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Posted: 12/18/2010 7:17:44 AM EDT
Bullshit.
This was taken from a friends game camera in Catarina Texas. Thought ya'll might like to see them. 
There are two lions in the pic. Look behind the feeder coming down the sendero. |
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Posted: 12/18/2010 7:25:29 AM EDT
[#1]
Nice kitty. |
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Posted: 12/18/2010 7:27:19 AM EDT
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Got a nice black one around Double Oak, seen a few of these things in the Argyle area close to me.
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Posted: 12/18/2010 7:42:14 AM EDT
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Looks pretty hungry. |
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Posted: 12/18/2010 8:18:20 AM EDT
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Judging from past cat identification threads, Arfcom will probably call it a cheetah, canadian lynx, or a '76 buick.
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Posted: 12/18/2010 8:20:49 AM EDT
[#5]
Nice looking cats!
No mountain lions in TX cause they call them Puma's there.... 
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Posted: 12/18/2010 8:21:52 AM EDT
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They're here alright. Seen several.
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Posted: 12/18/2010 8:44:33 AM EDT
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That there is what we call a Cougar or Mountain lion. The Puma name is reserved for those illegal cats coming in from South America. There are rare sightings in my area (between Abilene and Wichita Falls). I have never seen one, but have seen very large cat tracks making the hair on my neck stand up. (You are not at the top of the food chain when being stalked by a big cat)
Did you know that the Mountain lion/Cougar/Puma is the only large cat to purr like a house cat. |
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Posted: 12/18/2010 8:49:34 AM EDT
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Yeah I've always called them cougars here. In fact this week I was at my boss' ranch trying to find some of those kittys! The boss just lost a bunch of baby goats to "something" and we're pretty sure it's a cougar. Trail cams have been set up around the goats, so we'll see soon enough.
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Posted: 12/18/2010 8:56:49 AM EDT
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It's obviously a panther. Or is it a cougar? I always confuse the two...
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Posted: 12/18/2010 9:13:15 AM EDT
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It's obviously a panther. Or is it a cougar? I always confuse the two... Uh...school me on the difference? |
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Posted: 12/18/2010 9:16:50 AM EDT
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According to Kansas Dep't of Wildlife and Parks, there are no mountain lions in Kansas.
All of the mountain lion sightings are of bobcats and housecats. And all of the actual mountain lions that are found in Kansas, photographed, hit by cars, or otherwise positively identified, are just visiting temporarily from Nebraska.* *I swear to God, this is the actual explanation. The lions don't live here, they just come down following game and then go back. |
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Posted: 12/18/2010 9:51:39 AM EDT
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It's obviously a panther. Or is it a cougar? I always confuse the two... Uh...school me on the difference? Panther, Puma, Cougar, Painter, Catamount, Mountain Lion. They are all names to describe the same critter, Puma Concolor.(recently changed from Felis Concolor), the largest of the non-roaring cats. In fact there are about 40 or so names used for this cat. They range from the artic circle to Tierra Del Fuego. There is no doubt that the cat in the OP's pic is a Mountain Lion. I also have no doubt that there is a RESIDENT population in KS, regardless of what KDWP has to say about it. And contrary to popular belief, the Mountain Lion is NEVER found in a black phase. A black phase has NEVER been documented. Any black cats seen by people are either black phase Leopards, black phase Jaguars, jagaurundi, or possibly misidentified labs. The name Panther is also used to identify black Leopards and Jaguars. Leopards obviously are not native to North or South America but many have them as pets and they get loose. In fact a KS bowhunter killed on near Emporia in the 90's that was apparently hunting the hunter. Jaguars and Jagaurundi are South and Central American cats but their native range extends into Texas, New Mexico and Arizona. They are very rare there but some of the largest Jaguars killed are Arizona cats. There is also a suspected population of Jagaurundis along the New Mexico Colorado border in the Sugarite area. Thanks for tuning in. 
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Posted: 12/18/2010 9:55:36 AM EDT
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They are in central Tx on Ft Hood. When I used to hunt there and assist with the guided hunts we would be warned repeatedly not to shoot them. I certain some "stray" occasionally.
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Posted: 12/18/2010 10:38:00 AM EDT
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Obviously a Bobcat, add a poll and you'll be learned
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Posted: 12/18/2010 11:05:50 AM EDT
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Quoted: Judging from past cat identification threads, Arfcom will probably call it a cheetah, canadian lynx, or a '76 buick. Silly, that is a .................................................................. Chipmunk, maybe a Muskrat in the background. |
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Posted: 12/18/2010 11:08:10 AM EDT
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Mountain Lion is a popular name. The scientific name is Puma concolor with the subspecies named Cougar or Puma (Southern South America) with a geographical designation. A Cougar in Texas would be a North American Cougar. Cougars are mostly on the rebound in their former habitats probably because of the reintroduction of prey species and a lack of hunting.
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Posted: 12/18/2010 12:03:13 PM EDT
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According to Kansas Dep't of Wildlife and Parks, there are no mountain lions in Kansas. All of the mountain lion sightings are of bobcats and housecats. And all of the actual mountain lions that are found in Kansas, photographed, hit by cars, or otherwise positively identified, are just visiting temporarily from Nebraska.* *I swear to God, this is the actual explanation. The lions don't live here, they just come down following game and then go back. Cougar/mountain lion have an almost unbelievable travel range. Several years ago there was a case.... trying to remember the details, but IIRC there was a cat that was tranqed and tagged in South Dakota by some organization, 7 days after release it was hit by a car and killed in like extreme northern Oklahoma. Something like 800 miles in 7 days . With that kind of travel range all the old "there are no mountain lion here" mantra is out the window.
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....a lack of hunting. Since there are officially none here, guess they won't mind if I shoot any I see on sight. Meow. PS: What round for non-existent mountain lion? IBTP. |
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Posted: 12/18/2010 1:30:21 PM EDT
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According to Kansas Dep't of Wildlife and Parks, there are no mountain lions in Kansas. All of the mountain lion sightings are of bobcats and housecats. And all of the actual mountain lions that are found in Kansas, photographed, hit by cars, or otherwise positively identified, are just visiting temporarily from Nebraska.* *I swear to God, this is the actual explanation. The lions don't live here, they just come down following game and then go back. Cougar/mountain lion have an almost unbelievable travel range. Several years ago there was a case.... trying to remember the details, but IIRC there was a cat that was tranqed and tagged in South Dakota by some organization, 7 days after release it was hit by a car and killed in like extreme northern Oklahoma. Something like 800 miles in 7 days . With that kind of travel range all the old "there are no mountain lion here" mantra is out the window.
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....a lack of hunting. Since there are officially none here, guess they won't mind if I shoot any I see on sight. Meow. PS: What round for non-existent mountain lion? IBTP. my buddy hunts them and he uses a 17 HMR. This is in Texas too. Funny story; our hunters from Dallas have been telling us that they have been seeing a bunch of mountain lions. We were getting worried them they called me to come check out a lion they got......it was a bobcat |
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Posted: 12/18/2010 3:23:19 PM EDT
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Judging from past cat identification threads, Arfcom will probably call it a cheetah, canadian lynx, or a '76 buick. Silly, that is a .................................................................. Chipmunk, maybe a Muscrat in the background. I really cant beleave neither of you guys have never seen a posum. Its big for a possum, but I swear thats what it is...
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Posted: 12/18/2010 3:33:16 PM EDT
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a friend of mine has a lease near Boerne and he's convinced there's one out there
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Posted: 12/18/2010 3:38:15 PM EDT
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It's obviously a panther. Or is it a cougar? I always confuse the two... Uh...school me on the difference? Panther, Puma, Cougar, Painter, Catamount, Mountain Lion. They are all names to describe the same critter, Puma Concolor.(recently changed from Felis Concolor), the largest of the non-roaring cats. In fact there are about 40 or so names used for this cat. They range from the artic circle to Tierra Del Fuego. There is no doubt that the cat in the OP's pic is a Mountain Lion. I also have no doubt that there is a RESIDENT population in KS, regardless of what KDWP has to say about it. And contrary to popular belief, the Mountain Lion is NEVER found in a black phase. A black phase has NEVER been documented. Any black cats seen by people are either black phase Leopards, black phase Jaguars, jagaurundi, or possibly misidentified labs. The name Panther is also used to identify black Leopards and Jaguars. Leopards obviously are not native to North or South America but many have them as pets and they get loose. In fact a KS bowhunter killed on near Emporia in the 90's that was apparently hunting the hunter. Jaguars and Jagaurundi are South and Central American cats but their native range extends into Texas, New Mexico and Arizona. They are very rare there but some of the largest Jaguars killed are Arizona cats. There is also a suspected population of Jagaurundis along the New Mexico Colorado border in the Sugarite area. Thanks for tuning in.
Arctic Circle???? 
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Posted: 12/18/2010 3:50:37 PM EDT
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I came across a Mountain Lion when I worked in Big Bend Nat'l Park back in 2001. I was walking from our bunkhouse to use a pay phone at the visitor center about .5 miles away. There was no moon out which meant it was pitch black out. I had only my headlamp and it caught the reflection of its eyes. I originally thought it was a deer or kit fox as there were a shit ton of those around. I didn't realize it was a mountain lion until I was about 20 yards from it. I about shit myself.
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Posted: 12/18/2010 3:54:42 PM EDT
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That's a hungry looking opossum you've got there.
Better feed it something. |
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Posted: 12/18/2010 4:00:51 PM EDT
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driving thru south Paris on the loop in Lamar Co this afternoon saw a large cat crossing the road ahead upon getting close enough we realized it was a lynx, about 50lbs easy and beautiful
there are big cats in Texas..
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Posted: 12/18/2010 4:03:22 PM EDT
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I've never heard anyone say there aren't any mountain lions in Texas. I've seen them.
Nice pic, BTW. |
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Posted: 12/18/2010 4:14:41 PM EDT
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Quite the majestic possum!
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Posted: 12/18/2010 4:16:10 PM EDT
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How high were the fences?
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Posted: 12/18/2010 4:21:01 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quite the majestic possum! Damn it, it's a horse. |
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Posted: 12/18/2010 7:25:10 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Judging from past cat identification threads, Arfcom will probably call it a cheetah, canadian lynx, or a '76 buick. Silly, that is a .................................................................. Chipmunk, maybe a Muskrat in the background. I really cant beleave neither of you guys have never seen a posum. Its big for a possum, but I swear thats what it is...  Are you saying that I am wrong? You know MO Dept. Of Conserv. says there are none of those in MO either. Never mind that they have several on pics and on video in NE MO. I also heard that they got videotaped releasing one in NE MO, but I have no proof of that. just what was told from someone that attended a "Town Hall" meeting on the subject several years ago. When Game Wardens were saying there were none, and someone said oh yeah, then what is this? |
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Posted: 12/18/2010 9:36:42 PM EDT
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Nice miniature mock up, I almost thought it was real except you could see some glue spots here and there. Your buddy should be in Hollywood. Also, that's a great looking Siamese cat, do you know the breeder?
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Posted: 12/18/2010 11:18:52 PM EDT
[#31]
Driven through there a few times before on the way to Corpus. Next to nothing out there. Saw tracks west of Del Rio near the seminole canyon area but have never seen a cat
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Posted: 12/18/2010 11:39:02 PM EDT
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Did you know that the Mountain lion/Cougar/Puma is the only large cat to purr like a house cat. No. All cats purr at the same frequency. Purring Cheetah |
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Posted: 12/19/2010 5:18:28 AM EDT
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We had a confirmed sighting by the Indiana Department of Natural Resources 18 miles from my home:
http://www.in.gov/portal/news_events/53876.htm The photos are large, so I'll hotlink to them for those on dial-up: http://www.dnr.in.gov/images/co-dnr-lion1.jpg http://www.dnr.in.gov/images/co-dnr-lion2.jpg Recently, one was spotted 5 miles from my home by a county police officer feeding on a roadkill deer! |
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Posted: 12/19/2010 5:34:41 AM EDT
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Quoted: Bullshit. I don't know why someone would say this. I'm just one guy and I've seen three of them in three different places - At Medina Lake, in the suburbs of San Antonio, and in a rural area just east of Austin. |
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Posted: 12/19/2010 6:40:19 AM EDT
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Nice miniature mock up, I almost thought it was real except you could see some glue spots here and there. Your buddy should be in Hollywood. Also, that's a great looking Siamese cat, do you know the breeder? I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say. Perhaps you forgot the sarcastic smiley? Surely, you can't be serious. |
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Posted: 12/19/2010 7:58:04 AM EDT
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Nice miniature mock up, I almost thought it was real except you could see some glue spots here and there. Your buddy should be in Hollywood. Also, that's a great looking Siamese cat, do you know the breeder? I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say. Perhaps you forgot the sarcastic smiley? Surely, you can't be serious. I am serious, and please don't call me Shirley. 
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Posted: 12/19/2010 3:37:42 PM EDT
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Guys it's pretty simple, The reason the DNR, came commission, or what ever your state wants to call them say that there are no cougars in your state is because if there were cougars in your state then they would have to "Manage" them. Spend money and time trying to figure out how many there are, where they are, and protect them from hunters, ranchers, ect.....
If they just stick their head in the sand they don't have to spend the slim resources they have managing them. |
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Posted: 12/19/2010 6:31:53 PM EDT
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Funny thing, my dad told me just tonight that he saw one last week walking through his back yard. This is in Austin. I told him he was getting a game cam for Christmas.
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Posted: 12/19/2010 7:01:50 PM EDT
[#39]
could be a plain old vanilla african lion
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Posted: 12/20/2010 8:17:17 AM EDT
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I belive VaFish is correct. If game departments remain in "ignorant bliss" about the mountain lions in their states us hunters will take care of the problem.
Once they announce cougars exist its time for an expensive study to determine population densities. Then the tree huggers can claim they are an "endangered species" in your area. Then nothing gets done about them for forty or fifty years while several dozen more tax-payer funded "studies" are done. Finally, after several court battles, it is decided that a hunting season is needed to help control the states 50,000 mountain lions and a first year bag limit of 12 male lions is allowed. |
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Posted: 12/20/2010 12:12:33 PM EDT
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they deny deny deny that we have them here in middle georgia, but i know far too many back country folk that wouldn't gain anything by lying about it that have told me they personally saw one. my father in law has seen two in his life, both black, while deer hunting. i know he wouldn't lie about it, there's just no good reason for it.
the DNR also likes to downplay the wild dog and coyote problem here, but it exists none the less. we take any dog without a collar at this point. i don't care what any biologist says, if there is a food source, top level predators will make their way in. |
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Posted: 12/20/2010 12:55:00 PM EDT
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Georgia DNR will admit to a chupacabra infestation before they acknowledge cats.
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Posted: 12/20/2010 1:10:08 PM EDT
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I've never heard of anyone saying there are no mountain lions in Texas. Just look at the Texas Dept. of Wildlife webpage. They lump them in with coyotes and feral pigs, no season or anything. Most of the hunting outfitters in west Texas offer mountain lion hunting. Just because they're there doesn't mean the state has to manage them as a game animal, its up to the state how they manage the animals they have. In this case, Texas manages them as varmints.
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Posted: 12/20/2010 4:03:04 PM EDT
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I have serious doubts that this is a bob cat print I found on my place:
The number of deer are way down this year too. |
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Posted: 12/20/2010 4:34:18 PM EDT
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I've never heard of anyone saying there are no mountain lions in Texas. Just look at the Texas Dept. of Wildlife webpage. They lump them in with coyotes and feral pigs, no season or anything. Most of the hunting outfitters in west Texas offer mountain lion hunting. Just because they're there doesn't mean the state has to manage them as a game animal, its up to the state how they manage the animals they have. In this case, Texas manages them as varmints. I just googled "Texas parks and wildlife mountain lion" and got this: Texas P+W In Texas, the Mountain Lion is found throughout the Trans-Pecos, as well as the brushlands of south Texas and portions of the Hill Country. Sighting and kill reports indicate that Mountain Lions now occur in more counties than they did 10 years ago and appear to be expanding their range into central Texas.
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Posted: 12/21/2010 2:29:08 AM EDT
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great looking animal.
The cat does not look hungry, a healthy one is like a healthy dog, a bit of rib should show. We Americans tend to have a warped view of what is healthy in animals and ourselves. Note the shiny smooth coat and rippling muscles. That is a very happy kitty. While hunting in AZ 13 years ago I saw a big cat eat a cow it took down on BLM land. I did not chase javalina in that area! It's face and head was covered in blood. I am glad I was glassing when I spotted it and did not walk up on the cat while it was eating lunch. |
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Posted: 12/21/2010 4:15:30 AM EDT
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Quoted: Note the shiny smooth coat and rippling muscles. That is a very happy kitty. While I am not on the "bring back the wolves" bandwagon, I for one am extremely pleased with the resurgence of mountain lions/cougars/pumas. |
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Posted: 12/21/2010 4:38:15 AM EDT
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Same story in Kentucky. Fish and Wildlife still claim there are no mountain lions in Kentucky......yet they have been photo'd, hit by cars and even accidentally shot in background of news stories. If you argue with Fish and Wildlife and say that there are and they are on youtube videos to prove it, they then claim that these aren't native born cats but only exotic pets that have escaped and are now roaming free. None came here from the west or live here. Just escaped pets.
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Posted: 12/21/2010 4:43:01 AM EDT
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holy crap! that thing looks healthy! i would probably crap myself if he came walking up on me.
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Posted: 12/21/2010 9:36:44 AM EDT
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There are lots of cats in Texas
I used to go to a ranch outside Crane that had three huge cats in cages... like a giant kitty fortress. Climbed the cleft of a butte in West Texas outside Marfa to find an obvious mountain lion lair Found some home woods for a cat at a lease outside Blanco - creepy, the smell and left overs was really interesting There is local talk of a "black panther/s" that resides in betwenn Cherokee and Mullen area - I have herd this from several independent sources. |
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