know if they offer it with wood, but I can tell you I like it with wood.  Mine with factory furniture and then with wood.

Link Posted: 10/19/2019 11:30:35 PM EDT
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I don't know if they offer it with wood, but I can tell you I like it with wood.  Mine with factory furniture and then with wood.
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Very nice. If I buy one, I'll have to get it swapped out.  I bought a bunch of mags for $3 each years ago. I need to get one ordered...
Link Posted: 10/25/2019 9:26:31 PM EDT
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Slr 104 and chop barrel when stamp comes. For an optic I got a tiny rail the sits in the rear sight mount perfect for a primary arms rds.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 8:31:09 PM EDT
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Slr 104 and chop barrel when stamp comes. For an optic I got a tiny rail the sits in the rear sight mount perfect for a primary arms rds.
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Slr 104 and chop barrel when stamp comes. For an optic I got a tiny rail the sits in the rear sight mount perfect for a primary arms rds.
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Slr 104 and chop barrel when stamp comes. For an optic I got a tiny rail the sits in the rear sight mount perfect for a primary arms rds.
I agree except there are no SLR 104s

I talked to some builders and custom shops.

Kits are expensive blah, blah, blah.

I know an AK is not as modular as an AR.

Is there some secret communist tech to make a 8”  barreled AK?

Why can’t I buy all the parts to assemble a new Krink type AK?

With all the production tech we have I need to find a kit from Bulgaria?
Link Posted: 11/2/2019 2:03:35 AM EDT
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Much of this stuff has near zero chance of any stateside military/ police orders and making AKs requires real skill and specialized tools. ARs are lego kits by comparison, with tons of sales potential.  There are a couple of high end builders and that's it. Just like HK stuff. Home builders are going to get the short stick.
Link Posted: 11/2/2019 6:44:12 PM EDT
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Is OP specifically looking for 5.45?  That caliber is in a bit of a bubble currently.

If you can handle 7.62, you can get yourself in a sam7k, stamp it, and slap a stock on for not too much.  Or in 5.56, I recently got a 106ur pistol that was all set up for SBR for $1200.  Just add the price of a tax stamp and a stock from kvar and I'm set.  Also in 7.62 land, the linx folder kits are $700.  Add a receiver and you get all your parts for $800.  Then its whatever you can build it or have it built for, and a tax stamp.
Link Posted: 11/27/2019 1:50:45 AM EDT
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Arsenal 106U 5.56x45
Arsenal 107UR for 7.62x39

I wish I had 104U or some kind of 5.45x39 krink. I do have a 105 type build in 5.45, but it's not the same lol.

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Link Posted: 10/13/2020 9:47:11 PM EDT
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bumping because AK74 is best AK
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