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11/2/2013 6:37:04 PM EDT
Good Evening Fellow NYers,
I am new here. Been reading for a while but it became time to join, I want to build an AR legally here in NY. I posted something in the main forum and was directed here. What are my options? Can u still buy a stripped lower? Can we still purchase ammo online? I want to build something nice. All high end parts.  I wanna build three identical ones and give one to each of my brothers. They have been there for me through a lot of bull crap and want to do something nice but also don't want us all sharing a jail cell. Any guidance is really appreciated.
Thanks
11/2/2013 7:21:53 PM EDT
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FUAC
11/2/2013 7:32:43 PM EDT
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OP,
suggest you go on Queen Andy's website and review the SAFE act.
Many here will suspect your actual motives as well.   Just sayin'
11/2/2013 7:33:27 PM EDT
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Move.

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11/2/2013 8:33:46 PM EDT
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Let's blow through some formalities before I address your question, don't do anything illegal, don't try to skirt the laws because they will go after you anyway if it is arguably close enough to get another statistic in their favor, be advised that there are no more personal face-to-face sales in New York without a background check and no one here is going to be taking solicitations to buy/sell seriously.  If by some chance you aren't a member of law enforcement or government or a politically affiliated organization looking to make headlines, I'll give you one piece of solid advice for the moment, take your brothers to the gun store and buy yourselves something besides a set of ARs, I'm partial to WWII era antiques, but there are lots of nice things out there, or move to a better state, the AR game is over in New York for the foreseeable future.

 
11/2/2013 9:59:36 PM EDT
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Move. Only real solution. Maybe return if bad laws get overturned in 6 years, but I don't see that happening. Basically what EMS said, but be sure not to sneeze, I think that's going to be a crime soon.
11/2/2013 11:14:18 PM EDT
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Mini-14
11/2/2013 11:18:04 PM EDT
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Mini-14


Sure.  For a few years.  Until the next step where any semi-auto is banned flat out.
11/2/2013 11:38:03 PM EDT
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I hear select fire is nice.










In all seriousness though, I'd suggest choosing something else until you can move to a more gun-friendly state.


11/3/2013 3:24:52 AM EDT
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You know, these kinds of answers really piss off reporters and investigators looking to make a quick anti-gun headline.  We really need to think of them and their paychecks...





Sorry, I crack myself up sometimes!







 
11/3/2013 6:27:17 AM EDT
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I got to thinking the other day. The Marlin Camp 45 would be a cool carbine to have. Not only does it share mags with a 1911 it can only hold 7.
Just carry 15 mags.
11/3/2013 7:40:37 AM EDT
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You are too late and can't legally build an AR-15.

11/3/2013 7:56:25 AM EDT
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OP, really?

These people always have the same bullshit story.  "Long time lurker, time finally to join and ask how to do something illegal."  
Good luck with your fishing expedition, <coc violation>!

ETA:  I finally realize how the join date / post count thing works.  He will go away now and try again in a month with a different name.
11/3/2013 8:15:02 AM EDT
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He's not asking to do anything illegal, he's asking if he can build a NY-legal AR. The answer is it's currently not possible. But he can find a Fab-10 lower and build a fixed-mag AR
11/3/2013 9:03:49 AM EDT
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Yes, he is. Read it again.
11/3/2013 10:25:00 AM EDT
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Where do your brother live ??

 
 
 
and
       
FUAC and his minions

 

11/3/2013 10:50:07 AM EDT
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Good Evening Fellow NYers,
I am new here. Been reading for a while but it became time to join, I want to build an AR legally here in NY. I posted something in the main forum and was directed here. What are my options? Can u still buy a stripped lower? Can we still purchase ammo online? I want to build something nice. All high end parts.  I wanna build three identical ones and give one to each of my brothers. They have been there for me through a lot of bull crap and want to do something nice but also don't want us all sharing a jail cell. Any guidance is really appreciated.
Thanks
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IF you've "Been reading for a while " then you'd already know that it can't be done thanks to the un-SAFE act. If you want a semi-automatic rifle that kind of, sort of looks like the formerly legal AR-15 then go to one of the Dealers making them.
No one here (or most of the State for that matter) likes, agrees, or supports that complete and utter bullshit that was rammed up our asses last January under color of Law. HOWEVER we will NOT say, do, or disclose anything that may be construed as illegal or questionable.  

Yes you can still buy stripped lower receivers as they are nothing more than a serial numbered part, but be ware having a complete lower and a semi-automatic upper receiver construes "intent" which is enough to make you Bubba's guest bitch.
11/3/2013 11:21:49 AM EDT
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First off, I am not a le or reporter. Jesus Christ some of you guys are paranoid. Shove it up your cunt if you have nothing constructive to say or add. How does that sound? Go get laid or a drink or something. Damn.

Anyway, thanks to the people who helped me. I never asked to do anything illegal. Any clown who has nothing positive to add please don't respond, it's that simple.
11/3/2013 11:30:38 AM EDT
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Oh no he di-int!
11/3/2013 11:53:24 AM EDT
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Sure you did. Maybe you realize it and maybe you don't. But if you are going to ask unSAFE act questions you should be prepared for negative responses simply because there are many negative aspects of the law.

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 I wanna build three identical ones and give one to each of my brothers.


It is most likely illegal for you to give your brothers rifles.


Q: What types of private handgun, rifle or shotgun sales or transfers are subject to background check requirements?
A: Starting on March 15, 2013, all private handgun, rifle or shotgun sales or transfers (with the exception of those sales or transfers to and between certain family members) will require a background check of the buyer.

Q: What family members are exempt from the private sale/transfer provision?
A: Sales or transfers to and between spouses, domestic partners, children and step-children, are exempt from the private sale/transfer provision.

Q: What if I fail to comply with the background check provision?
A: Failure to comply with the provision is punishable as a class A misdemeanor.



It does not say siblings on that list. If what you want to do falls under the "children" provision of that, it is poorly worded and you would be wise to investigate this further before proceeding.


11/3/2013 12:52:31 PM EDT
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Anyway, thanks to the people who helped me. I never asked to do anything illegal. Any clown who has nothing positive to add please don't respond, it's that simple.
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New guy here has to post pics of his wife, girlfriend or both.  Otherwise, I'm still calling B.S.
11/3/2013 1:12:52 PM EDT
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Anyway, thanks to the people who helped me. I never asked to do anything illegal. Any clown who has nothing positive to add please don't respond, it's that simple.
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 If you have been lurking and reading as you claim, you know the answers to your questions.  The search feature is your friend.
11/3/2013 1:12:52 PM EDT
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Actually, that's exactly what you did, because you cannot legally build an AR-15.  Those days are done.

In terms of giving you positive advice, yes you can buy ammo online until mid January, so you have a few months before that's over too.

There are other semi-auto rifles that would not be banned by SAFE, and just subject to the magazine restrictions.  Like Mini-14, some configurations of the M-14 (LRB does one) and the Browning BAR.  Stuff with no pistol grip, collapsible stock, bayonet lug, flash suppressor, etc.
11/3/2013 1:54:38 PM EDT
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I just want to make note of the judicious use of the word "cunt" by BuildArproper.  Well done sir , well done,  lol
11/3/2013 2:06:07 PM EDT
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Paranoia  is  the unfounded   perceived  fear  that  someone  is  out  to   do  you  harm . There  are  people   now here  in  this  state  now  who  are "  out  to  get " ( as  in
harass and  arrest ) law  abiding  gun  owners . No  one  here  is  paranoid . Got  It ?
11/3/2013 2:52:15 PM EDT
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Well it was nice knowing you.
11/3/2013 3:11:32 PM EDT
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 If you have been lurking and reading as you claim, you know the answers to your questions.  The search feature is your friend.
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First off, I am not a le or reporter. Jesus Christ some of you guys are paranoid. Shove it up your cunt if you have nothing constructive to say or add. How does that sound? Go get laid or a drink or something. Damn.

Anyway, thanks to the people who helped me. I never asked to do anything illegal. Any clown who has nothing positive to add please don't respond, it's that simple.



 If you have been lurking and reading as you claim, you know the answers to your questions.  The search feature is your friend.



Not necessarily.

I've been here six years, have more than a few posts, and am still not always sure of the answers to these questions.

Of course, the fact that I don't really care may have something to do with that.

11/3/2013 3:19:00 PM EDT
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Unpossible.  My cunt is chock full.

11/3/2013 8:04:27 PM EDT
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Wow...no one saw that coming....



 
11/4/2013 5:16:29 AM EDT
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Anyway, thanks to the people who helped me. I never asked to do anything illegal. Any clown who has nothing positive to add please don't respond, it's that simple.
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Oh yeah - that's gonna get you ALL kinds of help here on the NYHTF bro. Welcome aboard snapperhead!  
11/4/2013 6:02:13 AM EDT
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Well it was nice knowing you.
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First off, I am not a le or reporter. Jesus Christ some of you guys are paranoid. Shove it up your cunt if you have nothing constructive to say or add. How does that sound? Go get laid or a drink or something. Damn.

Anyway, thanks to the people who helped me. I never asked to do anything illegal. Any clown who has nothing positive to add please don't respond, it's that simple.



Well it was nice knowing you.




yeah pretty much....
11/4/2013 6:56:47 AM EDT
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One option.  There are others available as well.






https://www.exilemachine.net/shop/pages/we-ship-to-ny-33.html






Our CEO's family has lived in upstate New York for the past 30 years. We've got your back, New York!


Yes, we gladly ship to New York!

 
We have 11,000+ items on our
store, and most of these can be shipped to New York.  Obviously we can't
sell you any high capacity magazines, but there's plenty of other good
stuff in our catalog to help you get on target at the range or bag a
trophy on your next hunt.







Proceeds
from the sales of most items on this store go toward the development
and production of ban-compliance devices, such as our Hammerhead AR-15 stock adapter.
We may have something that can help you stay legal.
Example NY-SAFE sporting rifle configuration with Hammerhead stock adapter, RRA Entry Stock, RRA Entry Receiver Extension Tube, and 5" dipped rubber cover.


 
 
11/5/2013 12:59:41 AM EDT
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One option.  There are others available as well.

https://www.exilemachine.net/shop/pages/we-ship-to-ny-33.html

Our CEO's family has lived in upstate New York for the past 30 years. We've got your back, New York!

Yes, we gladly ship to New York!

 We have 11,000+ items on our store, and most of these can be shipped to New York.  Obviously we can't sell you any high capacity magazines, but there's plenty of other good stuff in our catalog to help you get on target at the range or bag a trophy on your next hunt.

Proceeds from the sales of most items on this store go toward the development and production of ban-compliance devices, such as our Hammerhead AR-15 stock adapter. We may have something that can help you stay legal.

Example NY-SAFE sporting rifle configuration with Hammerhead stock adapter, RRA Entry Stock, RRA Entry Receiver Extension Tube, and 5" dipped rubber cover.

https://www.exilemachine.net/images/slide_hammerhead_NYS3.jpg    
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In all honesty the "compliant ARs" are just as deadly and dangerous as the "evil" ones.  The only difference is less ergonomics for the user and possibly more chance of an accident happening (to the user who as we know is most likely going to be a good law abiding person like one of us). But if anybody with evil in their heart brought one of those ugly ass "legal" ARs into a crowded place and started shooting it would be just as bad. It's only a matter of time until they come after all semi-autos via a total ban and confiscation. This is why we must take a stand now. Make no mistake, they are coming for our guns.  Also, what's to stop a crazy person from just modifying it and adding and evil baby killing pistol grip before they go on their shooting spree?  Not a damn thing.
11/5/2013 3:24:18 AM EDT
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i built an AR15 once, i died.
11/5/2013 3:47:49 PM EDT
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Oh yeah - that's gonna get you ALL kinds of help here on the NYHTF bro. Welcome aboard snapperhead!  
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First off, I am not a le or reporter. Jesus Christ some of you guys are paranoid. Shove it up your cunt if you have nothing constructive to say or add. How does that sound? Go get laid or a drink or something. Damn.

Anyway, thanks to the people who helped me. I never asked to do anything illegal. Any clown who has nothing positive to add please don't respond, it's that simple.



Oh yeah - that's gonna get you ALL kinds of help here on the NYHTF bro. Welcome aboard snapperhead!