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9/15/2013 5:49:42 PM EDT
So next week is probably going to be the last match of the season for me, and Im wondering how I can practice through the winter. I am contemplating getting one of the used Daisy 853's and practicing indoors on reduced targets. Anybody else do this, or have any other recommendations?
9/15/2013 6:32:26 PM EDT
[#1]
I bought a Top Gun Trainer
I am happy with it so far
9/15/2013 9:07:36 PM EDT
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I have a CLE .22 upper that I practice with during the season and after. The downside is the initial expense, but I do use it a lot.
9/15/2013 10:09:07 PM EDT
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Yes on the air guns, and also the dedicated rimfire rig.

Nothing wrong with dry fire drills and holding drills either.
9/16/2013 3:20:11 AM EDT
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A dedicated .22 upper or NMAR upper is out of the question right now. What are some holding or dry fire drills?
9/16/2013 6:37:36 AM EDT
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I like this one: Place a 1" black paster on an index card and hang it at eye level 15.5 yards away. Gear up and dry fire at the paster, making sure to follow through and hold on the dot after the hammer falls. It really helps with calling your shots.
9/16/2013 9:10:41 PM EDT
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There are some based on just breaking shots and calling them, and there are others where you build up time holding.

Variations are based on adding electronic autocollimators with tracking software that show your score and track the hold position with statistics on your performance. These tools are very common in ISU and 3P training.

Some of those airgun and 3P training books are very good sources for exercises and holding drills that apply directly to any offhand shooting. The books tend to be a little pricey, but I found them to be excellent.

Jim Owens also sells some training materials as does Glen Zediker. The books by Tubb are good too.

Let me see if I can find links to the books.

http://www.amazon.com/Air-Rifle-Shooting-Heinz-Reinkemeier/dp/3980974634

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/621010/ways-of-the-rifle-book-by-gaby-buhlmann-heinz-reinkemeier-and-mark-eckhardt

http://www.zediker.com/books/rifleshooter/rifleshootermain.html

http://www.zediker.com/books/highpowerrifle/hprmain.html

http://www.amazon.com/Competitive-Shooting-Techniques-Training-Running/dp/0935998535

The last one was a translation from Russian that I bought when the NRA sold it many years ago. Now only available on the used market as far as I know. It had much in terms of drills and exercises.

9/17/2013 1:37:28 PM EDT
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I see that you are in Ohio. I run a "winter league" near Toledo that shoots from September until April.

We had 49 shooters at our match on Sunday!  We have 14 reduced course matches left. We shoot at 100 and 200 yards, alternating between 2 local clubs.

Some great competition with high masters, distinguished shooters, President's hundred shooters mixed in with juniors and beginners.

PM me if interested.
9/19/2013 4:14:25 PM EDT
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I see that you are in Ohio. I run a "winter league" near Toledo that shoots from September until April.

We had 49 shooters at our match on Sunday!  We have 14 reduced course matches left. We shoot at 100 and 200 yards, alternating between 2 local clubs.

Some great competition with high masters, distinguished shooters, President's hundred shooters mixed in with juniors and beginners.

PM me if interested.
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Tag for follow-up.
12/16/2013 5:30:17 PM EDT
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I bought a cheap Ruger pellet rifle ($100) and removed the scope. I fire five shot groups at a target paster (3/4" black dot) on white paper at 10m. I built a pellet trap that is head high. A 1/4" steel plate at a 45 degree angle sends the pellets into sand directly below it. I fire 20 careful shots concentrating on natural point of aim, sight picture, trigger and follow-thru in that order. Even though the rifle is far from match grade, it will put all five in the paster if I do my part. On the few calm sunny days we get in Michigan in winter, I go out and shoot my service rifle on my 100 yard range. I try to shoot the pellet rifle weekdays and my AR when I can.
12/16/2013 9:14:05 PM EDT
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There are some based on just breaking shots and calling them, and there are others where you build up time holding.

Variations are based on adding electronic autocollimators with tracking software that show your score and track the hold position with statistics on your performance. These tools are very common in ISU and 3P training.

Some of those airgun and 3P training books are very good sources for exercises and holding drills that apply directly to any offhand shooting. The books tend to be a little pricey, but I found them to be excellent.

Jim Owens also sells some training materials as does Glen Zediker. The books by Tubb are good too.

Let me see if I can find links to the books.

http://www.amazon.com/Air-Rifle-Shooting-Heinz-Reinkemeier/dp/3980974634

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/621010/ways-of-the-rifle-book-by-gaby-buhlmann-heinz-reinkemeier-and-mark-eckhardt

http://www.zediker.com/books/rifleshooter/rifleshootermain.html

http://www.zediker.com/books/highpowerrifle/hprmain.html

http://www.amazon.com/Competitive-Shooting-Techniques-Training-Running/dp/0935998535

The last one was a translation from Russian that I bought when the NRA sold it many years ago. Now only available on the used market as far as I know. It had much in terms of drills and exercises.

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Wow, I don't recall what I paid for that Russian book, but it wasn't expensive when it came out. Now look at it...

Those are all really great books that discuss drills and exercises very well.

Nothing wrong with the airgun idea. The dry fire or electronic assisted dry fire drills work well too. No doubt the electronic trainers help your offhand scores.

Airgunning needs to come with a warning. It gets addictive and can lead to more toys.

Merry Christmas
12/18/2013 3:33:33 PM EDT
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I know the NMAR upper is pricey, but it really is sweet.  I've been using the snot out of mine.  There's 6 - 8" of snow on the ground and its freezing out, but I can head downstairs and get good solid offhand practice every night if I want to.

Only downside is that I'm gonna get used to shooting in my pajamas and crocs...  

Seriously though, save your pennies and get the NMAR upper, you won't regret it.  Just don't be a dumbass like me and do this...

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1569105_So_I_managed_to_shoot_a_hole_in_my_air_rifle_trap__minor_wreckage_involved_.html

Matt
1/23/2014 7:53:48 PM EDT
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I always used to practice indoors with a Feinwerkbau 300S air rifle.  I recently read that prices on them are falling, so it might be a good option.  It's a wonderful gun to shoot in and of itself, too.