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any plans to offer something similar for the regular handguards line ? streamline, no QD, MLok.
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These should be ready in about 4 weeks. Quoted:
any plans to offer something similar for the regular handguards line ? streamline, no QD, MLok. thanks Nothing like that planned. |
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What are the plans for lengths?
EDIT: and what is the internal diameter? |
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Interesting...I like the smooth application. Snag free, but suckers like me who use a pivot lock QD suppressor are still out of luck. (gives me an excuse to buy a 10.5" for an 11" build...)
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suckers like me who use a pivot lock QD suppressor are still out of luck. (gives me an excuse to buy a 10.5" for an 11" build...) View Quote I use 51 tooth AAC cans under rails, and it just takes some work to get them free and using something to push in on detents or release points. The larger problem becomes if the can locks up with carbon. If it does, you need to pull the rail to beat everything free. |
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This series is very easy to put on and take off. Literally a two minute job to remove them. We had this in mind when I did the design .
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For a larger rail, I love how streamlined it looks! I'm sure this will appeal to a good chunk of the suppressor owners out there looking to set their rifles up like this.
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This series is very easy to put on and take off. Literally a two minute job to remove them. We had this in mind when I did the design . Troy MI View Quote I was just going to ask about how hard it was to remove the rail, as that is a pre-req for me on rails with a recessed bbl. Sounds like another solid design from MI! |
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lengths will be 7.25 9.25 10.5 12.625 15.00 internal diameter is 1.760 thanks TROY MI View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What are the plans for lengths? EDIT: and what is the internal diameter? lengths will be 7.25 9.25 10.5 12.625 15.00 internal diameter is 1.760 thanks TROY MI Thanks Troy ... and Pete. Good size, should be able to fit most, if not all size cans. |
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Weights please?
These look slick. I was sold on your Gen 2 SS model for my newest build but this may'be just thrown a wrench in my plans. Any chance of posting up some side by side comparison pics of your different rail options? |
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Weights please? These look slick. I was sold on your Gen 2 SS model for my newest build but this may'be just thrown a wrench in my plans. Any chance of posting up some side by side comparison pics of your different rail options? View Quote The 12.625 hand guard is 12.8 oz this includes barrel nut and mounting hardware. this is 3.4 oz heavier than a G3M in the same length. The internal diameter was chosen to fit with most all cans out there and still be able to use M lok accessories in the slots directly over the installed suppressor. Troy MI |
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Once we get through the M LOK models . We will then see what kind of demand there is for keymod .
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Looks like the barrel nut needs to be timed unlike the gen3...do you plan to release this SP model for a while and then, sometime later, release an upgrade model that does not need to be timed...in the SP type? Is there any way you can make this one so it doesn't need to be timed...rather than release this now and an untimed one later?
Could you describe the process of removing the handguard...or better yet, post a two minute video of the process? I ask this for those of who'll have the remove the handguard to dismount the can. You said it was a two minute process, but I didn't see a description...or am I blind? I don't read well on my phone. |
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Looks like the barrel nut needs to be timed unlike the gen3...do you plan to release this SP model for a while and then, sometime later, release an upgrade model that does not need to be timed...in the SP type? Is there any way you can make this one so it doesn't need to be timed...rather than release this now and an untimed one later? Could you describe the process of removing the handguard...or better yet, post a two minute video of the process? I ask this for those of who'll have the remove the handguard to dismount the can. You said it was a two minute process, but I didn't see a description...or am I blind? I don't read well on my phone. View Quote Timing the barrel nut is very easy . No need on delaying or re do the part because of that . I am sure we will have a installation video showing install and removal. thanks Troy MI |
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Retail on the 12 inch M LOK version is $174.95 Thanks Troy MI View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Estimate price range? Retail on the 12 inch M LOK version is $174.95 Thanks Troy MI I was planning on going a different route with my SBR, but you guys have taken a sure thing and made it a conundrum! |
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"Development and design came from the request of our customers to bring to market a handguard that will give the user the ability to attach their suppressor internally. "
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Will it clear a piston system? I have a LWRC PSD and am looking for a different rail.
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Quoted: Will it clear a piston system? I have a LWRC PSD and am looking for a different rail. View Quote Having said all that, I'm really turning into a fan of MI as a handguard manufacturer. I have two of the SSMs at 9", one of the old school 308 SS high tangs for a MATEN, and just received a 15" G3M that is intended for a Grendel. This idea of moving to shrouding handguards for suppressors is a great move for MI. I really...really...hope you guys do a great in the design process because I know your manufacturing is spot on. I'm not a huge fan of the current photos of the SP series only because it looks a little clunky. But I should prob punch myself in the face for that. Anyway, please bring all your great design prowess to this SP series and I think MI will be THE company to buy a handguard from. Edited to add....I think the clunkiness that I'm griping about is because of the mlok rails on the 45deg angles...the smaller diameter SSMs have larger holes cut at the 45deg mark and have sleeker lines along those edges. The greater amount of material, at those spots, gives a little heavier look in comparison to the SSM. ..these SPs are basically just blown out G3s and all that extra material gives a heavy look. The SSM has a bit sleeker lines which the G3 and SP lack, but the benefit is having mlok mounts at the 45deg angle. Iow, what I'm griping about is probably just a balancing of interests....that is, do you have the mlok mounts at 45deg or do you have larger holes for more air circulation and (possibly) sleeker look and minuscule weight savings...? Idk but it's probably not a big deal and more ppl may find the 45deg mlok mounts more beneficial, especially on a suppressed SBR application where those mounts are more likely to provide benefit. I actually didn't realize the G3 had the 45deg mounts, unlike the SSM. I just got the G3 because I needed a guard for a Grendel I'm building (for a family member, not me sadly). I do hope you will put anti-rot QD mounts on the final product, tho. Is this a prototype in the photo? The "dehorning" or deburring along the sharp(ish) right-angle lines is a definite plus..one of the best features of MI guards, honestly. My biggest question is was......why not use the G3 anti rotation mount, but it appears that you did use a version it, likely because of the bigger diameter of the guard. So I think this SP model is going to be taken off and put back on a bunch of times (or at least more than the not-SP models) due to suppressors. Will constantly removing and re-torquing wear down the aluminum of the guard or the anti rotation mechanism? ..it appears that the steel-looking tab locks into the barrel nut somehow and thereby prevents rotation of the guard...what does the bottom of the barrel nut look like...or does that steel tab mount into the same spot/teeth the gas tube rides through? ...I'm trying to understand how the anti-rotation mechanism works, and I'm failing hard. Are there any weak spots that may become stressed from repeated re-torquing of the handguard back onto the barrel nut? Do you have a recommended torquing (inch-lbs) for the two screws mounting the guard to the barrel nut? |
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MI says "internal diameter is 1.760" ...so you'll have to measure your piston rig/setup. But, if I'm not mistaken, the LWRC PSD comes with a handguard shrouding the piston block already (or piston operating group...or whatever it's called)....no? Anyway, either measure the internal diameter of the handguard that came with it or measure the widest point on the piston assembly. I'm thinking the LWRC piston assembly *ought* to fit inside a 1.76" hole, but ehhh I'm just going off photos on the interwebs. Having said all that, I'm really turning into a fan of MI as a handguard manufacturer. I have two of the SSMs at 9", one of the old school 308 SS high tangs for a MATEN, and just received a 15" G3M that is intended for a Grendel. This idea of moving to shrouding handguards for suppressors is a great move for MI. I really...really...hope you guys do a great in the design process because I know your manufacturing is spot on. I'm not a huge fan of the current photos of the SP series only because it looks a little clunky. But I should prob punch myself in the face for that. Anyway, please bring all your great design prowess to this SP series and I think MI will be THE company to buy a handguard from. Edited to add....I think the clunkiness that I'm griping about is because of the mlok rails on the 45deg angles...the smaller diameter SSMs have larger holes cut at the 45deg mark and have sleeker lines along those edges. The greater amount of material, at those spots, gives a little heavier look in comparison to the SSM. ..these SPs are basically just blown out G3s and all that extra material gives a heavy look. The SSM has a bit sleeker lines which the G3 and SP lack, but the benefit is having mlok mounts at the 45deg angle. Iow, what I'm griping about is probably just a balancing of interests....that is, do you have the mlok mounts at 45deg or do you have larger holes for more air circulation and (possibly) sleeker look and minuscule weight savings...? Idk but it's probably not a big deal and more ppl may find the 45deg mlok mounts more beneficial, especially on a suppressed SBR application where those mounts are more likely to provide benefit. I actually didn't realize the G3 had the 45deg mounts, unlike the SSM. I just got the G3 because I needed a guard for a Grendel I'm building (for a family member, not me sadly). I do hope you will put anti-rot QD mounts on the final product, tho. Is this a prototype in the photo? The "dehorning" or deburring along the sharp(ish) right-angle lines is a definite plus..one of the best features of MI guards, honestly. My biggest question is was......why not use the G3 anti rotation mount, but it appears that you did use a version it, likely because of the bigger diameter of the guard. So I think this SP model is going to be taken off and put back on a bunch of times (or at least more than the not-SP models) due to suppressors. Will constantly removing and re-torquing wear down the aluminum of the guard or the anti rotation mechanism? ..it appears that the steel-looking tab locks into the barrel nut somehow and thereby prevents rotation of the guard...what does the bottom of the barrel nut look like...or does that steel tab mount into the same spot/teeth the gas tube rides through? ...I'm trying to understand how the anti-rotation mechanism works, and I'm failing hard. Are there any weak spots that may become stressed from repeated re-torquing of the handguard back onto the barrel nut? Do you have a recommended torquing (inch-lbs) for the two screws mounting the guard to the barrel nut? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Will it clear a piston system? I have a LWRC PSD and am looking for a different rail. Having said all that, I'm really turning into a fan of MI as a handguard manufacturer. I have two of the SSMs at 9", one of the old school 308 SS high tangs for a MATEN, and just received a 15" G3M that is intended for a Grendel. This idea of moving to shrouding handguards for suppressors is a great move for MI. I really...really...hope you guys do a great in the design process because I know your manufacturing is spot on. I'm not a huge fan of the current photos of the SP series only because it looks a little clunky. But I should prob punch myself in the face for that. Anyway, please bring all your great design prowess to this SP series and I think MI will be THE company to buy a handguard from. Edited to add....I think the clunkiness that I'm griping about is because of the mlok rails on the 45deg angles...the smaller diameter SSMs have larger holes cut at the 45deg mark and have sleeker lines along those edges. The greater amount of material, at those spots, gives a little heavier look in comparison to the SSM. ..these SPs are basically just blown out G3s and all that extra material gives a heavy look. The SSM has a bit sleeker lines which the G3 and SP lack, but the benefit is having mlok mounts at the 45deg angle. Iow, what I'm griping about is probably just a balancing of interests....that is, do you have the mlok mounts at 45deg or do you have larger holes for more air circulation and (possibly) sleeker look and minuscule weight savings...? Idk but it's probably not a big deal and more ppl may find the 45deg mlok mounts more beneficial, especially on a suppressed SBR application where those mounts are more likely to provide benefit. I actually didn't realize the G3 had the 45deg mounts, unlike the SSM. I just got the G3 because I needed a guard for a Grendel I'm building (for a family member, not me sadly). I do hope you will put anti-rot QD mounts on the final product, tho. Is this a prototype in the photo? The "dehorning" or deburring along the sharp(ish) right-angle lines is a definite plus..one of the best features of MI guards, honestly. My biggest question is was......why not use the G3 anti rotation mount, but it appears that you did use a version it, likely because of the bigger diameter of the guard. So I think this SP model is going to be taken off and put back on a bunch of times (or at least more than the not-SP models) due to suppressors. Will constantly removing and re-torquing wear down the aluminum of the guard or the anti rotation mechanism? ..it appears that the steel-looking tab locks into the barrel nut somehow and thereby prevents rotation of the guard...what does the bottom of the barrel nut look like...or does that steel tab mount into the same spot/teeth the gas tube rides through? ...I'm trying to understand how the anti-rotation mechanism works, and I'm failing hard. Are there any weak spots that may become stressed from repeated re-torquing of the handguard back onto the barrel nut? Do you have a recommended torquing (inch-lbs) for the two screws mounting the guard to the barrel nut? If you look at the hand guard you will see that we do have M LOK slots on seven sides . This does give it a different look than a SSM series and since the diameter is larger it may look a bit bulkier to some. The anti rotation on this hand guard is under the top rail . There are two large tabs machined into the top keeping it from rotating . The torque plate controls the amount gap the hand guard is tightened to and also keeps the unit from sliding to the front . The post on the torque plate rides in the groove of the barrel nut. We will have a recommended torque spec included with each unit . We had to use a different design than G3 since this part is a much larger diameter . This system in testing has proven to be extremely rugged and has exceeded our expectations. Troy MI |
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I like it a lot. I like that I can mount to an MLOK slot at 10 o'clock.
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I can't wait, this just what I've been searching for on my 10.3 pistol (until my form1 is approved) build
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I LIKE IT! The only change I would suggest is having integrated QD points like you have on your other rails. Any word on release date?
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These looks great. Any plans for a DPMS style .308 handguard?
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Im in for one also. Any update on release date for the 12" M Lok ?
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12.625 inch model with barrel nut and mounting hardware is 12.8 oz.
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I'm definitely getting one!
And good job mi on the thicker rail, I'm not liking the ultra slim/skinny rails. |
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Can you please update us on the release dates for the various lengths? And prices?
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We are working on them. I hope every two to three weeks another length will follow.
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Any guesses what will be released next, more specifically when the 10.5 will be released
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I've always been happy with MI rail products so I just ordered the 12" for the promo price with free s/h. Going on a 8" 300blk w SDN6. Cant wait!
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