Posted: 10/29/2007 8:57:04 AM EDT
| Is it me or the G17. I keep shooting a little low and to the left. I've tried adjusting my grip and stance, but I'm still off the mark. However, I can adjust my sight picture and aim up and to the right and hit dead center everytime. I manually checked my sights and they seem centered and straight. I think its me. What can I do to straighten this out? |
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Then your sights are off. You need to adjust the rear sight to the right. You will need a punch and a hammer. The Glock sight tool works great but you don't need it. My issued Glock 22 shoots to the left and I had to adjust the sights to the right to compensate. The only way to raise your impacts is to change out your front sight with a shorter one. Can you post a pic of your target? |
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I'm willing to bet I'm to blame. However, would it still be shooter error if I can rapid fire with the adjusted sight picture and hit what I'm aiming at? I just want to clear this up before my CCW class on Saturday. Don't want to have every shot clustered around the target's right kidney. |
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Have someone that you know is a good shot shoot your pistol. They should be able to get hits with your gun at POA or there is something wrong with your gun. Honestly, 99% of the time it's the shooter. I shoot students' guns all the time when they are having trouble making hits and it isn't the pistol. On common clue on students' gun with adjustable sights is I'll shoot it and it will hit high and right. This is because that's where the sights have been adjusted to compensate for trigger control problems. |
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DerMann, If a shooter is aiming center mass and hitting low left then aims at the right shoulder of the target and hits center mass, he is jerking the trigger. It doesn't matter if he uses Kentucky Windage to hit the target, he is still misapplying the fundamentals. One of the best methods to cure this is dry firing. Unload the weapon and place the ammunition in another room. Then check the weapon again, visually and physically, to insure it is unloaded. That's right. Stick your finger into the chamber and magazine well. Use an exterior wall that will stop a round if accidentally introduced into the chamber. A light color wall works best. Focus on the front sight continually then slowly and smoothly squeeze the trigger. Use the pad of your trigger finger or the first joint. Attempt to keep the sights from moving while you're doing this. If the sights start to move, release the trigger and try again. After the weapon has fired (firing pin been released by the sear; you'll hear a click) move the slide to the rear, just enough to re-cock the weapon, while holding the trigger to back. Then release the trigger until you hear and feel a click. This is called trigger reset. Then repeat. Do this for approximately 15 mins each day until you take your class. Afterward two to three times a week is sufficient. This is the same thing I do in the classroom with the officers in my department transitioning to the Glock 23. If you have anymore questions feel free to contact me. Marty |
| Hi I'm in the military and we qualify with lots of guns, but the one that always gets me is the M4 carbine. when we sight in it's in the prone supported and I'm dead center with my target, but once we are ready to qualify its kneeling unsupported and over baracade and prone unsupported. On all three qualifing spots I always get my front sight going in a figure eight. They say to ignore it but I try and I always come up short. What can I do to fixs this problem? |
The figure 8 pattern is normal especially in the standing. You really can't stop it but you can take advantage of it. Place the center of the 8 on the center of the target and use interrupted trigger control to squeeze the trigger just as the 8 pattern crosses the center of the target. Learn to use your natural point of aim and you'll increase your accuracy. |
| Natural point of aim is important and you should place the center of the 8 in the center of the target, but I don’t recommend or teach interrupted trigger control. It can create problems with the shooter. Like timing the shot or jerking. Try pulling back slightly in to your shoulder with your firing hand, relax your non-firing hand so that you don’t steer the front sight to the black/center this should minimize the movement. Then apply good trigger control. Hope this helps. |
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I think it is you, it sounds like a classic flinch. A flinch is hard to detect. Here is a way to diagnose it, WITH A GOOD FRIEND YOU TRUST A LOT! Have him load mags for you, and hand you a loaded gun and let you fire, say five round mags. Don't watch him load. When you get comfortable shooting rounds, he will hand you an empty gun without telling you. Watch the results when you pull the trigger on the empty gun! The best way to correct a flinch is lots of dry fire, and steady trigger pulls. For dry firing, concentrate on pulling the trigger without the sights moving at all. |