Posted: 7/17/2012 6:40:39 AM EDT
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Anyone every do this?
My local club is having a event and would like to try. if so what are some things that are needed and ammo counts? Thank you for your time. |
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A highpower match is not a high round count event, it's all about disciplined fire for accuracy. You can take all day with a big crowd to shoot 50 rounds. (Or you could be done in 2-3 hours with a small crowd on a relay or two) It all depends on the scheduled program; only way to know is to read the program and or call the number and ask what's needed.
A lot of vintage matches (garand matches plus any other period service rifle) are 40-50 round 100 or 200 yard affairs. Could be a straight up 20 round off hand match but in my experience will have 10 sighters, the prone slow for 10, prone rapid for 10 sitting rapid for 10, offhand for 10. A full 200, 300, 600 yard match would have offhand, sitting, rapid, and 600 prone. Number of shots could vary. Honestly haven't shot full course in a long long time to give the whole run down. Most local matches are modified events. My own club is shooting a non CMP/non NRA approved short course. it's just a club league thing. Too many older guys who don't want to lay down. 
Anyways, try to get the program and bring double the ammo.  I've seen small events get done early and ask if there are enough guys to shoot another practice match.
Read the stickies in the arfcom training- Service rifle/Highpower/DCM/CMP section. -besides your rifle, ammo, sling, bring a sweatshirt (assuming you don't have a shooting coat), a mat can be an old piece of carpet or blanket, spotting scope if you have one or borrow one (the highpower specific shooting stands are way better for the function), lots of water, and a lunch if not available on the program. -you'll need at least 2 magazines for the rapid event, or clips/stripper as appropriate for the rifle. eye protection and ear protection too. -if you'r not up on the program just say so and the guys will help you and are usually outstanding to coach or loan mats and scopes. ETA- do you know how to use a rifle sling as a shooting aid? I'm talking the M1 canvass/nylon slings with the J hook for the butt loop and the adjustable dog keeper for the front end. Or the use of a leather M1905 sling. The canvass one is the easiest to learn fast and is the easiest and fastest to adjust on the line. leather ones are slow. |
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CMP would not have a little club's course of fire as it's pretty open to design other than for regional and state matches. A match could be a 200 yard off hand match only or a 600 yard prone match. Those are rarer but some clubs do them. Most will do some combination along the lines of the full course match but for whatever shorter range the club can accomodate. (normally 100 or 200 yard short courses)
Look for a point of contact on the website. Call or email the POC or the club president for the info. The club president may not run the shoot and would likely put you in contact with the highpower director chairperson at your club. Basically the guy that runs the shoot there. I fricken hate when shoots don't post the course of fire. 5 minutes of typing would save a lot of folks wondering. My own club went to have a fundraiser shoot last month and the fliers posted were late, not informative to the point of not even saying it was a highpower type shoot, and lacked a POC, number of rounds required, etc. Needless to say 3 people showed up and 2 of them prepared for a run and gun shoot not a highpower match. Total botched effort on my club's behalf as the info was sorely lacking. We're not a serious highpower club either but I keep pushing in that direction (unsuccessfully), basically we're a bunch of old dudes shooting old nearly forgotten surplus rifles grabbed out of the closet and that's the way most of the guys want to keep it there. Can't even get guys to follow one set of rules but then again, there's no money awarded in our league. |
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CMP would not have a little club's course of fire as it's pretty open to design other than for regional and state matches. A match could be a 200 yard off hand match only or a 600 yard prone match. Those are rarer but some clubs do them. Most will do some combination along the lines of the full course match but for whatever shorter range the club can accomodate. (normally 100 or 200 yard short courses) Look for a point of contact on the website. Call or email the POC or the club president for the info. The club president may not run the shoot and would likely put you in contact with the highpower director chairperson at your club. Basically the guy that runs the shoot there. I fricken hate when shoots don't post the course of fire. 5 minutes of typing would save a lot of folks wondering. My own club went to have a fundraiser shoot last month and the fliers posted were late, not informative to the point of not even saying it was a highpower type shoot, and lacked a POC, number of rounds required, etc. Needless to say 3 people showed up and 2 of them prepared for a run and gun shoot not a highpower match. Total botched effort on my club's behalf as the info was sorely lacking. We're not a serious highpower club either but I keep pushing in that direction (unsuccessfully), basically we're a bunch of old dudes shooting old nearly forgotten surplus rifles grabbed out of the closet and that's the way most of the guys want to keep it there. Can't even get guys to follow one set of rules but then again, there's no money awarded in our league. Thanks, I feel the same way. I will call them and find out the the deal is. I was hoping that people on here have done them and could give me some insite, but without knowing what they are doing it's a little hard. |
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I would hazard a GUESS that you'll get a basic shoot for 200 yards seeing as you have 200.
10 rounds of sighters 10 prone slow 10 rapid prone with a mag change, (you may or may not start from standing and have to go to prone, and you may or may not start with a loaded rifle) used to be you always started standing with a loaded rifle, went to prone, adjusted your natural point of aim, fired 2 (or 5 in a bolt action) reload, fire 8 (or 5 in a bolt). They've been playing with it for safety/accidental discharges (and if you listen to scuttlebutt, to accomadate a world renowned shooter with a medical issue). 10 sitting rapid 10 slow offhand. slow fire is generally 10 minutes for 10 rounds. rapids is variable depending on where they are having you load the rifle for the first time. Around a minute of postition taking and shooting time IIRC, i've seen more time added for the load and I've also seen the clock not start until the first round is fired by the first shooter. if you're not used to using a sling go to the link I posted in the Training - Highpower forum, there's a link to Ray Brandes site (Ray Vin) where he goes over the canvass M1 sling's usage. Basically you make a loop out of the buckle end for your bicep and adjust the strap length from the forend to your bicep with the other adjustment buckle. used for prone and sitting (and kneeling if allowed). Offhand the sling is not used to support the rilfle and must be a on the rifle, generally a loosened parade sling. In the Marines IIRC we were allowed to remove the sling for offhand altogher but hat would not be ok for NRA or CMP. |
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another source for tips on highpower shooting. I believe you have to sign up for the site to see links.
http://www.usrifleteams.com/forums/index.php?& It's free. I was looking for a tutorial on building solid positions for you. -how to build a good sling supported prone position -how to build a good sling supported sitting position -techniques for a more stable off hand position I didn't see one there. topics that you'll want to understand; -natural point of aim (getting the rifle to point at the target naturally with your muscles in a more neutral position)(avoids inconsistent "muscling" of the rifle and fatigue) - propper sight picture and a consistent sight picture. it's all on the web somewhere. i recommend some google searching and dry fire practice in those positions at home with an empty rifle before the shoot. An hour or two with a Marine with a decent memory could get you 75-95% there for highpower as the Marines have been basically shooting highpower for quals for a 100 years or more. Getting your positions down and increasing your comfort in them is HUGE! Dryfire practice is also huge. |