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Posted: 6/14/2019 6:50:40 AM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoloContendere:
I spoke to sergeant mumblename today.... y’all hang tight. I’m coming back. 
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Posted: 6/14/2019 8:25:45 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoloContendere:
I spoke to sergeant mumblename today.... y’all hang tight. I’m coming back. 
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Posted: 6/14/2019 8:53:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JPNY79]
[#3]
Thanks for all your help Nolo. Please keep handing them their asses.
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Posted: 6/14/2019 9:11:56 AM EDT
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I'm gonna call the Nassau pistol unit today and tell them I carry in their prescious county ALL the time...so how can they justify banning me from also carrying a taser when the Supreme Court said it's a constitutional right?
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NY, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2019 10:26:29 AM EDT
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I was reading through this thread from the beginning and I noticed that over two years ago I posted my belief: "...Probably and they will also make owning Tasers as difficult as getting a pistol, at least here on Long Island."
Surprise, surprise. The head of the Nassau Pistol Licensing Bureau declares that court rulings are meaningless. Just an example of why I never subjected myself to the BS needed here in Nassau County to get a PP not to mention the $200 every five years (thanks Republicans). When I eventually leave this state for a free state, the first or second thing I will do after establishing residency is walk into a gun shop and buy myself a nice pistol. Probably in 9mm. The biggest headache will be what brand and model
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Posted: 6/14/2019 11:34:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BenC:
Nolo, a serious question. Having now seen the depths of the shit show that is NY, are you shocked at this latest development? If you were to explain this case (NYs responses, the timeline, etc) to your peers in the legal community, would they believe you at first blush before looking up everything, or would they think you're blowing smoke up their ass? What can we as NY'ers do to truly explain to everyone that we're not exaggerating when talking about how badly we get screwed? |
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Posted: 6/14/2019 1:31:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoloContendere: it's not just NY. it is even in little podunk counties/munis down here. They will straight up tell me they don't care what the law is and will do what they want. So I just tell them to have fun and I'll see them later. Sometimes they need it stuck in hard & broken off! |
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Posted: 6/15/2019 6:53:52 AM EDT
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As long as these petty tyrants have no personal skin in the game and can pay out of the public coffers for their misdeeds nothing will change. Perhaps some civil rights suits under 1983 would get their attention?
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NY, USA
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Posted: 6/16/2019 3:33:05 PM EDT
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Nolo, thank you for your work and your continued efforts.
From me, it is greatly appreciated! All the best Billy |
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Posted: 6/19/2019 8:45:02 PM EDT
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Wasn't there a SCOTUS decision on a Mass. ban that would apply here?
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Posted: 6/19/2019 10:24:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emsjeep:
Wasn't there a SCOTUS decision on a Mass. ban that would apply here? |
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Posted: 6/19/2019 10:55:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bushman_269:
As long as these petty tyrants have no personal skin in the game and can pay out of the public coffers for their misdeeds nothing will change. Perhaps some civil rights suits under 1983 would get their attention? |
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Posted: 9/5/2019 9:22:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/6/2019 8:34:00 AM EDT
[#14]
So because the ruling was in the northern district of NY, does that make it not apply anywhere else in NY?
Granted SCOTUS already ruled on this, and that obviously covers Nassau fucking county.. But what do these idiots want before they abide? A ruling by the 2nd circus? Or a direct scotus challenge of their ban? |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2019 12:10:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveM4P99:
Granted SCOTUS already ruled on this, and that obviously covers Nassau fucking county.. But what do these idiots want before they abide? A ruling by the 2nd circus? Or a direct scotus challenge of their ban? As a resident of Nassau County most of my life, this is not surprising. There are times it is difficult to differentiate Nassau County from New York City in the policies and attitudes. The lieutenant promulgating this response will never face any personal repercussions for thumbing his nose at the Federal court. And even if there is a ruling against Nassau County, they will do the least amount possible to grudgingly comply (if at all). No one will personally be held responsible for ignoring the court and the county will simply keep forking over money for any settlements or fines. After all, if the court tells the citizenry it is okay to own a stun gun but the police say "we will arrest you", are you going to follow the court's ruling or listen to the police? If you have time and money to fight, you will listen to the court. But the majority of us will avoid the arrest. BTW, Nassau County still distributes mugshots. Suffolk has stopped the practice. |
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Posted: 9/7/2019 11:26:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoloContendere:
oh hi, we're back! https://www.scribd.com/document/424663077/1-Complaint-Nassau |
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Posted: 9/8/2019 8:37:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emsjeep:
Chances Nassau revokes your plaintiff's "full carry"? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emsjeep:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
oh hi, we're back! https://www.scribd.com/document/424663077/1-Complaint-Nassau |
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Posted: 9/8/2019 9:28:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: P400]
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emsjeep:
Chances Nassau revokes your plaintiff's "full carry"? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emsjeep:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
oh hi, we're back! https://www.scribd.com/document/424663077/1-Complaint-Nassau Wouldn't surprise me to see Nassau try to do it anyway, county borders be damned. I sure hope not though. |
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Posted: 9/8/2019 12:35:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDidn't that wind up costing us Nassau County residents a pile of settlement money?
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Posted: 9/8/2019 1:39:36 PM EDT
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That's quite the interesting legal opinion their counsel came up with.
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Posted: 9/8/2019 4:24:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoloContendere:
oh hi, we're back! https://www.scribd.com/document/424663077/1-Complaint-Nassau |
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Posted: 9/8/2019 4:49:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless:
That's quite the interesting legal opinion their counsel came up with. |
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Posted: 9/8/2019 10:11:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aardvark:
Didn't that wind up costing us Nassau County residents a pile of settlement money? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aardvark:
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Posted: 9/27/2019 4:14:26 PM EDT
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https://www.scribd.com/document/427755361/Memo-Issued-by-PDCN-on-9-27-19
"please disregard Lt. Timpano's email of June 12, 2019 on the subject matter" 
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Posted: 9/27/2019 4:27:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoloContendere:
https://www.scribd.com/document/427755361/Memo-Issued-by-PDCN-on-9-27-19 "please disregard Lt. Timpano's email of June 12, 2019 on the subject matter"
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Posted: 9/27/2019 4:49:42 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless:
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
https://www.scribd.com/document/427755361/Memo-Issued-by-PDCN-on-9-27-19 "please disregard Lt. Timpano's email of June 12, 2019 on the subject matter" 
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Posted: 9/27/2019 5:04:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoloContendere:
https://www.scribd.com/document/427755361/Memo-Issued-by-PDCN-on-9-27-19 "please disregard Lt. Timpano's email of June 12, 2019 on the subject matter"
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Posted: 9/27/2019 5:36:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By garr: I Love it! |
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Posted: 9/27/2019 8:57:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/28/2019 7:24:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoloContendere:
https://www.scribd.com/document/427755361/Memo-Issued-by-PDCN-on-9-27-19 "please disregard Lt. Timpano's email of June 12, 2019 on the subject matter" Priceless, but I still think Nassau will jam you up because they still do not recognize the court ruling as valid. They are simply not going to enforce PL 265.1 for possession. See how long that lasts. Especially if there is a change in administration. |
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Posted: 9/28/2019 11:34:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aardvark:
Is that their way of saying "nothing to see here, move along"? Priceless, but I still think Nassau will jam you up because they still do not recognize the court ruling as valid. They are simply not going to enforce PL 265.1 for possession. See how long that lasts. Especially if there is a change in administration. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aardvark:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
https://www.scribd.com/document/427755361/Memo-Issued-by-PDCN-on-9-27-19 "please disregard Lt. Timpano's email of June 12, 2019 on the subject matter" Priceless, but I still think Nassau will jam you up because they still do not recognize the court ruling as valid. They are simply not going to enforce PL 265.1 for possession. See how long that lasts. Especially if there is a change in administration. |
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Posted: 9/28/2019 4:17:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoloContendere: I have something for that hopefully to be filed today 
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Posted: 9/28/2019 6:02:14 PM EDT
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Since they are thumping nose at the judge and his rule..
Push for jail time .. judge since the poo poo is ignoring your rule.. seems to be the same as not answering a question on the stand and remand them to fed pen until you agree to comply |
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Posted: 10/1/2019 12:12:16 AM EDT
[#34]
So when do the zappers hit the shelves?
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Posted: 10/1/2019 9:21:00 PM EDT
[#35]
They should be there now?
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Posted: 10/18/2019 11:14:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoloContendere:
They should be there now? |
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Posted: 10/18/2019 3:40:22 PM EDT
[#37]
Great news.
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Posted: 10/24/2019 9:30:46 PM EDT
[#38]
So NY state is actually still fighting whether stun guns are legal in the state courts..... so strange. a federal court strikes the statute, yet NY still decides to prosecute people based on the struck statute. it is the weirdest thing. but, guess that means we get to come back to visit!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 10/24/2019 9:34:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Aimless]
[#39]
Is the state doing something or are county prosecutors just ignoring your win? Are they even doing it in northern district? I thought NYSP said they were dropping it?
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Posted: 10/24/2019 9:36:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sherm8404: FWIW a friend just had a TASER Pulse delivered to his house. He spoke at length to the company prior to his order. They've shipped a ton of them to NY. No threats from the AG or FUAC so far. |
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Posted: 10/24/2019 9:47:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NoloContendere]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless:
Is the state doing something or are county prosecutors just ignoring your win? Are they even doing it in northern district? I thought NYSP said they were dropping it?  Apparently there is a string of cases that state that federal court decisions are only persuasive and even though it struck a statute as violating the constitution, oh well. crazy town.
ETA appears to be only county/city so far... I have more work to do! |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 1:32:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoloContendere:
People v Johnson. Wouldn't dismiss case against person with stun gun because avitabile isn't binding on state courts. Apparently there is a string of cases that state that federal court decisions are only persuasive and even though it struck a statute as violating the constitution, oh well. crazy town.
ETA appears to be only county/city so far... I have more work to do! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Is the state doing something or are county prosecutors just ignoring your win? Are they even doing it in northern district? I thought NYSP said they were dropping it? Apparently there is a string of cases that state that federal court decisions are only persuasive and even though it struck a statute as violating the constitution, oh well. crazy town.
ETA appears to be only county/city so far... I have more work to do! |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 2:20:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BushBoar:
Where is this happening? |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 3:16:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Aimless]
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Was this in Oneida City Court brought by the Madison county DA? Huh
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Posted: 10/25/2019 4:11:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoloContendere:
So NY state is actually still fighting whether stun guns are legal in the state courts..... so strange. a federal court strikes the statute, yet NY still decides to prosecute people based on the struck statute. it is the weirdest thing. but, guess that means we get to come back to visit!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 10/27/2019 5:06:42 PM EDT
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I wonder if this one of nolon's cases..
https://www.ammoland.com/2016/03/supreme-court-confirms-second-amendment-applies-bearable-arms-common-use/?fbclid=IwAR36Yj-Ay028KBOInosNPy_rC1DjefwxhfO4b4ZTP9mfJvWBkZ5uV-iGmtU#axzz62wjcakii |
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Posted: 10/27/2019 7:10:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cviss:
I wonder if this one of nolon's cases.. https://www.ammoland.com/2016/03/supreme-court-confirms-second-amendment-applies-bearable-arms-common-use/?fbclid=IwAR36Yj-Ay028KBOInosNPy_rC1DjefwxhfO4b4ZTP9mfJvWBkZ5uV-iGmtU#axzz62wjcakii |
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Posted: 10/27/2019 8:16:38 PM EDT
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too bad it wasn't but.. good you are..
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Posted: 10/28/2019 7:54:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cviss:
I wonder if this one of nolon's cases.. https://www.ammoland.com/2016/03/supreme-court-confirms-second-amendment-applies-bearable-arms-common-use/?fbclid=IwAR36Yj-Ay028KBOInosNPy_rC1DjefwxhfO4b4ZTP9mfJvWBkZ5uV-iGmtU#axzz62wjcakii |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 8:13:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Abom:
I’m so confused. If SCOTUS in 2016 said 2A covers “all bearable arms” and doesnt mention levels of scrutiny, or exceptions (eg those with FH and PG) then how is it that the plethora of laws like UNSAFE aren’t challenged and struck down based on this alone? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Abom:
Originally Posted By cviss:
I wonder if this one of nolon's cases.. https://www.ammoland.com/2016/03/supreme-court-confirms-second-amendment-applies-bearable-arms-common-use/?fbclid=IwAR36Yj-Ay028KBOInosNPy_rC1DjefwxhfO4b4ZTP9mfJvWBkZ5uV-iGmtU#axzz62wjcakii First get a unanimous win against stun gun bans...then inch your way to real weapons using it as precedence. It's a slow and painful process. |
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