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Posted: 3/24/2009 6:58:10 PM EDT
It took me awhile to figure this out. Let my pain be your gain.
1) Find a nice, clean, dry 50 cal can: 
2) Place the first layer in like so: 
3) Place the second layer in like so: 
4) Place the third layer in like so: 
5) Place the fourth layer in like so: 
6) Rinse, repeat, and enjoy: 
Getting the entire 1k in a single can really helps ammo OCD folks like me. This also works with Golden Tiger, but Barnaul boxes are too big. |
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Posted: 3/24/2009 7:10:46 PM EDT
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Nice! I'm going to have to do that with what I got today. Is that one pack of desicant enough for one box of ammo? I'm not trying to be smart, I really have no idea as I have never used it for storing ammo before. I have some packs saved up that are about that size is why I'm asking.
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Posted: 3/24/2009 7:31:33 PM EDT
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Nice! I'm going to have to do that with what I got today. Is that one pack of desicant enough for one box of ammo? I'm not trying to be smart, I really have no idea as I have never used it for storing ammo before. I have some packs saved up that are about that size is why I'm asking. More would probably be better, but the packing arrangement does not leave much room. Perhaps several smaller packets would work out. |
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Posted: 3/24/2009 8:10:35 PM EDT
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Holy shit, that is packed tight.
I have to try that. |
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Posted: 3/24/2009 10:48:34 PM EDT
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Nice! I'm going to have to do that with what I got today. Is that one pack of desicant enough for one box of ammo? I'm not trying to be smart, I really have no idea as I have never used it for storing ammo before. I have some packs saved up that are about that size is why I'm asking. 20-25 grams is what I put in my 50 cal cans. |
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Posted: 3/24/2009 11:45:08 PM EDT
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Damm I just packed 10K ok this last week...Oh well great job.
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Posted: 3/25/2009 4:40:23 AM EDT
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CAR_16
Thank you. Excellent job with pics, my ammo-OCD brother! I've been fitting 1500 rounds loose or 1440 rounds boxed of Wolf or GT into SAW cans. But even for the outrageous $15 each, SAW cans are getting rarer than .50s. And I also like round inventotry numbers :D StraightShooter7 is dead on with his disicant spec. A 10g pack of silica gel is spec'd for 1900 cc of empty air. I calc'd my empty SAW cans as needing ~60g and generously use available 33g packs for full, so a regular .50 should be covered with ~25g. -GDubya ––––––––––––––––- 7.62x39: Turning cover into concealment since 1943. |
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Posted: 3/25/2009 9:13:31 PM EDT
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AHHH where were you a month ago. And the month before that. And the month before that! I was asking in every thread relevant to ammo cans and 7.62x39 ammo how to pack 1k of wolf/GT into a .50 cal can, and my pleas were ignored.
I finally found a way. I packed it slightly differently, and it's tight. On the 2 outside rows, it's 4 layers deep. On the center row, it's 3 layers deep. At the bottom, it's 3 layers with the boxes stacked vertically. It leaves a good amount of room at the bottom for desiccant: |
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Posted: 3/26/2009 4:34:28 AM EDT
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AHHH where were you a month ago. And the month before that. And the month before that! I was asking in every thread relevant to ammo cans and 7.62x39 ammo how to pack 1k of wolf/GT into a .50 cal can, and my pleas were ignored. I finally found a way. I packed it slightly differently, and it's tight. On the 2 outside rows, it's 4 layers deep. On the center row, it's 3 layers deep. At the bottom, it's 3 layers with the boxes stacked vertically. It leaves a good amount of room at the bottom for desiccant: http://filestogo.com/files/1006983/BZ3G6FYWX5/.50calcanWolf This is something I thought about doing before, but waited until now since I had a new shipment of WMC to pack. Maybe we could get a tack and include your method of packing in the first post as well? |
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Posted: 3/26/2009 6:29:33 AM EDT
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I usually keep a can around with loose rounds. It takes time to get rid of the little boxes and its easier to load mags from loose rounds.
It must be hard to get the first box out of the can when they are crammed in there like sardines. 
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Posted: 3/26/2009 4:01:57 PM EDT
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Nice.
Most I have gotten in a .50 cal box is 960. Will use your method for the next batch. |
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Posted: 3/26/2009 4:09:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/31/2009 4:19:09 PM EDT
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Has anyone tried this method with other types of 7.62x39?
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Posted: 3/31/2009 5:16:35 PM EDT
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i can fit 1600 rounds (80 x 20 round boxes) in a SAW aka Fat 50 CAN.
Is a little heavy but works good and you can still carry the cans. |
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Posted: 3/31/2009 5:21:57 PM EDT
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I have regular Wolf and Brown Bear I will try that with!
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Posted: 3/31/2009 5:47:59 PM EDT
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Might give this a try with Monarch later.
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Posted: 3/31/2009 7:01:57 PM EDT
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Well, Brown Bear is totally different shape/size box. I did pack 760 rounds of assorted Wolf and Brown Bear in to one can. In my other 7.62 stash I have 4 boxes of Wolf, 3 boxes of American Eagle,12 boxes of Yugo surplus (the stuff that comes 40 rounds per box on stripper clips), and a stripper clip charger for 620 rounds...
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Posted: 4/2/2009 6:52:15 AM EDT
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The amount of desiccant required depends only on the volume of air in the container. 1K of ammo in a .50 cal man doesn't leave much air to dry. I have noted from using the indicating desiccant that even so, a handful of the small packets will max out in a year. I ascribe this to the can not really being airtight. Probably about 5 grams of desiccant is good for a packed can with a good seal for a year. I like to inspect, count, repack and re-desiccant my ammo yearly so I'll know what I need.
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Posted: 4/3/2009 6:32:57 AM EDT
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I'm wimpy and prefer 30 cal cans.
 
Remember, if the SHTF, it may not be a big, strong guy that's helping you. |
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Posted: 4/20/2009 9:13:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/20/2009 2:41:40 PM EDT
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Might give this a try with Monarch later. Shade00........Did you get a chance to try packin 1k of Monarch 7.62X39 in a 50 Cal can? If so, how did it turn out? |
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Posted: 4/22/2009 3:59:20 PM EDT
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Just packed another can of WMC tonight.
ETA: Bathroom scale says it weighs in at 42.6 lb. |
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Posted: 4/23/2009 6:35:34 PM EDT
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Might give this a try with Monarch later. Shade00........Did you get a chance to try packin 1k of Monarch 7.62X39 in a 50 Cal can? If so, how did it turn out? it doesn't work, monarch boxes are much bigger.... |
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Posted: 4/23/2009 7:31:08 PM EDT
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Might give this a try with Monarch later. Shade00........Did you get a chance to try packin 1k of Monarch 7.62X39 in a 50 Cal can? If so, how did it turn out? it doesn't work, monarch boxes are much bigger.... That's what I figured would happen. I have some Monarch Blue Box I need to do something with. Will 500 rds of it fit in the 30 cal cans? |
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Posted: 4/23/2009 8:01:50 PM EDT
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I'm wimpy and prefer 30 cal cans.
Remember, if the SHTF, it may not be a big, strong guy that's helping you. Yes because i am shooting and the wife better be close lugging the ammo, definitely have to go with the 30 cal cans And yeah the bastards at Barnaul had to make a bigger box Oh well |
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Posted: 4/25/2009 5:00:41 PM EDT
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car_16 i wanna come play at your house
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Posted: 4/26/2009 1:14:10 PM EDT
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car_16 i wanna come play at your house Pics were all taken before the boating accident.
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Posted: 4/26/2009 7:02:37 PM EDT
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I just put 3 cases of wolf MC and 13 20 rnd boxes of wincheaster and remington in a 20mm ammo can and it has to weigh a couple hundred freakin pounds.
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Posted: 4/30/2009 7:24:40 AM EDT
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There must be different .50 cal cans, because there's no way all the .50 cal cans I have will allow for a row of 5. Tried this last night with no luck :(
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Posted: 4/30/2009 2:02:14 PM EDT
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There must be different .50 cal cans, because there's no way all the .50 cal cans I have will allow for a row of 5. Tried this last night with no luck :( Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Look carefully at the orientation of the boxes. They are not all turned the same way. |
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Posted: 5/2/2009 2:28:06 PM EDT
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Might give this a try with Monarch later. Shade00........Did you get a chance to try packin 1k of Monarch 7.62X39 in a 50 Cal can? If so, how did it turn out? it doesn't work, monarch boxes are much bigger.... That's what I figured would happen. I have some Monarch Blue Box I need to do something with. Will 500 rds of it fit in the 30 cal cans? 500 rounds of Monarch Blue Box fit perfectly in a 50 cal can...... ...either leave them in the original cardboard box and plastic Academy bag(s)..... 
.....or take them out of the cardboard box and put them directly into the ammo can with them still in the the shipping bag. 
and the weight is only 23lbs |
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Posted: 5/2/2009 10:43:56 PM EDT
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The desiccant works better if the ammo and the desiccant is in a good quality plastic bag inside the ammo can. Also, the paper boxes hold more moisture than the ammo. It is probably a good idea for long term storage to get rid of all the paper then packing protocol is not required.
The ammo boxes, by the time we get them, are usually not really well sealed. What happens is they "exhale" as they get warmed up and the air inside expands and "breath in" cool humid air when they cool off and the air contracts. I left several closed, empty, 50 cal boxes outside for a year protected from the weather and after the four seasons they each had a couple of ounces of water in them. Plastic bags would have protected the ammo and the reduced volume of full capacity storage would reduce the amount of air exchanged by temperature changes. If the cans are kept at constant temperature this is less of a concern, but I still recommend getting rid of the paper and using a good 5 mil plastic bag with desiccant. |
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Posted: 5/3/2009 4:29:03 AM EDT
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The desiccant works better if the ammo and the desiccant is in a good quality plastic bag inside the ammo can. Also, the paper boxes hold more moisture than the ammo. It is probably a good idea for long term storage to get rid of all the paper then packing protocol is not required. The ammo boxes, by the time we get them, are usually not really well sealed. What happens is they "exhale" as they get warmed up and the air inside expands and "breath in" cool humid air when they cool off and the air contracts. I left several closed, empty, 50 cal boxes outside for a year protected from the weather and after the four seasons they each had a couple of ounces of water in them. Plastic bags would have protected the ammo and the reduced volume of full capacity storage would reduce the amount of air exchanged by temperature changes. If the cans are kept at constant temperature this is less of a concern, but I still recommend getting rid of the paper and using a good 5 mil plastic bag with desiccant. When I bring home "new to me" ammo cans I test them by spraying the garden hose all over them......especially around all the sealed areas, sides, front and back. Out of a dozen or so, I have only had one that allowed any water in. I took it back within the next couple of days and exchanged for a different one. If the can is still wet when you open it, a few drops of water will get inside.....this is different than the box having a visible amount of water in it when you open it. I agree that leaving the ammo in a plastic bag, with desiccant, is the best if you plan to store the ammo for a long time. The key thing is to keep the can at a cool and constant temperature and not open the can until you need the ammo. |
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Posted: 5/3/2009 10:56:06 AM EDT
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Got it all figured out.
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Posted: 5/3/2009 11:52:56 AM EDT
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Got it all figured out. Excellent! 
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Posted: 6/23/2009 1:11:43 PM EDT
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I keep coming back to this post. Did this again today, works with Golden Tiger as well.
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Posted: 6/24/2009 4:54:46 PM EDT
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That is great! I think the only improvement would be to put a little string around the boxes on each row if they are packed so tight; so you can then use thr string to pull the first ammo box out; then you have a gap to work the rest out (like my 5.45 tins).
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Posted: 6/24/2009 7:57:54 PM EDT
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It's really not that bad to get the first one out. Mine aren't packed all that tight until you get to the very bottom row.
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Posted: 6/25/2009 2:56:10 AM EDT
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I keep coming back to this post. Did this again today, works with Golden Tiger as well. I am glad y'all are getting so much mileage out of this thread.
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