[ARCHIVED THREAD] - SAFE Compliant Lower (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/3/2014 1:36:30 PM EDT
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Quoted: http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r796/highspeedforlife/20140303_173005_zpsbef193cd.jpg Here is the beginning of my SAFE compliant build. Yeah, yeah, yeah I get it FUAC we will not comply Molon Labia. I have a PSA upper on the way that will have a thread protector permanently attached, 16" CAR length gas system (my first direct impingement AR :(..... )....I intend on beginning pursuit of my Juris Doctor in the next year so an arrest on a violation is not an option. It will have a Midwest Industries 12" FF rail and Magpul MBUIS for now. Upper and parts have been ordered, will update with completed pictures and Range Report. |
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http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r796/highspeedforlife/20140303_173005_zpsbef193cd.jpg Here is the beginning of my SAFE compliant build. Yeah, yeah, yeah I get it FUAC we will not comply Molon Labia. I have a PSA upper on the way that will have a thread protector permanently attached, 16" CAR length gas system (my first direct impingement AR :(..... )....I intend on beginning pursuit of my Juris Doctor in the next year so an arrest on a violation is not an option. It will have a Midwest Industries 12" FF rail and Magpul MBUIS for now. Upper and parts have been ordered, will update with completed pictures and Range Report. Waiting on Aimless and BushBoar to sue you. |
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http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r796/highspeedforlife/20140303_173005_zpsbef193cd.jpg Here is the beginning of my SAFE compliant build. Yeah, yeah, yeah I get it FUAC we will not comply Molon Labia. I have a PSA upper on the way that will have a thread protector permanently attached, 16" CAR length gas system (my first direct impingement AR :(..... )....I intend on beginning pursuit of my Juris Doctor in the next year so an arrest on a violation is not an option. It will have a Midwest Industries 12" FF rail and Magpul MBUIS for now. Upper and parts have been ordered, will update with completed pictures and Range Report. So how does that thing feel in the hand? I just feel like that spur has no control. Prolly not a bad bench gun. |
| With just the lower it is hard to tell. I am going to get some grip tape tonight and cover it - I found a modified hand grip that doesn't suck. As far as who says it is not a pistol grip, where have you seen a pistol with a grip you can only get a finger on. Plus the law says ...that protudes conspicuously. |
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http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r796/highspeedforlife/20140303_173005_zpsbef193cd.jpg Here is the beginning of my SAFE compliant build. Yeah, yeah, yeah I get it FUAC we will not comply Molon Labia. I have a PSA upper on the way that will have a thread protector permanently attached, 16" CAR length gas system (my first direct impingement AR :(..... )....I intend on beginning pursuit of my Juris Doctor in the next year so an arrest on a violation is not an option. It will have a Midwest Industries 12" FF rail and Magpul MBUIS for now. Upper and parts have been ordered, will update with completed pictures and Range Report. Freedom comes with risks and casualties. Clearly freedom and firearms aren't for you. |
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this thread is full of misdirection. I think the real build has a collapsible stock, short, threaded bbl, shoulder thing that goes up, bayonet lug, grenade launcher, claymore mine and swiss army knife deployment attachment. Shit, he's gotta have something to use with his wheelbarrow full of Beta mags.
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I am still in the fight gentlemen. Who has the biggest BFL anyone has ever spotted? I am going to make damn sure we get the correct people in office to make New Amsterdam happen. Repeal isn't enough anymore - we need these cidiots and bleding heart hippie liberals to leave us alone.
But what good am I if Bubba decides he wants to be big spoon because I decided to have a flash hider? |
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I am still in the fight gentlemen. Who has the biggest BFL anyone has ever spotted? I am going to make damn sure we get the correct people in office to make New Amsterdam happen. Repeal isn't enough anymore - we need these cidiots and bleding heart hippie liberals to leave us alone. But what good am I if Bubba decides he wants to be big spoon because I decided to have a flash hider? Look at the bright side, you wouldn't have to be the one paying for your education
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Wow, that's real nifty. Until the fuckers in Albany decide they are next going to ban ALL Semi-autoloading rifles that accept detachable magazines.
Waste of time and money. I'm still perfectly happy with my guns and 30 round mags just the way they were before Jan 2013. True freedom is not giving a fuck anymore. |
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Wow, that's real nifty. Until the fuckers in Albany decide they are next going to ban ALL Semi-autoloading rifles that accept detachable magazines. Waste of time and money. I'm still perfectly happy with my guns and 30 round mags just the way they were before Jan 2013. True freedom is not giving a fuck anymore. All I have to do is change the grip and it is a normal AR build. |
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All I have to do is change the grip and it is a normal AR build. Quoted:
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Wow, that's real nifty. Until the fuckers in Albany decide they are next going to ban ALL Semi-autoloading rifles that accept detachable magazines. Waste of time and money. I'm still perfectly happy with my guns and 30 round mags just the way they were before Jan 2013. True freedom is not giving a fuck anymore. All I have to do is change the grip and it is a normal AR build. As I said: You are playing their game and they will just change the rules... again. Then what? Will you pull the gas tube and make it a single shot? The sooner you say "FUCK YOU!" the better. I should have done it years ago instead of trying to stay legal with expensive ban compliant uppers and pre ban magazines. |
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Not bad looking at all but whos to say thats NOT a pistol grip? Actually judge Scratchy ruled that. If you read his ruling concerning FH vs MB he said that whatever the manufacturer called it is what it is. So if the mfg says it's not a PG, then it's not. Besides the fact that a pistol grip one can grip in the hand...judge Scratchy reflected on that as well, comparing to pistols. Well, you show me a pistol that has something like that. Show me one semi pistol that you cannot hold by the PG...you cannot hold an AR with this thing. |
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this thread is full of misdirection. I think the real build has a collapsible stock, short, threaded bbl, shoulder thing that goes up, bayonet lug, grenade launcher, claymore mine and swiss army knife deployment attachment. Shit, he's gotta have something to use with his wheelbarrow full of Beta mags. You forgot to include the Desert Eagle he plans to mount to the rail.
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this thread is full of misdirection. I think the real build has a collapsible stock, short, threaded bbl, shoulder thing that goes up, bayonet lug, grenade launcher, claymore mine and swiss army knife deployment attachment. Shit, he's gotta have something to use with his wheelbarrow full of Beta mags. Don't tell them about my Noveske/Magpul Somalia compliant build! |
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I should be able to have you arrested for criminal stupidity for going to law school Unless the Molon Labies are going to break you out of prison and pay for you to move to Switzerland I wouldn't pay much attention to them. There are tons of post ban-ish AR15s with the pistol grip cut off being sold. Throw a hissy fit if you want [shrug] edit I would not want to guess how many have a pistol grip put back on about ten minutes after they are home. |
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Quoted: I should be able to have you arrested for criminal stupidity for going to law school Unless the Molon Labies are going to break you out of prison and pay for you to move to Switzerland I wouldn't pay much attention to them. There are tons of post ban-ish AR15s with the pistol grip cut off being sold. Throw a hissy fit if you want [shrug] edit I would not want to guess how many have a pistol grip put back on about ten minutes after they are home. Everyone is a bad ass until they are facing prison time. Then all the sudden, for some funny reason, they turn into a crying little bitch.
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Unless the Molon Labies are going to break you out of prison and pay for you to move to Switzerland I wouldn't pay much attention to them. There are tons of post ban-ish AR15s with the pistol grip cut off being sold. Throw a hissy fit if you want [shrug] edit I would not want to guess how many have a pistol grip put back on about ten minutes after they are home. OFT. Everyone is a bad ass until they are facing prison time. Then all the sudden, for some funny reason, they turn into a crying little bitch. Quoted:
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I should be able to have you arrested for criminal stupidity for going to law school edit I would not want to guess how many have a pistol grip put back on about ten minutes after they are home. OFT. Everyone is a bad ass until they are facing prison time. Then all the sudden, for some funny reason, they turn into a crying little bitch. I'm too good looking to go to prison |
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Quoted: I'm too good looking to go to prison Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I should be able to have you arrested for criminal stupidity for going to law school edit I would not want to guess how many have a pistol grip put back on about ten minutes after they are home. OFT. Everyone is a bad ass until they are facing prison time. Then all the sudden, for some funny reason, they turn into a crying little bitch. I'm too good looking to go to prison |
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It doesn't count as saying "fuck you" if you just say it on here, or in the woods where no one sees, or alone in your basement where no one hears. Your posturing and grand political statement are meaningless. Quoted:
It doesn't count as saying "fuck you" if you just say it on here, or in the woods where no one sees, or alone in your basement where no one hears. Your posturing and grand political statement are meaningless. Quoted:
What says FUAC more- the rifle hidden in the closet or the one that's made compliant, stays in NY unregistered, and still goes to the range? Doing whatever you want without regard to bullshit "laws" is the best "Fuck You" there is. |
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Unless the Molon Labies are going to break you out of prison and pay for you to move to Switzerland I wouldn't pay much attention to them. There are tons of post ban-ish AR15s with the pistol grip cut off being sold. Throw a hissy fit if you want [shrug] edit I would not want to guess how many have a pistol grip put back on about ten minutes after they are home. OFT. Everyone is a bad ass until they are facing prison time. Then all the sudden, for some funny reason, they turn into a crying little bitch. Quoted:
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I should be able to have you arrested for criminal stupidity for going to law school edit I would not want to guess how many have a pistol grip put back on about ten minutes after they are home. OFT. Everyone is a bad ass until they are facing prison time. Then all the sudden, for some funny reason, they turn into a crying little bitch. Look, I don't disagree with you guys, and I agree that not many will actually make that sacrifice when it comes down to it...its a major, life altering decision.... BUT... Seriously, if everyone thought like you guys, we'd still be speaking English (as in British English... Don't forget it only takes a few brave men to spark a revolution |
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If you think getting thrown in prison will help, go for it. But at some point the hijack of every safe act rifle thread with "molon labe, let's get our assholes stretched" has to end QFT EtA- people ask why this HTF has fallen from how awesome it used tl be - because 7 posts in everything turns into FUAC or SAFE act bullshit. No one is even talking about how ungodly cold it is or how Syracuse got their 2-3 zones penetrated by VA. Go Cuse. |
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Curious to ask why go with a spur, and not a mag lock? You want the ability to swap 10 round mags that much?
If I am looking at compliance options, I like the mag lock...at least an AR still looks like an AR to me....no matter how you slice it, the state and that fuckin cocksucker Cuomo fucked all utility out of the AR.... I like the idea of letting some libtard shitstain crap his pants at the sight of a fully tricked out legal, locked mag AR...fuck you Mr. liberal, now I got a bayonet, and collapsible stock...and am compliant with your bullshit law...suck it! |
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I copyrighted Molon Labia.
I think detachable magazine is a much more usable feature than anything else. Fuck top loading I have an SKS if I want to play historical games. I am putting ladder grip on the spur, hoping to shoot next weekend (late goose this weekend, some guys with guns do hunt more than paper). Any Camillus member can meet me and try it out. |
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I'm sorry. No personal attacks. Won't happen again. If anyone wants to try it we can set up a range day. For someone who didn't have a black rifle pre 2013 this is not an awful option. I would atill take it over a mini 14. I'm seriously looking forward to a range report on this thing. Correct me if I'm wrong but you can not have any fore grip/vertical grip/angle grip? I'm just thinking that would give you "extra" control upfront |
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Quoted: Look, I don't disagree with you guys, and I agree that not many will actually make that sacrifice when it comes down to it...its a major, life altering decision.... BUT... Seriously, if everyone thought like you guys, we'd still be speaking English (as in British English... Don't forget it only takes a few brave men to spark a revolution Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I should be able to have you arrested for criminal stupidity for going to law school edit I would not want to guess how many have a pistol grip put back on about ten minutes after they are home. OFT. Everyone is a bad ass until they are facing prison time. Then all the sudden, for some funny reason, they turn into a crying little bitch. Look, I don't disagree with you guys, and I agree that not many will actually make that sacrifice when it comes down to it...its a major, life altering decision.... BUT... Seriously, if everyone thought like you guys, we'd still be speaking English (as in British English... Don't forget it only takes a few brave men to spark a revolution Because that is about the size of what will happen now days ![]() What will you do when the time comes? All these bad asses here calling for revolution, but nobody wants to fire the first shot ![]() Looks like you aren't one of the "few brave men" either.
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I'm seriously looking forward to a range report on this thing. Correct me if I'm wrong but you can not have any fore grip/vertical grip/angle grip? I'm just thinking that would give you "extra" control upfront Quoted:
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I'm sorry. No personal attacks. Won't happen again. If anyone wants to try it we can set up a range day. For someone who didn't have a black rifle pre 2013 this is not an awful option. I would atill take it over a mini 14. I'm seriously looking forward to a range report on this thing. Correct me if I'm wrong but you can not have any fore grip/vertical grip/angle grip? I'm just thinking that would give you "extra" control upfront I wanted one of those Magpul forward grips but that is out. I actually think the 10 O'clock or "C" grip may work. I may even take videos after it is sighted in. |
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I wanted one of those Magpul forward grips but that is out. I actually think the 10 O'clock or "C" grip may work. I may even take videos after it is sighted in. Quoted:
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I'm sorry. No personal attacks. Won't happen again. If anyone wants to try it we can set up a range day. For someone who didn't have a black rifle pre 2013 this is not an awful option. I would atill take it over a mini 14. I'm seriously looking forward to a range report on this thing. Correct me if I'm wrong but you can not have any fore grip/vertical grip/angle grip? I'm just thinking that would give you "extra" control upfront I wanted one of those Magpul forward grips but that is out. I actually think the 10 O'clock or "C" grip may work. I may even take videos after it is sighted in. I have some of those magpul angle fore grips laying around but I think that's the no go your speaking of. Maybe a simple hand stop on the bottom rail would work. Anyway you could drill a big ass hole for your thumb to go through lol or is that a "thumb hole" stock classification |
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QFT EtA- people ask why this HTF has fallen from how awesome it used tl be - because 7 posts in everything turns into FUAC or SAFE act bullshit. No one is even talking about how ungodly cold it is or how Syracuse got their 2-3 zones penetrated by VA. Go Cuse. Quoted:
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If you think getting thrown in prison will help, go for it. But at some point the hijack of every safe act rifle thread with "molon labe, let's get our assholes stretched" has to end QFT EtA- people ask why this HTF has fallen from how awesome it used tl be - because 7 posts in everything turns into FUAC or SAFE act bullshit. No one is even talking about how ungodly cold it is or how Syracuse got their 2-3 zones penetrated by VA. Go Cuse. How about the fact they weren't even broadcast last night unless you were outside of CNY? Sounds like they got "penetrated" pretty good by GA Tech too. Because it wasn't broadcast, I HAD TO watch the Voice instead..... Has it been seven posts yet? Just for you Highspeed, FUAC! :) |
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What will you do when the time comes? All these bad asses here calling for revolution, but nobody wants to fire the first shot
Looks like you aren't one of the "few brave men" either. Without delving into personal attacks, which I would love to do since you seem to be calling me a pussy.... What part of "I am not disagreeing with you guys " don't you understand...no real big words in there... All I am saying is this is a shitty situation for everyone...people vent their frustrations over this in different ways... Now some people pull the FU I won't comply card....Yes, it is predictable now, but every time someone does some Tory like you will retort with the "you're nothing but a pussy" card. My point, that unless you personally know them, you do not know how serious they are, or what they are capable of.... Please don't judge me as a coward since you don't know me...I never said what I may or may not do, other than I like the fixed mag idea. That's it. I don't think anyone can say with certainty what they might do if backed into a corner until it happens... And at one time in our history, some brave men decided to stand up to tyranny, started a revolution, and won. My point is if they listened to the people like you back then (they were called Torries...)...they would have done nothing....until you can see into a mans heart, maybe you should leave making judgements to others... Oh, and by the way, you are very wrong, back then they were not sure 110% of everyone would have their back...that's the whole reasoning behind the naming of the 3% group...not a whole lot of the population actively backed the Revolution until they started winning...Those men risked everything including their lives....But I am sure they were pussies too... |
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Quoted: I copyrighted Molon Labia. I think detachable magazine is a much more usable feature than anything else. Fuck top loading I have an SKS if I want to play historical games. I am putting ladder grip on the spur, hoping to shoot next weekend (late goose this weekend, some guys with guns do hunt more than paper). Any Camillus member can meet me and try it out. I'm not butchering a $1400 Noveske upper and a couple collectible pre-89 Chinese AKs.
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Back then, they were 110% that everyone would have their back. No so sure about this time around. Are you willing to pay for my lawyer? Take care of my sick father? Provide me with a good paying job when I get out of prison? Get me my right to own a firearm back? Because that is about the size of what will happen now days
What will you do when the time comes? All these bad asses here calling for revolution, but nobody wants to fire the first shot
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I should be able to have you arrested for criminal stupidity for going to law school edit I would not want to guess how many have a pistol grip put back on about ten minutes after they are home. OFT. Everyone is a bad ass until they are facing prison time. Then all the sudden, for some funny reason, they turn into a crying little bitch. Look, I don't disagree with you guys, and I agree that not many will actually make that sacrifice when it comes down to it...its a major, life altering decision.... BUT... Seriously, if everyone thought like you guys, we'd still be speaking English (as in British English... Don't forget it only takes a few brave men to spark a revolution
What will you do when the time comes? All these bad asses here calling for revolution, but nobody wants to fire the first shot
Looks like you aren't one of the "few brave men" either. Actually, I have made reservations, and have called dibs on firing the eighth shot. "G-man".
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Quoted: Without delving into personal attacks, which I would love to do since you seem to be calling me a pussy.... What part of "I am not disagreeing with you guys " don't you understand...no real big words in there... All I am saying is this is a shitty situation for everyone...people vent their frustrations over this in different ways... Now some people pull the FU I won't comply card....Yes, it is predictable now, but every time someone does some Tory like you will retort with the "you're nothing but a pussy" card. My point, that unless you personally know them, you do not know how serious they are, or what they are capable of.... Please don't judge me as a coward since you don't know me...I never said what I may or may not do, other than I like the fixed mag idea. That's it. I don't think anyone can say with certainty what they might do if backed into a corner until it happens... And at one time in our history, some brave men decided to stand up to tyranny, started a revolution, and won. My point is if they listened to the people like you back then (they were called Torries...)...they would have done nothing....until you can see into a mans heart, maybe you should leave making judgements to others... Oh, and by the way, you are very wrong, back then they were not sure 110% of everyone would have their back...that's the whole reasoning behind the naming of the 3% group...not a whole lot of the population actively backed the Revolution until they started winning...Those men risked everything including their lives....But I am sure they were pussies too... Quoted: Quoted: What will you do when the time comes? All these bad asses here calling for revolution, but nobody wants to fire the first shot ![]() Looks like you aren't one of the "few brave men" either. Without delving into personal attacks, which I would love to do since you seem to be calling me a pussy.... What part of "I am not disagreeing with you guys " don't you understand...no real big words in there... All I am saying is this is a shitty situation for everyone...people vent their frustrations over this in different ways... Now some people pull the FU I won't comply card....Yes, it is predictable now, but every time someone does some Tory like you will retort with the "you're nothing but a pussy" card. My point, that unless you personally know them, you do not know how serious they are, or what they are capable of.... Please don't judge me as a coward since you don't know me...I never said what I may or may not do, other than I like the fixed mag idea. That's it. I don't think anyone can say with certainty what they might do if backed into a corner until it happens... And at one time in our history, some brave men decided to stand up to tyranny, started a revolution, and won. My point is if they listened to the people like you back then (they were called Torries...)...they would have done nothing....until you can see into a mans heart, maybe you should leave making judgements to others... Oh, and by the way, you are very wrong, back then they were not sure 110% of everyone would have their back...that's the whole reasoning behind the naming of the 3% group...not a whole lot of the population actively backed the Revolution until they started winning...Those men risked everything including their lives....But I am sure they were pussies too... I apologize if I came off like I insulted you. But I felt that I was being insulted myself. And you are 110% that I was wrong. I guess what I was trying to say was that back then you would have been 110% sure that those 3% what have back you up. It is also my opinion that if someone wants to make a compliant AR, that's their own prerogative, and doesn't make them a pussy. How can anyone see into their heart, as to why they're doing that?I realize you didn't say anything like this, but it's definitely been the vibe of this whole entire thread.
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I copyrighted Molon Labia. I think detachable magazine is a much more usable feature than anything else. Fuck top loading I have an SKS if I want to play historical games. I am putting ladder grip on the spur, hoping to shoot next weekend (late goose this weekend, some guys with guns do hunt more than paper). Any Camillus member can meet me and try it out. I'm not butchering a $1400 Noveske upper and a couple collectible pre-89 Chinese AKs. So you're going to fix the mags, right? |
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You might want to go back and read your own original post? You stated "you guys" in that post basically calling me an aimless pussies? So you might want to take your own advice as far as seeing into another man's heart? I apologize if I came off like I insulted you. But I felt that I was being insulted myself. And you are 110% that I was wrong. I guess what I was trying to say was that back then you would have been 110% sure that those 3% what have back you up. It is also my opinion that if someone wants to make a compliant AR, that's their own prerogative, and doesn't make them a pussy. How can anyone see into their heart, as to why they're doing that?I realize you didn't say anything like this, but it's definitely been the vibe of this whole entire thread. The point of my original post was to say I agree with you and Aimless as far as lots of people making statements that when the rubber meets the road they may not carry out, BUT that doesn't mean people need to jump on them and call them liars or cowards hiding behind a keyboard. I am sure that at least some of the guys stating they will not comply truly will not, and will be willing to pay what price they may. Another thing not to forget, there would not have been a Heller decision without Heller, who decided he would not comply. What and how each person will do to fight this in their own way is up to that individual. I have never cast aspersions on those who decided they would register, even though I disagree with it. They may have circumstances that demand this is the way they go. I certainly never cast aspersions on those who will find a work around to avoid registration. On the contrary, I applaud ALL those efforts, as I see them as civil disobedience, a poke in the eye of Andy, and a giant FU to the gun grabbers. We are saying you can pass your BS laws, and we will find a way around them, and end up owning basically the same rifles legally. Like I said, I enjoy the thought of the Gestapo like LEO’s salivating over the possibility of arresting someone, and finding out that their rifle is legal…FU JBT. I love the thought of some gun grabbing anti-gun pussy being scared because they see someone with a compliant rifle they thought was now illegal. Anyway, in no way was I trying to insult you or aimless, just pointing out that jumping on people for saying they will not comply is no way to fight this thing. Because we better hope there are those out there who really won’t comply, or we might as well just turn all our guns over to the state now. Because if everyone just chooses to go meekly into the night, the fight is over. And as stated above, I applaud all efforts to undermine this BS, including making your guns compliant so you don’t have to register. Because registration and confiscation/surrender is their bottom line. Show them that we will not bow to them. Whichever way you choose to do it is all good…I just personally hate the spur/funky stock method…and the Mini 14 method. But that’s just like my opinion, man…. |
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Not bad looking at all but whos to say thats NOT a pistol grip? The good thing (if we can look for a light while being buried under 1,000 tons of bullshit) is that any modification that you make that makes YOU think you don't have to register, is a valid defense against prosecution. If you don't think you need to register because you changed x, y, or z, then you get 30 days to register if someone wants to come down on you about it. |




