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Posted: 2/21/2008 11:08:27 AM EDT



Off to the range this weekend
Link Posted: 2/21/2008 11:20:34 AM EDT
[#1]
I like
Link Posted: 2/21/2008 11:23:55 AM EDT
[#2]
Nice, How much?
Link Posted: 2/21/2008 11:51:26 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
I like


+1
Link Posted: 2/21/2008 11:54:26 AM EDT
[#4]
needs a vertical grip
Link Posted: 2/21/2008 12:10:37 PM EDT
[#5]
I traded 2 ak's for it, I think you can get them for around $1100 and the stock was $150 from dsa + $200 to Uncle Sam.

I need to pick up a stubby grip for it and it should be good to go.
Link Posted: 2/21/2008 12:21:57 PM EDT
[#6]
that's begging for a can.
Link Posted: 2/21/2008 4:59:14 PM EDT
[#7]
That's handsome.  
Link Posted: 2/21/2008 5:21:34 PM EDT
[#8]
Woot Woot. You got it for a smoking price. Mine was $1400 with 2 extra mags.

Here's mine



It kicks a little more than you'd expect with a stock.

If I might ask... where did you get yours engraved? I sent mine off to HDPS to be engraved on the left side, under the 2 big pins. I couldn't really find any other spots that were wide enough and flat enough for a decent engraving job.

Are you sure you tightened the screw for the stock all the way? Mine doesn't have anything sticking out the top of the stock latch like yours.
Link Posted: 2/21/2008 5:25:51 PM EDT
[#9]
Is that a special front rail you have? The only ones I've seen have been straight like the OP's weapon.

Also, does the TP need it's forward grip shaved flat on the side the stock closes on for clearance?
Link Posted: 2/21/2008 5:29:42 PM EDT
[#10]
The rail is the same as the one above, but I took a hacksaw to it.

I tried ordering an extra rail, just in case I wanted to go back to original config, but DSA won't order one for me.

I had to dremel off about 1" of material from the upper right side of the stock for it to close. The grip is too fat up top and prevented it from closing all the way. I got that grip because it came with a flat side and looks very much like the TMP/MP9 integral grip.
Link Posted: 2/21/2008 5:31:41 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Woot Woot. You got it for a smoking price. Mine was $1400 with 2 extra mags.

Here's mine

i45.photobucket.com/albums/f60/jigmonkey/TP9-2.jpg

It kicks a little more than you'd expect with a stock.


awesome set up.

How do you guys like the TP9? Is it reliable?
Link Posted: 2/21/2008 6:13:48 PM EDT
[#12]
I myself was seriously considering getting a TP9 to SBR, but the whole front grip thing was a sticking point for me. I like the looks of the weapon but I don't want to have to do any grinding or sanding on anything to make the stock fold properly... plus if you put a grinder in my hand I tend to screw stuff up.
Link Posted: 2/21/2008 7:30:54 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
I myself was seriously considering getting a TP9 to SBR, but the whole front grip thing was a sticking point for me. I like the looks of the weapon but I don't want to have to do any grinding or sanding on anything to make the stock fold properly... plus if you put a grinder in my hand I tend to screw stuff up.


If you really want one there are plenty of good smiths around missouri who could do the work for you...
Link Posted: 2/22/2008 4:43:37 AM EDT
[#14]
I'm just not keen on having to alter the design of a weapon to make it "work". I can understand slight "tweaking" of parts but wholesale grinding of material off of a weapon just rubs me the wrong way. I just wish DSA had a plastic lower exchange where you could trade your non-forward grip pistol lower for a forward grip SBR lower when you SBR the pistols, but from what I understand the serial number is on the plastic lower.

Which is another concern of mine... I know that plastics have come a long way and they wouldn't use them for the weapon's receiver if they were not confident in the plastic's ability to retain shape and not wear but I'm just cautious about spending a lot of money and SBR'ing a weapon with a plastic receiver. It's more my own paranoia than it is any actual, factual reasons. I'm just spoiled with my metal receivered SBR's.
Link Posted: 5/6/2008 12:57:48 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
I'm just not keen on having to alter the design of a weapon to make it "work". I can understand slight "tweaking" of parts but wholesale grinding of material off of a weapon just rubs me the wrong way. I just wish DSA had a plastic lower exchange where you could trade your non-forward grip pistol lower for a forward grip SBR lower when you SBR the pistols, but from what I understand the serial number is on the plastic lower.

Which is another concern of mine... I know that plastics have come a long way and they wouldn't use them for the weapon's receiver if they were not confident in the plastic's ability to retain shape and not wear but I'm just cautious about spending a lot of money and SBR'ing a weapon with a plastic receiver. It's more my own paranoia than it is any actual, factual reasons. I'm just spoiled with my metal receivered SBR's.

A semi-auto pistol with a plastic receiver?  Whoever heard of such a thing!
Link Posted: 5/6/2008 5:05:37 AM EDT
[#16]
LaRue's new FUG Grip would be perfect for yours.  You could install it in it's shortest configuration with the flat side of the grip on the right for proper stock clearance.

MadDog
Link Posted: 5/6/2008 1:34:20 PM EDT
[#17]

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The rail is the same as the one above, but I took a hacksaw to it.

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So the bottom rail can come off or something?

Can you take a close up pic of that area?
Link Posted: 5/7/2008 4:07:23 PM EDT
[#18]
Yes, inside the lower frame are 2 torx-head screws. One is under the front portion where the barrel sits and the other screw is under the trigger spring.

Just unscrew those 2 and the rail falls right off.
Link Posted: 5/8/2008 5:50:03 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
Yes, inside the lower frame are 2 torx-head screws. One is under the front portion where the barrel sits and the other screw is under the trigger spring.

Just unscrew those 2 and the rail falls right off.




Interesting.
I'm looking for something to do with my tax return stuff. Maybe this.

How do you guys think it shoots and all?
Link Posted: 5/14/2008 2:54:03 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Yes, inside the lower frame are 2 torx-head screws. One is under the front portion where the barrel sits and the other screw is under the trigger spring.

Just unscrew those 2 and the rail falls right off.




Interesting.
I'm looking for something to do with my tax return stuff. Maybe this.

How do you guys think it shoots and all?


yeah guys how about a range report. i am close to picking one of these up but would like to know how they shoot first. TIA
Link Posted: 5/14/2008 4:13:45 PM EDT
[#21]
What`s the deal with the muzzle nut on the end of your guns? Mine doesn`t have it
Link Posted: 5/14/2008 5:07:45 PM EDT
[#22]
Ok, I have to admit those look cool as hell and now I must own one. Damn you AR15.com for making me spend WAY more money than I should on firearms.
Link Posted: 5/14/2008 5:52:25 PM EDT
[#23]
I'd love a range report/review from you guys too. Trying decide between this and a 9mm  AR. How's the trigger?
Link Posted: 5/14/2008 6:46:55 PM EDT
[#24]
FOR THE BILLIONTH TIME NOW......

how do these run? Are they reliable with all types of ammo?
Link Posted: 5/14/2008 6:49:43 PM EDT
[#25]
WE DEMAND RANGE REPORTS

(I have a tax return and possible bonus coming)
Link Posted: 5/14/2008 7:17:40 PM EDT
[#26]
I'll see if I can bring it to the range this weekend after the big gun show.

I've only put about a box and a half of winchester white box through mine. It had no failures of any kind. I didn't sight in the optic, but this next time I probably will. It recoils a little more than you would expect from a 9mm with a stock and a foregrip.

The bolt hold-open is nice, just slip a new mag in, press the latch down and it's ready to shoot some more.

The front sight post is huge and past 30 yards it would cover most targets. The trigger on the TP9 is also much improved over the super heavy, super long Steyr SPP trigger.
Link Posted: 5/15/2008 3:35:53 PM EDT
[#27]
I have put about 250 rds of WWB through mine without a problem. I have only had it on the 50yd range, it seems to be fairly accurate for a wanna be sub gun. It is as much fun as my sbr uzi and weighs a ton less.

Definitely an interesting little gun, glad I bought mine anyway. I wish I could give you a better range report but weather and time have not been on my side lately. It's been too long since I went to the range.
Link Posted: 5/18/2008 10:10:22 AM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
FOR THE BILLIONTH TIME NOW......

how do these run? Are they reliable with all types of ammo?


MIne ran great with Speer Lawman, but horrible with UMC, but that ain`t the first time UMC failed me
Link Posted: 5/18/2008 10:45:38 PM EDT
[#29]
orangelo, if it's not too much trouble, could you elaborate a little on the work you did to your rail?

I don't have one sitting in front of me, so I don't know if it's the angle, the VFG or what, but I just can't see how you did it, but it looks great.

Man I absolutely love the looks that thing, the grip, stock, and micro Aimpoint all go together perfectly. If I was gonna set one up, that's exactly how I'd do it.
Link Posted: 5/19/2008 4:18:51 PM EDT
[#30]
It looks quite ghetto when I take the rail off the gun. I didn't feel like touching up and smoothing out the parts that aren't visible.

1) Undo the 2 screws indicated in the first picture. The factory screws are torx(star) headed screws. I've replaced mine with hex screws and washers because I had matching nuts for them.
2) Cut the 2 mounting points off the rail so that it is level.



3) Drill out 2 large holes where the nuts will go. Epoxy them them into the rail. There is alot of empty space there. The nuts have to go in at the right angle. I did it by putting masking tape all over the bottom of the receiver and then putting the screws and nuts into place and then putting a big glob of epoxy to hold them in. When the epoxy has cured, unscrew the screws, peel off the masking tape, and dremel off any excess goo that oozed out.

4) This is how it should look once it is dried. Doesn't look so cool now does it?

It is rock solid however. I've tried pulling on the forward grip as hard as I can and I can't get the rail to come off.


Link Posted: 5/26/2008 2:57:17 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
I'll see if I can bring it to the range this weekend after the big gun show.

I've only put about a box and a half of winchester white box through mine. It had no failures of any kind. I didn't sight in the optic, but this next time I probably will. It recoils a little more than you would expect from a 9mm with a stock and a foregrip.

The bolt hold-open is nice, just slip a new mag in, press the latch down and it's ready to shoot some more.

The front sight post is huge and past 30 yards it would cover most targets. The trigger on the TP9 is also much improved over the super heavy, super long Steyr SPP trigger.



orangelo did you get a chance to get to the range for a more detailed range report yet? TIA
Link Posted: 5/26/2008 3:22:58 PM EDT
[#32]
I didn't. I picked up my V51 SBR the same day and the closest range doesn't allow rifle calibers. I will have to wait until I can get to a rifle range that isn't run by politically correct Fudds to try out my 2 SBRs.
Link Posted: 5/26/2008 3:56:05 PM EDT
[#33]
I took mine out Saturday and ran about 300 rounds of Speer Gold Dot HP's through it.  

Accuracy off a rest was excellent, I was able to keep all but 2 of 30 rounds in the 10 ring of a B27 target (~3").  

Offhand accuracy was very good, although the pistol is in the 4lb neighborhood loaded with a light and EoTech, which gets tiring holding out after a while. Rapid fire was very easy to control, and 30 rounds gives you a ample reserve.  Magazine changes are smooth and quick.

Recoil was dampened by the mass, although it has a different recoil pulse than most Browning style locking mechanisms. Almost has a delayed recoil feel to it.

Reliability was good, although I did note that if the mag was completely full (30rds), the first round wouldn't always feed; the HP would catch on the feed ramp. Loading only 29rds worked and fed fine.

Cleaning is a bit more involved than your typical handgun, although it was easier than a AR.

All in all it should make a nice home defense handgun.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a63/paochow/Firearms/IMG_4815.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a63/paochow/Firearms/IMG_4819.jpg
Link Posted: 5/26/2008 4:57:10 PM EDT
[#34]
I am pretty sure I am ordering mine tomorrow.  I can't wait.   Idon't know I will be able to SBR it in Missouri or not, but if I can, I sure want to.
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