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Posted: 1/14/2011 4:33:48 PM EDT
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Not a problem. I store all of my go to mags without the tops on, and I function check them regularly. Some are going on 1.5 years with no issues.
My range PMAGS never have the tops and are always loaded, and have been for even longer. No problems with them either, and those are pre M-rev. |
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Posted: 1/14/2011 4:38:18 PM EDT
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I've lost a lot of tops, they all seem to work fine for me.
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Posted: 1/14/2011 6:34:50 PM EDT
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what cover?
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Posted: 1/14/2011 7:45:07 PM EDT
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What is this PMAG you speak of?
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Posted: 1/15/2011 12:34:04 PM EDT
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So, 3 votes for "quit being a fucking crybaby and leave the covers off" and one clown.
 So far so good. Thanks for the responses. Anyone else?
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Posted: 1/16/2011 7:34:43 PM EDT
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I have had most of my PMAG's loaded for about 2.5 years. Half with the covers and half without. I can't tell any difference between them. They all load in my AR just fine.
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Posted: 1/16/2011 8:32:13 PM EDT
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While not the feed lips I did notice that one of my covers that has been on the bottom of a Pmag today didnt "snap" into place when I put it back ontop. It just kinda slugged into place.
I'm going to quietly add some eggs to a different basket.... |
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Posted: 1/16/2011 9:15:31 PM EDT
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There are lots of old threads in the past that discussed storing PMAGs loaded without covers, the're in the thread archives now but generally members had no problems with them, myself included several first gen PMAGs more than a year without the cover doesn't affect it.
Magpul staff also said the same thing but they recommend to keep them covered when loaded, if not they seen no problems or never got any complaints from owners. |
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Posted: 1/16/2011 9:31:29 PM EDT
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Mine wasn't a complaint just an observation. Take it with a grain of salt.
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Posted: 1/17/2011 8:50:36 AM EDT
[#10]
Cool. Thanks gang. I just won't worry about it. I appreciate the responses.
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Posted: 1/17/2011 11:39:09 PM EDT
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I have Thermolds that been loaded for over 4 yrs
No problems |
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Posted: 1/19/2011 5:11:24 PM EDT
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I think covers are only needed if you may get debri in your mags due to environment. Leave them off.
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Posted: 1/19/2011 5:56:01 PM EDT
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Don't keep mine covered either and no problems... However, like mentioned above, I have a couple that the cover won't snap into place anyhow. They'll push on, but not click, and shortly there after come loose.
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Posted: 1/20/2011 6:04:27 AM EDT
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I keep the covers on simply so I don't loose them. Never had a problem.
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Posted: 1/20/2011 2:22:54 PM EDT
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what cover? Exactly!! I wish there were something good to do with those covers besides throw them out. I took a tip from someone on one of the gun boards and used a few covers for practice with stippling plastic. 
My kid would LOVE your avatar. He has about 30 of those lego dudes at any one time. |
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Posted: 1/20/2011 4:19:59 PM EDT
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I need to stop worrying so much and have more gunfun.
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Posted: 1/23/2011 8:10:29 PM EDT
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In addition to the clown, add one A$$ who isn't fully convinced on the PMAGS (although I own 14). Magpuls own literature says you should use them if you are going to store loaded mags for than a year.
See page 16... http://cdn.magpul.com/downloads/PMAG%20-%20Product%20Guide%20090430_BETA.pdf I am seriously looking at dumping my PMAGS and going with the Lancer Warfighters. No feedlip creep, DEET resistant, CLEAR, and now with an anti-tilt follower. I am in wait and see mode to hear some field experience on them. |
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Posted: 1/24/2011 7:46:52 AM EDT
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I am seriously looking at dumping my PMAGS and going with the Lancer Warfighters. No feedlip creep, DEET resistant, CLEAR, and now with an anti-tilt follower. I am in wait and see mode to hear some field experience on them. I haven't heard of those... but the Original Lancers haven't been very impressive to me.... at least the few I've seen at the range. Seems they've each had a malf or two when my buddies have used them. I'm not a Pmag fanboy or anything... I have some.. but I just use the good old USGIs for home defense and most of my training. |
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Posted: 1/24/2011 8:36:37 AM EDT
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In addition to the clown, add one A$$ who isn't fully convinced on the PMAGS (although I own 14). Magpuls own literature says you should use them if you are going to store loaded mags for than a year. See page 16... http://cdn.magpul.com/downloads/PMAG%20-%20Product%20Guide%20090430_BETA.pdf I am seriously looking at dumping my PMAGS and going with the Lancer Warfighters. No feedlip creep, DEET resistant, CLEAR, and now with an anti-tilt follower. I am in wait and see mode to hear some field experience on them. That manual is out dated. It was written before we had enough data (4 years in combat conditions now). The cover is designed for impact protection and to stop debris from entering the magazine when being stored. You do not need them for feedlip creep protection. |
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Posted: 1/24/2011 9:48:06 AM EDT
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In addition to the clown, add one A$$ who isn't fully convinced on the PMAGS (although I own 14). Magpuls own literature says you should use them if you are going to store loaded mags for than a year. See page 16... http://cdn.magpul.com/downloads/PMAG%20-%20Product%20Guide%20090430_BETA.pdf I am seriously looking at dumping my PMAGS and going with the Lancer Warfighters. No feedlip creep, DEET resistant, CLEAR, and now with an anti-tilt follower. I am in wait and see mode to hear some field experience on them. That manual is out dated. It was written before we had enough data (4 years in combat conditions now). The cover is designed for impact protection and to stop debris from entering the magazine when being stored. You do not need them for feedlip creep protection. Magpul, you guys need to get your pmags used at Lake City. Have all the 5.56mm loaded from the factory in Pmags. I'm sick of loading magazines. |
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Posted: 1/24/2011 3:50:02 PM EDT
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In addition to the clown, add one A$$ who isn't fully convinced on the PMAGS (although I own 14). Magpuls own literature says you should use them if you are going to store loaded mags for than a year. See page 16... http://cdn.magpul.com/downloads/PMAG%20-%20Product%20Guide%20090430_BETA.pdf I am seriously looking at dumping my PMAGS and going with the Lancer Warfighters. No feedlip creep, DEET resistant, CLEAR, and now with an anti-tilt follower. I am in wait and see mode to hear some field experience on them. That manual is out dated. It was written before we had enough data (4 years in combat conditions now). The cover is designed for impact protection and to stop debris from entering the magazine when being stored. You do not need them for feedlip creep protection. Then why not take it off the website?????? |
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Posted: 1/24/2011 6:35:10 PM EDT
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In addition to the clown, add one A$$ who isn't fully convinced on the PMAGS (although I own 14). Magpuls own literature says you should use them if you are going to store loaded mags for than a year. See page 16... http://cdn.magpul.com/downloads/PMAG%20-%20Product%20Guide%20090430_BETA.pdf I am seriously looking at dumping my PMAGS and going with the Lancer Warfighters. No feedlip creep, DEET resistant, CLEAR, and now with an anti-tilt follower. I am in wait and see mode to hear some field experience on them. That manual is out dated. It was written before we had enough data (4 years in combat conditions now). The cover is designed for impact protection and to stop debris from entering the magazine when being stored. You do not need them for feedlip creep protection. Then why not take it off the website?????? There is still a lot of good information in there. It really just needs to be rewrittern, however we simply just haven't had the time to devote to the project... |
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Posted: 1/24/2011 8:15:50 PM EDT
[#23]
That is good info to know. I am pitching the annoying dust covers.
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Posted: 1/24/2011 8:37:34 PM EDT
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Swat Dude
send those PMAGS my way if you're gonna get rid of 'em............i'll take'em all; USED PRICE OF COURSE! 
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Posted: 1/25/2011 8:41:44 AM EDT
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Selling mags is like selling guns. I have always regretted it!! Don't get me wrong... I am not a PMAG hater. In fact, my 308 mags blow away anything from DPMS or Knights Armament- the needless markups, I mean, Neiman Marcus of gun manufacturers. (Yeah, you heard me)
I want the perfect mag. If Magpul says they don't creep long term, then I'm sold. I think having dust covers on them in your mag pouches is a recipe for disaster if you get in quick deployment scenario. Like I said, I am pitching the dust covers and just enjoying them. I keep 6 loaded all the time so time will tell if Magpul is right. |
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Posted: 1/25/2011 9:35:49 AM EDT
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I store every one of my Orlites fully loaded. I don't believe they ever made covers for Orlites.
And, as any fanboy knows to a certainty, Orlites are junk  and no match for the mighty P-mag. I'm pretty sure Chuck Norris once tried to make a P-mag drop rounds by kicking it. No dice, so I heard.
Methinks you should stop worrying about it.
Sam |
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Posted: 1/25/2011 3:40:49 PM EDT
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If Chuck can't hurt a PMag, I sure as hell can't!
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Posted: 1/26/2011 6:48:55 PM EDT
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Half the covers for the ones i bought back in 08' don't even stay on anymore. Couldn't store them as Magpul suggests even if i wanted to. A bunch of them have never even been used
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Posted: 1/27/2011 1:29:30 PM EDT
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Half the covers for the ones i bought back in 08' don't even stay on anymore. Couldn't store them as Magpul suggests even if i wanted to. A bunch of them have never even been used Interesting. We don't really ever come across that problem. However bear in mind that while newer covers will always work with older bodies, old covers might not work with newer bodies. If you've got a wide date range of PMAGs this might be your problem. Also, the PMAG can usually be stuffed with 31 rounds which will prevent the cover from snapping on. Regardless, use of the cover is purely optional anyway (we consider it a value-added feature, not a necessity). We've had PMAGs fully loaded for nearly four years now with no cover and have observed no feed lip issues. |
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Posted: 1/27/2011 4:50:28 PM EDT
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Half the covers for the ones i bought back in 08' don't even stay on anymore. Couldn't store them as Magpul suggests even if i wanted to. A bunch of them have never even been used Interesting. We don't really ever come across that problem. However bear in mind that while newer covers will always work with older bodies, old covers might not work with newer bodies. If you've got a wide date range of PMAGs this might be your problem. Also, the PMAG can usually be stuffed with 31 rounds which will prevent the cover from snapping on. Regardless, use of the cover is purely optional anyway (we consider it a value-added feature, not a necessity). We've had PMAGs fully loaded for nearly four years now with no cover and have observed no feed lip issues. Justin, How about a 6.8 PMAG??? |
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Posted: 1/27/2011 10:14:51 PM EDT
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Regardless, use of the cover is purely optional anyway (we consider it a value-added feature, not a necessity). Maybe you should offer mags without the cover for less money. Since we don't need them it would save you time and money that could be passed on to us. |
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Posted: 1/28/2011 6:54:15 AM EDT
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Regardless, use of the cover is purely optional anyway (we consider it a value-added feature, not a necessity). Maybe you should offer mags without the cover for less money. Since we don't need them it would save you time and money that could be passed on to us. Good suggestion. However, even though the Impact/Dust Covers are not considered a necessity, they still are useful (as mentioned above, it's a value-added feature). With them, the PMAG is the only factory equipped M16 magazine that can be sealed against debris intrusion during storage. The cover can also be used as a tool to help remove cartridges from the mag and to help depress the lock plate for removal of the floor plate. Additionally, while the PMAG's feed lips are quite resilient on their own, the cover helps protect them from extreme impact damage in storage/transit. Aside from all the functional features of the Impact/Dust Cover, it is also a branding feature that helps identify it from other polymer mags on the market. Not including a cover with the PMAG will really not save much money at all anyway. Besides, while other manufacturers may raise their prices on their products from time to time to keep up with inflation, we have yet to raise prices on ANY of our products at ANY time (going on 12 years now). This fact alone in essence saves you money over time. 
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Posted: 1/28/2011 6:59:34 AM EDT
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Half the covers for the ones i bought back in 08' don't even stay on anymore. Couldn't store them as Magpul suggests even if i wanted to. A bunch of them have never even been used Interesting. We don't really ever come across that problem. However bear in mind that while newer covers will always work with older bodies, old covers might not work with newer bodies. If you've got a wide date range of PMAGs this might be your problem. Also, the PMAG can usually be stuffed with 31 rounds which will prevent the cover from snapping on. Regardless, use of the cover is purely optional anyway (we consider it a value-added feature, not a necessity). We've had PMAGs fully loaded for nearly four years now with no cover and have observed no feed lip issues. Justin, How about a 6.8 PMAG??? At this time we do not have plans to offer an M16-compatible PMAG for larger calibers such as the 6.8x43 SPC, 6.5 Grendel, or 7.62x39. The primary reason for this is due to the limited physical space inside of the M16 magazine well. In order to accommodate the increased case diameter of these cartridges, and the subsequent widening of the staggered cartridge stack, the walls of the magazine body would have to be dramatically thinned. This is not conducive to a robust polymer magazine design. Additionally, we recommend against using these larger cartridges in the PMAG as they will generally not load or feed correctly. |
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Posted: 1/28/2011 11:50:41 AM EDT
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I store every one of my Orlites fully loaded. I don't believe they ever made covers for Orlites. And, as any fanboy knows to a certainty, Orlites are junk and no match for the mighty P-mag. I'm pretty sure Chuck Norris once tried to make a P-mag drop rounds by kicking it. No dice, so I heard.Methinks you should stop worrying about it.
Sam Chuck Norris has nothing on Chris Costa! 
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Posted: 1/28/2011 12:20:33 PM EDT
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Half the covers for the ones i bought back in 08' don't even stay on anymore. Couldn't store them as Magpul suggests even if i wanted to. A bunch of them have never even been used Interesting. We don't really ever come across that problem. However bear in mind that while newer covers will always work with older bodies, old covers might not work with newer bodies. If you've got a wide date range of PMAGs this might be your problem. Also, the PMAG can usually be stuffed with 31 rounds which will prevent the cover from snapping on. Regardless, use of the cover is purely optional anyway (we consider it a value-added feature, not a necessity). We've had PMAGs fully loaded for nearly four years now with no cover and have observed no feed lip issues. Justin, How about a 6.8 PMAG??? At this time we do not have plans to offer an M16-compatible PMAG for larger calibers such as the 6.8x43 SPC, 6.5 Grendel, or 7.62x39. The primary reason for this is due to the limited physical space inside of the M16 magazine well. In order to accommodate the increased case diameter of these cartridges, and the subsequent widening of the staggered cartridge stack, the walls of the magazine body would have to be dramatically thinned. This is not conducive to a robust polymer magazine design. Additionally, we recommend against using these larger cartridges in the PMAG as they will generally not load or feed correctly. I think you could do it with a little smart engineering. The geometry only needs to be changed slightly to accomodate the fatter cases. As far as the stiffness goes, why not put a rib vertically down the mag where the bullet tapers. Although they are steel, this is what Barrett does and their 6.8 mags are some of the most reliable out there. I guess Magpul has always had enough business that they have stayed pretty mainstream. I'm not sure what the market share of 6.8 is but I know a 6.8 PMAG would be very well received by the 6.8 community. |
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Posted: 1/28/2011 3:10:22 PM EDT
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Half the covers for the ones i bought back in 08' don't even stay on anymore. Couldn't store them as Magpul suggests even if i wanted to. A bunch of them have never even been used Interesting. We don't really ever come across that problem. However bear in mind that while newer covers will always work with older bodies, old covers might not work with newer bodies. If you've got a wide date range of PMAGs this might be your problem. Also, the PMAG can usually be stuffed with 31 rounds which will prevent the cover from snapping on. Regardless, use of the cover is purely optional anyway (we consider it a value-added feature, not a necessity). We've had PMAGs fully loaded for nearly four years now with no cover and have observed no feed lip issues. I was just looking today, and several of my covers don't have a notch cut into them. Looking at the mag, there is a notch where the cover sits in, and on a bunch of my covers they are just straight across, if that makes sense. Several covers have the notch cut out and several don't. That would explain why they don't fit on the mags. Maybe i've mixed up covers with mags, but the mags are all from 08' i'm pretty sure. A bunch of my covers that are sitting in the drawer cause they don't work have an 07 stamp on them. |
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Posted: 1/29/2011 9:02:03 AM EDT
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Half the covers for the ones i bought back in 08' don't even stay on anymore. Couldn't store them as Magpul suggests even if i wanted to. A bunch of them have never even been used Interesting. We don't really ever come across that problem. However bear in mind that while newer covers will always work with older bodies, old covers might not work with newer bodies. If you've got a wide date range of PMAGs this might be your problem. Also, the PMAG can usually be stuffed with 31 rounds which will prevent the cover from snapping on. Regardless, use of the cover is purely optional anyway (we consider it a value-added feature, not a necessity). We've had PMAGs fully loaded for nearly four years now with no cover and have observed no feed lip issues. I was just looking today, and several of my covers don't have a notch cut into them. Looking at the mag, there is a notch where the cover sits in, and on a bunch of my covers they are just straight across, if that makes sense. Several covers have the notch cut out and several don't. That would explain why they don't fit on the mags. Maybe i've mixed up covers with mags, but the mags are all from 08' i'm pretty sure. A bunch of my covers that are sitting in the drawer cause they don't work have an 07 stamp on them. Yeah, sounds like that's the problem. Earlier PMAGs did not have the notch in the cover or the corresponding ridge on the mag body. So while the newer covers with the notch will work on all generations, the older covers will not fit more recent styles. However, you can always file a notch in the old covers to make them more universal. |
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