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AR15.COM
2/8/2009 12:30:06 AM EDT
http://www.o2datraining.com/
2/9/2009 6:53:33 AM EDT
[#1]
Looks a little overhyped and some exaggerated claims.  

Also, any public school that will not put names and faces to instructors, causes me to be suspicious.

Reading the founder's background, he doesn't sound incompetant but doesn't have any special background that any other big name instructor doesn't have.  As a result, I fail to see why he needs to conceal his identity and his face.  

Also, seems a little pricey.

I sent off for the "free report" so I'll report back when I get it.
2/9/2009 7:22:34 AM EDT
[#2]
Here's the "free report" in PDF format.  

Free report

I just skimmed through it.  Not bad I guess but nothing that I haven't seen elsewhere before.

If you are a beginner, you might learn some stuff.  If you have some experience, probably no "secrets" there.

Tactics really aren't a big secret.  The big "secret" to why good units/people are so good at tactics is that they have knowledge and training.  They have practiced their skills until they don't even have to think to perform it.  It's automatic.  Once you get to the point that you don't have to think about it, then you are good.
2/10/2009 1:31:47 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Tactics really aren't a big secret.  The big "secret" to why good units/people are so good at tactics is that they have knowledge and training.  They have practiced their skills until they don't even have to think to perform it.  It's automatic.  Once you get to the point that you don't have to think about it, then you are good.


Amen.  A couple of years ago I was looking for some sort of shooting Holy Grail to take my skills to the next level.  I bought a couple of books written by John Shaw of Midsouth...  They were both written more than 20 years ago, and the gist of his message was "Practice a lot, and practice well."  I'm glad I read them, but I still had to make this face - .

I think Vince Lombardi was quoted as saying something like "Perfect practice makes perfect."
2/15/2009 6:24:46 PM EDT
[#4]
Attention Firearms Owners!
Want to learn how to dramatically boost your survivability and never fear anyone, or any situation, ever again?
Would You Like To Learn The Amazingly Devastating Training Secrets That Will Give You Unbelievable Confidence, Speed, and Accuracy Tapping Into More Devastating Power Than You Ever Thought Possible?

And If You’re A New Firearms Owner, Would You Like To Have The Ability, Confidence, and Safety Of A Seasoned Professional, By Exploiting A Jump Start On Those “Veteran” Gun Owners, And Showing Them Up With Your Newly Transformed Ability, Each And Every Time You Are At The Range Training With Them?


Amazingly devastating training secrets? "Show up" others with your Ninja skills?

No. credible instructors don't make claims like that.

Edit; The owner is such a high speed secret squirrel he can't reveal his last name? Fuck that. This has got to be some sort of joke.
2/16/2009 10:46:15 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Attention Firearms Owners!
Want to learn how to dramatically boost your survivability and never fear anyone, or any situation, ever again?
Would You Like To Learn The Amazingly Devastating Training Secrets That Will Give You Unbelievable Confidence, Speed, and Accuracy Tapping Into More Devastating Power Than You Ever Thought Possible?

And If You’re A New Firearms Owner, Would You Like To Have The Ability, Confidence, and Safety Of A Seasoned Professional, By Exploiting A Jump Start On Those “Veteran” Gun Owners, And Showing Them Up With Your Newly Transformed Ability, Each And Every Time You Are At The Range Training With Them?


Amazingly devastating training secrets? "Show up" others with your Ninja skills?

No. credible instructors don't make claims like that.

Edit; The owner is such a high speed secret squirrel he can't reveal his last name? Fuck that. This has got to be some sort of joke.



I've had a lot of training.  More than some and less than others. 7.5 years in LE and 13 years in the Marine Corps both active and reserve.  1 depolyment to the MIddle East (Iraq).  I don't consider myself highspeed but I do have some training.  Enough to at least understand most of his "secrets".

Reference the above in red, I've been scared before.  VERY scared.  Fear is healthy.  So to say that you'll never fear anyone or anything again, well ok.  

Maybe I'm not well enough trained to net feel fear.  Or maybe, this place is overhyped.  You decide.

I didn't read the entire "report".  I just skimmed it.  I guess I won't be reading it any more.
2/16/2009 12:48:52 PM EDT
[#6]
This is an example of why I have a great deal of concern about the future of the private sector training industry. There are so many instructors "popping up like mushrooms" who do not disclose their credentials or who have questionable backgrounds, and there is so much hyped up advertising because the market is so small, it's become a "buyer beware" situation for first time students.

Hopefully a form of "darwin-ism" will eventually ensure a "survival of the fittest" regarding schools and instructors but it doesn't help the first time student select a "good" school or instructor in the current environment.
2/16/2009 2:23:27 PM EDT
[#7]
I think he needs to discover the secrets of sighted SPELLING first.

"Remember, you read it hear first"

?????

Gringop