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Posted: 12/11/2010 9:33:12 AM EDT
Here are a few photos of my Ruger Mini-14 GB. This is by far my favorite variant and I wish Ruger still made a version of this carbine. Ruger says this stock is too expensive to produce but I think everybody always liked it. Maybe they could cut costs by making the stock body out of polymer. The pistol grip could be molded in as one piece.
What do you guys think? 
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Posted: 12/11/2010 9:35:09 AM EDT
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Where are they?
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Posted: 12/11/2010 9:36:01 AM EDT
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Where are they? Stand by. The photobucket upload failed. |
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Posted: 12/11/2010 9:42:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/11/2010 9:58:17 AM EDT
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My uncle has a ruger folder like this, I have always tried to buy it from him because they are pretty cool.
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Posted: 12/11/2010 12:21:47 PM EDT
[#5]
Yes!
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Posted: 12/11/2010 12:34:18 PM EDT
[#6]
Probably my favorite folding stock. I just need to find a way to build a 10/22 in there.
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Posted: 12/11/2010 1:22:06 PM EDT
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Probably my favorite folding stock. I just need to find a way to build a 10/22 in there. +1 I don't have much desire for a regular Mini-14 but a Mini in that stock = 
A 10-22 in a similar stock would be kick ass also. making a poly version wouldn't be the same, what makes it so neat is the old school combination of wood, plastic grip & steel folder mechanism. |
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Posted: 12/11/2010 2:25:12 PM EDT
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I had the stock for the 10/22 and I loved it. It was wood with the metal tubing type buttstock. It was a solid locking system. A friend and I put a couple of thousand rounds a week for years through that thing. I think it was about 82 or 83 when I got it, and I sold it,( dumbass me) , just before the weapons ban, along with two 30 round mags, and bought a Tec9 with two 32 round mags and the screw on shrouded barrel extension. to carry in a delivery van with me( I collected and delivered in some really bad neighborhoods
. And yes, I think it,( the mini 14 folding stock)should be reintroduced.
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Posted: 12/11/2010 3:31:50 PM EDT
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How close to the BC folder is that did that stock feel?
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Posted: 12/11/2010 4:08:31 PM EDT
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I have always thought that was an ingenius design, and I would love to so the details of how it worked up close. How does the buttplate lock and how does the stock lock?
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Posted: 12/11/2010 4:42:59 PM EDT
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I have always thought that was an ingenius design, and I would love to so the details of how it worked up close. How does the buttplate lock and how does the stock lock? I'll see if I can't get some good photos of the stock mechanism tomorrow. |
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Posted: 12/11/2010 5:47:18 PM EDT
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I love the GB stock. I had a Mini GB for a few years. But as cool as it was, I sold it off to get an AR.
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Posted: 12/12/2010 12:08:57 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Probably my favorite folding stock. I just need to find a way to build a 10/22 in there. +1 I don't have much desire for a regular Mini-14 but a Mini in that stock = A 10-22 in a similar stock would be kick ass also. making a poly version wouldn't be the same, what makes it so neat is the old school combination of wood, plastic grip & steel folder mechanism. My sentiments exactly. |
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Posted: 12/12/2010 12:27:34 PM EDT
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Sure, but I doubt it would ever happen. I have one of those old GB folders as well, definitely the coolest looking Mini of them all! And not every kid on the block has one either.
Mine generates lots of stares and questions from passerbys at the range. |
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Posted: 12/12/2010 12:33:40 PM EDT
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The old Ruger folders have a certain cachet for the collector, but the more modern Butler Creek and Choate folders are likely tighter-fitting (more accuracy), and more robust to boot.
Not to mention a lot less expensive. FWIW, I've used all three extensively. YMMV. |
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Posted: 12/12/2010 1:34:05 PM EDT
[#16]
I wish they would..........I always wanted one
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Posted: 12/12/2010 1:50:09 PM EDT
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While we are on this subject, is there are price we would be willing to pay? I'm betting the wood stock would run somewhere in the $300 range. That's another reason I was thinking about plastic.
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Posted: 12/12/2010 1:55:26 PM EDT
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No.
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Posted: 12/12/2010 4:05:26 PM EDT
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I have always thought that was an ingenius design, and I would love to so the details of how it worked up close. How does the buttplate lock and how does the stock lock? OK. Here's how it works: The stock has a stud on the side that serves as a latching point for when the stock is folded. 
There's a hole in the stock's tube that interfaces with the stud on the stock. 
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Posted: 12/12/2010 4:06:18 PM EDT
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Here's the latch that keeps the stock from closing.
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Posted: 12/12/2010 4:07:22 PM EDT
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The butt plate has its own lock that keeps it from hinging into the folded position.
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Posted: 12/12/2010 4:08:26 PM EDT
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When the stock is folded, the stud that fits into the stock tube also latches the butt plate into place.
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Posted: 12/12/2010 4:11:45 PM EDT
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To open the stock:
1: Hinge down on the butt plate and lock it into place––this unlatches the stock and allows it to swing outwards. 2: Swing stock fully out and back until it snaps into place––you're ready to shoot. To close the stock: 1: Use a thumb to unlatch the stock tube from the hinge at the rear of the stock––the stock will then swing forward to the closed position. 2: Unlatch the butt plate and fold it up over the stud in the right side of the stock. This latches the unit in solidly against the rifle until needed. |
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Posted: 12/12/2010 4:30:38 PM EDT
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They need to introduce one that takes AR mags and costs $300 less.
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Posted: 12/12/2010 4:53:45 PM EDT
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They need to introduce one that takes AR mags and costs $300 less. 
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Posted: 12/12/2010 5:53:03 PM EDT
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Here's the latch that keeps the stock from closing. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/tokarev/Ruger%20Mini-14%20GB%20Folder/P1000856.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/tokarev/Ruger%20Mini-14%20GB%20Folder/P1000858.jpg you might want to fix that crack before it gets bigger....particularly if these stocks are rare... |
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Posted: 12/12/2010 6:43:57 PM EDT
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I pref er the next generation wood with the underfolding stock
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Posted: 12/12/2010 11:53:27 PM EDT
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what next generation wood?
i have been wanting a folder like that for my mini but i cant justify spending 300-500 on one like they are asking for on the online gun auctions. sometimes i see a folding rifle at a gun-show but they are asking around 800 for it. like that will happen. i paid 750 for my mini-14 target and it gets 1/2 inch accuracy (no bs). it suffers from the barrel heat up and accuracy problems like all other minis  so it isnt sustainable accuracy past a full 30 round magazine shot at a moderate pace.
yeah, i would like if ruger would bring back the original folding stock for their "tactical" model
until then i will be spending my money on my AR build (which is totally rad) so, what is this next generation wood? i didnt know there could be such a thing. 
Am i misreading something? |
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Posted: 12/13/2010 6:39:46 AM EDT
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I always liked the side folder.
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Posted: 12/13/2010 6:49:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/13/2010 7:56:44 AM EDT
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I pref er the next generation wood with the underfolding stock that's not "the next generation" as that wasnt a factory ruger stock. it was a falcon if I recall (I had one for a while) biggest problem with the underfolder, is that if you had a 30rd mag in the rifle, you couldnt open the stock without removing the mag.... 
ETA: I voted "no" because then mine wouldnt be as rare 
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Posted: 12/13/2010 9:51:53 AM EDT
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I pref er the next generation wood with the underfolding stock that's not "the next generation" as that wasnt a factory ruger stock. it was a falcon if I recall (I had one for a while) biggest problem with the underfolder, is that if you had a 30rd mag in the rifle, you couldnt open the stock without removing the mag....
ETA: I voted "no" because then mine wouldnt be as rare Sounds like some of the NFA community
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Posted: 12/13/2010 12:44:11 PM EDT
[#33]
ahh
so there is no next generation wood.... it was the falcon stock. from what i have heard, the falcon stock wasn't all that bad but i think it looks hideous and i think it had some give/twist to; not sure though as i havent held one. it has to be better than that tapco stock though but yeah, those are aftermarket stocks. the only aftermarket stocks that are wroth their salt are the Hogue, Clyde Armory SCAR stock, and that troy ind. of those, only the Hogue is worth the price with the SCAR barely in second place (concerning price). Troy's stock is way too much for what you get (at least they could throw in some iron sights with that price, i think it was 700 the last time i checked) Hogue's stock is great but it does not fold. There is a side folding option for the scar stock but it is 100 bucks more onto the price. To get the Troy stock to fold you have to get ace stock hardware and that just adds to that giant pricetag. i would end up putting more money into my mini than my ar. it would be really cool to have a 2,000+ dollar mini, but i dont know if it would be worth the price. for that money why not replace the barrel and go all out, you would end up with just about a completely different rifle; pretty close to an AR in function regarding rail space and ergonomics. why not go with an AR for cheaper? Maybe you like the Garand operating system better (i do), but still that is a LOT of cash, at least for me. you could end up with a Mini- Mk 14(ebr) if you were willing to throw the money at it. all of that is a different animal though but all of those are aftermarket stocks. the factory folders are where it is at! Combine that with a Ultimak rail and you might have something... that is classic/badass/and fun to shoot without costing both and arm and a leg |
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Posted: 12/13/2010 1:14:54 PM EDT
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I pref er the next generation wood with the underfolding stock that's not "the next generation" as that wasnt a factory ruger stock. it was a falcon if I recall (I had one for a while) biggest problem with the underfolder, is that if you had a 30rd mag in the rifle, you couldnt open the stock without removing the mag....
ETA: I voted "no" because then mine wouldnt be as rare Sounds like some of the NFA community my stainless sidefolder is an SBR, so technically it is part ofthe NFA community
gratuitious family pic (even though I dont have 2 of those rifles any more) 
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Posted: 12/13/2010 1:58:39 PM EDT
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Hells to the yeah
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Posted: 12/13/2010 2:09:58 PM EDT
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They need to introduce one that takes AR mags and costs $300 less. What? I almost bought a mini-14 a year and a half ago before I even had an AR15. Turns out they are all over priced, and ougt to at least take AR mags for what they charge for one. I don't mean to turn this into a mini bashing thread but if the price came down on them they'd be a pretty good .223 gun, especially with this folding stock, but they aren't worth what Ruger wants to charge for one unless maybe you live in CA or NY. |
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Posted: 12/13/2010 2:22:08 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They need to introduce one that takes AR mags and costs $300 less. What? I almost bought a mini-14 a year and a half ago before I even had an AR15. Turns out they are all over priced, and ougt to at least take AR mags for what they charge for one. I don't mean to turn this into a mini bashing thread but if the price came down on them they'd be a pretty good .223 gun, especially with this folding stock, but they aren't worth what Ruger wants to charge for one unless maybe you live in CA or NY. Can't make it take AR mags without a massive magazine well. |
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Posted: 12/13/2010 2:40:13 PM EDT
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If the people at Ruger and Armalite would just fire a few idiots, there are all sorts of low-cost improvements that could be made to the Mini, and the AR180B. I guess they don't really want to sell them after all.
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Posted: 12/13/2010 7:04:50 PM EDT
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you might want to fix that crack before it gets bigger....particularly if these stocks are rare... That's not a crack. It's a small casting flaw. |
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Posted: 12/13/2010 9:31:15 PM EDT
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do those accu-struts really help out with accuracy?
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Posted: 12/13/2010 10:25:25 PM EDT
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I once turned down a transferable full auto Mini14 GB with a factory folding stock like this (it was blued rather than SS) for $450.00.
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Posted: 12/13/2010 10:33:50 PM EDT
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YES! Both would be sweet.
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Posted: 12/13/2010 11:53:33 PM EDT
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I pref er the next generation wood with the underfolding stock My preference also for the folding stocks. |
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Posted: 12/14/2010 5:20:21 AM EDT
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do those accu-struts really help out with accuracy? yes. old style (read: pencil barrel) mini's were notorious for stringing shots when the thin barrel got hot. the strut adds rigidity and therefor helps prevent that a lot. |
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Posted: 12/14/2010 5:20:42 AM EDT
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While we are on this subject, is there are price we would be willing to pay? I'm betting the wood stock would run somewhere in the $300 range. That's another reason I was thinking about plastic. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That is a collector price. There is no way in hell it would cost ruger 300$ to make that. take a 0 off that number. |
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Posted: 12/14/2010 5:36:55 AM EDT
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While we are on this subject, is there are price we would be willing to pay? I'm betting the wood stock would run somewhere in the $300 range. That's another reason I was thinking about plastic. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That is a collector price. There is no way in hell it would cost ruger 300$ to make that. take a 0 off that number. $30? I want what you're smoking! There's no way in hell they'd be able to tool up and mass produce enough of them to sell at a $30 price point. Maybe $150-200 |
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Posted: 12/14/2010 5:52:57 AM EDT
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While we are on this subject, is there are price we would be willing to pay? I'm betting the wood stock would run somewhere in the $300 range. That's another reason I was thinking about plastic. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That is a collector price. There is no way in hell it would cost ruger 300$ to make that. take a 0 off that number. $30? I want what you're smoking! There's no way in hell they'd be able to tool up and mass produce enough of them to sell at a $30 price point. Maybe $150-200 I bet you would
Keep in mind this stock is oldschool SRC has the tooling already. its just put away, or in storage. Consider the gas block too. It is different. The sling mount was on the side, instead of on the bottom. |
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Posted: 12/14/2010 6:36:43 AM EDT
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How about they offer a stainless mini from the factory with a FS. The ones I see, and there website confirms this, are blue models with the FS. Doesn't make any sense.
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Posted: 12/14/2010 6:57:12 AM EDT
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look, while the old school sidefolder is very cool and desireable to a small group of mini owners, I cant see ruger actually making the effort to bring it back.
materials and etc are more expensive than the polymer stocks and function is actuallly substantially less than the "new" stocks too. the only thing the old stocks have is "form", with very little "function". while I love my sidefolder, its not the most comfortable gun to shoot. |
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Posted: 12/14/2010 7:32:58 AM EDT
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look, while the old school sidefolder is very cool and desireable to a small group of mini owners, I cant see ruger actually making the effort to bring it back. materials and etc are more expensive than the polymer stocks and function is actuallly substantially less than the "new" stocks too. the only thing the old stocks have is "form", with very little "function". while I love my sidefolder, its not the most comfortable gun to shoot. I am going to disagree with the high production cost all the way to the bank. Ruger does not want to make it. That is the only thing holding it back. For years, SRC had no reason, other than lack of desire, for not selling 30 round magazines. Then one day SRC startd selling 30rd magazines at 25% what the collector price was. |
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