Posted: 6/22/2008 6:19:07 PM EDT
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With ammo prices going up steadily it would be nice to save some money by purchasing a .22 conversion kit for my Glock, since shooting less isn't really an option. Does anyone have an opinion on training with a conversion kit instead of the normal rounds for your gun? Is it as good, better or worse and is it recommended by any professional trainers? Thanks for the info and opinions. |
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I have the Advantage Arms LE conversion for a 17. I added Heine sights to it. It is a great training aid. It can be a little tight in some holsters. I have to loosen the tension screw on my Blade Techs just a bit. My only gripe is the company is in California so they can only make 10 round mags. |
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I have 2 advantage arms uppers. 1 for the 19/23 and the other for 17/22 Glocks. Bought the first one after Trainer from TDSA told me that's what he was using for some of his practice. Makes a huge difference. I've loaned the uppers to a couple of my buddies who had been struggling to qualify for duty. After use, no prob. The other posters pointed out the holster, mag and sight issues. Even locks open on last shot, unlike other trainers. IMHO its the best .22 conversion for the Glock. |
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When I was doing research before buying mine I asked several trainers I work with from various companies. Opinions varied. Some felt that the .22 was not the same recoil as your carry round so you do not get the benefit of training recoil control etc and they were steadfast about the fact you should "Train with what you carry". Most of those guys reloaded their own ammo and/or had government or department access to as much ammo as they could shoot. One told me you could accomplish the same results with airsoft set up in your basement. On the flip side others liked the conversions because of the varied skills sets you can still train with the exception of recoil control/management. Fundamental marksmanship, combative marksmanship, single hand shooting, bilateral shooting, reloads etc.. And, you are still shooting something. We use a lot of steel now so the .22 does just fine to give us the audible feedback we want at a fraction of the cost. I think it depends heavily on HOW MUCH you shoot/train or how much you want to shoot/train. I have an Advantage Arms kit for my glocks and a ciener kit for my AR. What I do is run the training sessions with the conversions for 500-1000 rounds and then we finish the session with 100 rounds of our carry ammo. This way we get a little bit of both worlds. |
Advantage Arms, I've had mine for two years and maybe there's 1 FTE per 500 rounds. I generally use Federal bulk pack, but with the right ammo, the kit can be accurate. In the beginning when I was testing different ammo, I found with my kit, copper washed bullet are a must. My barrel had some serious leading problems with lead bullets YMMV. |