I am looking at using the Tactical Tailor 3 day enhanced assault pack, and it is 2847 cu in.

Tactical Tailor also sells a 4400 Cubic inch Modified Alice pack as well.

Would the 2847 be enough, or do I need more room than that for 3 days of basic survival gear?

UPDATE- The 3 Day pack will not be big enough. I am narrowing the choices down to two- the TT Malice Pack and the Kirafu Navigator.

The only issue with them is the price. The TT pack is $340 with everything I may want, while the Kirafu is $543.

In terms of durability and comfort, is the Kirafu worth the extra $200?

That should be plenty.

Something to keep in mind. That pack doesn't look like it has much of a frame built into it. If you don't keep your load real light, that pack will be less than comfortable. I think there has been some threads on this forum concerning this very issue.

It depends on you and what prepared means to you.

For me I have a 3900 that isn't nearly enough....

Are you going to have just this one pack as a BOB

or will you have a 3 day and an INCH (I'm never coming home) bag

Agree, you want comfort if you are Buggin. As for size... what are your plans.... off to another property. How long will it take? If another property, is it established or you will have to take a temp shelter? Water, food, clothes, how long? All this rolls into it. I have made a 25 mile trek across the county to a family members house after work on Friday (during a dam snow storm) with a 3,000 Cuin. It was not fun, but when the big oune goes off, it will be Mr Murphy saying... BAD day asshole. In the summer the same trek was decent with a CondorII, minus comfort. As a result all the GHBs are condors, the BOB is Kifaru, and I have a dozen between them. But everyone is differnt. Whichever way you go. Load it up, set a route, coordinate with friends and family, and your next weekend off, try it. You WILL learn ALOT.

I had one of the tactical tailor 3 day assault packs and the 3 day plus pack. Although they are well designed and nearly bombproof the lack of a frame is a serious downfall. In addition to that, the back panel does not have a frame sheet either, so should you overload the pack the vast majority of the time you will have some piece of stowed gear exerting extra pressure on your back. It makes for an uncomfortable pack.

2847 ci would be a minimum size for me.  i'd rather bump it up and have room if needed.

Thanks for all of the replies.

What I am looking at is not really a Bug Out Bag, but a comprehensive Get Home Bag, from a location of 60 miles.

Just what I need to get myself from work to home. If I had to walk, this would take at least 4 days I think at 15 miles per day, but maybe it could take less time.

This could require me to go from forests with water to fairly open areas where water is much less scarce.

Most of the gear I am considering would be ultra-light given the distance that would have to be traveled.

This will be my sole pack.

If I had to, the pack might (and I stress might) be used to help me get from my home to my uncle who lives approximately 64 miles away.

I am seriously leaning towards the Malice pack with a few modifications I think.

The 3 Day enhanced  pack may be just a bit too small.

The lack of a frame is a big problem in my book. That puts all the weight on your shoulders and it will quickly make you so sore you will ditch things. The straps just don't transfer weight to your hips. If you have the pack you should load it up and try a 2 day walk to test. Might save you a lot of trouble when you really don't need the extra problems. WJ

Kifaru ZXR? Good pack for weeklong 3 season use. @500. 5200ci, and compress well.

I know it's a shitty answer, but it all depends on how much crap you think you're going to be carrying....

A lot of people either can or think they can hump a 75lb ruck all over hell and back.  If that's you it's not nearly enough.  Others (like me) look at a 35lb bag and start looking for crap to ditch.  In that case, that size might do you well.  I have a 4400 in^3 pack that's luxurious for 3-5 days.  I could do 3 days with 2847 in^3 and make many miles per day in the process.

Also, are you preparing for a million armed Chinese, a horde of zombies, little space friends or bigfoot?  Small scale natural disaster?  Getting broke down on the way home from work?  3 days?  Indefinitely? The mission determines the gear.

This thread address your questions about the TT packs with LOTS O Pics

then that's wayyyyy too small.

Always goes larger than you think you will need, you don't have to use the extra space if you don't want to.

As a sole pack, i'd say look for something atleast in the 4-5k range.

You also never know what items you will come across on your journey that you may want to pack and bring with you

Actually that's the right answer.  Don't look for the size of the pack until you weigh everything you "think" you'll need.  Anything over 35 pounds needs a frame; I don't care how good the pack is sewn together or what cool features or how many pockets.  Many of the high-capacity packs without frames are accidents waiting to happen...unless you're just packing a King-sized comforter and pillow.

1 - Determine what you plan to pack.
2 - Weigh it...if it's over 35 pounds; look for a pack with a frame.
3 - Put all the stuff you're planning to pack in a squared tub to measure the estimated capacity and then start looking for a pack that meets those requirements.

Outside of actual pack construction, the frame/suspension is the most important part of the pack.  

Edited to add that my intent isn't to bash the 3-day assualt packs.  Many of the frameless 3-day packs are great for get-home bags, it's just that most people max out the weight in them...and if you're carrying it more than a mile or two, you'll be miserable which takes your focus off your situation and surroundings.

ROCK6

Not to completely derail your topic, but have you considered having abike availible for such a trek?

Yes, lightweight. Good

That being said, I have a 4300 cu in pack I use all year round ('cept when its real hot out then i bust out the cheapie 2200) Like most packs it will EXPAND to that volume...I have never had to fully expend it; most of my gear is considered ultralight, but not all.

If you pack properly and stick w/ good gear a good 4000 cu in pack will be more than sufficient.  The type of terrain that you plan on covering 60 miles in and the weight on your shoulders are the biggest variables. Only you can decide that after doing some hiking.


FWIW, I can do 10 miles on hilly western pa trails in less than a few hours w/ just a few bottles of water on me. I strap 30+ lbs on my back and it's closer to a 5 or 6 hour trip over the same terrain


YMMV




Speed


ETA: I of course agree wholeheartedly w/ the recommendations on a frame style pack, however If it's something you plan on using now and again, do yourself a favor and go to a store like REI or EMS and get fitted for a pack w/ weight in it.

Personally i don't care for the uber-tactical packs, but that's because I have no real need for that. I'm all about that "blending in" type thing ;) If I'm walking around on foot I'm obviously not defending some property or anything; Id much rather just scoot on through :)

Basic rule in backpacking is to carry only 1/4 of your weight.  The bigger the bag, the more tempting it is to fill it.  Remember, your rifle and ammunition isn't going to count in the weight of the bag.

Remember. Just because you have the space does ot mean you need to fill it. The problem with bigger packs is that most people have the tendancy to fill it to the top. Even if they don't need all of the stuff inside.

This I did not know.

Good rule of thumb though, and it certainly changes my entire approach.

this and what speed said.

use it to know it!



and anything over 30 lbs needs a frame,sorry rock, just my 2 cents on that since everything froma  TT to BHI has sucked once it got near 30 for me.



get yer torso sized and good framed pack is the way to go for a BOB any one saying they hump a 3 day pack with 40 lbs of  crap  for miles either  likes pain or is FOS or doesnt go far!

Ok my $0.02 on this first off I'm not sure if this is a get home bag or a bug out bag? Both a GHB and a BOB are different and I think can not be one in the same. Why? A GHB should be a pack that can carry items you will need for 3-days food, water, clothing, security. Now me and my GHB I leave in my truck its not big does not draw attention to me looks like a everyday book bag if I had to walk home with this pack on people would not look twice at me with it on. Now with a BOB the same can be said you don't want attention right so don't buy some military looking pack. Why? I was over in Iraq for 21 months and the first thing that came to my eye was anything military cause it just stands out!! Now saying that I'm not saying buy some bright pack! Get something that the everyday person would use Cabela's they have a few nice hiking packs that don't look military but look like the average Joe would have.  

Truth be told if you need the whole military chest vest, pack and all that crap then you have to much shit and you will not get to far without someone taking a look and saying "What is G.I Joe think he is doing?" You will draw a lot of unwanted attention to yourself! I tried to walk from my home in Southern IL to a town 10 miles away with an Alice pack on before I got 4 miles I had the cops on my ass taking me in and asking me questions and searching my stuff. When I asked why they said cause you looked like you where military up to no good. I was dressed in blue jean shorts and a white shirt with tennis shoes. Yes I have a shaved head and I'm in pretty good shape but it was the ALICE pack that drew the attention!! Looked military!

Thats my $0.02 in this for now.

Interesting opinion. I had not really considered the issue of being hauled in by the police. Not at all to tell you the truth...

Where are you ? Norther region? southern? Mountains,,desert?How tall or short are you?
Need snow shoes,skis? I live in an area that has avalanches, road closures, mud slides, rock slides.
stuff happens
You may not want to spend alot on a pack you may not use.
If your going to backpack then you will want a good fitting pack.
If you want to go fast GoLite,for the racer in you.
If you need a pack just to keep in the truck,,get a ALICE mountain ruck add an Alipad.
If you want to spend the money look at the other best know pack maker  Dana Gleason aka Mystery Ranch
http://www.mysteryranch.com/
Between Dana and Patrick Smith ,former  owner of Mtn Smith and current owner of Kifaru.
You'll have over 80yrs of pack making.

Something you might investigate...

Mystery Ranch NICE frame:
http://www.mysteryranch.com/packs/54/nice-frame.html

HSGI TRASH bag:
http://www.hsgi.us/proddetail.asp?prod=HSG%2FTRASHBAG&cat=20

A thread on Armory/Tactical Gear about the TRASH bag:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=10&t=285821

I forgot about the "Trashbag",,but I always mention the Alipad.   It's the one single best upgrade to the ALICE frame to do.

If you want the NICE frame from Mystery Ranch get it this way.

http://www.mysteryranch.com/packs/85/cbmr-manticore.html

or

http://www.mysteryranch.com/packs/98/cbmr-cerberus.html

Your profile says you live in TX, not the occupied territory of IL. But your story reminds me of the first Rambo movie. That said I am glad the cops have enough respect for you to violate your rights.

Anyway I like camelbaks for GHBs and BOBs. My BOB is a Motherload and my GHB is a MULE with a few pouches attached.