Posted: 3/30/2013 6:31:53 PM EDT
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Had this question asked of me via gunbroker for a 84s --
Will you sell to a fellow New Yorker? I can show you my ID and pay stub it will show that I am finger printed and obviously allowed to have a gun. I am very interested and hope maybe you will help me. Let me know thanks.....my email i Be carful guy there trying to set us up |
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Had this question asked of me via gunbroker for a 84s -- Will you sell to a fellow New Yorker? I can show you my ID and pay stub it will show that I am finger printed and obviously allowed to have a gun. I am very interested and hope maybe you will help me. Let me know thanks.....my email i Be carful guy there trying to set us up Told hon FFL TRANSFERS ONLY. Five min later he responds This gun cannot be transferred in NYS. This is under the AWB otherwise I would be all for that. I have nothing to hide, I’m not a criminal and not out to screw you over. Like I said I will show you my id and proof I work somewhere that I’m finger printed. I won’t tell anyone where I got it – well I don’t plan on telling anyone anything. And obviously you wouldn’t ship it in it’s original box. Though I would hope you would ship me the box. You can ship barrels directly to a person. Thanks and hope you consider it. Rich G. |
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Had this question asked of me via gunbroker for a 84s -- Will you sell to a fellow New Yorker? I can show you my ID and pay stub it will show that I am finger printed and obviously allowed to have a gun. I am very interested and hope maybe you will help me. Let me know thanks.....my email i Be carful guy there trying to set us up Told hon FFL TRANSFERS ONLY. Five min later he responds This gun cannot be transferred in NYS. This is under the AWB otherwise I would be all for that. I have nothing to hide, I’m not a criminal and not out to screw you over. Like I said I will show you my id and proof I work somewhere that I’m finger printed. I won’t tell anyone where I got it – well I don’t plan on telling anyone anything. And obviously you wouldn’t ship it in it’s original box. Though I would hope you would ship me the box. You can ship barrels directly to a person. Thanks and hope you consider it. Rich G. When he gets caught with it he will give you up in a heartbeat. |
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I don't doubt they will eventually run online stings en masse, but I doubt every person from NY on these sites is a cop right now.
It's probably some poor guy who has wanted this type of rifle before the ban and never thought of buying until the mad rush in December. By then it was just too late to get anything anywhere. He just hopes he can get something on the DL because he knows there is no way to prove he didn't have it before the ban. Naturally though, I wouldn't expect anyone to put themselves out there to help someone they don't know. Just tell him you feel the pain too and to contact his representatives or give to the legal fund. |
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Four possibilities (probably more):
1) official sting op 2) anti-gun stooge looking for something to use 3) someone who didn't get something in time, and is desperate 4) an idiot In any event if you don't go FFL to FFL, and it's not outside NYS you get screwed. |
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Four possibilities (probably more): 1) official sting op 2) anti-gun stooge looking for something to use 3) someone who didn't get something in time, and is desperate 4) an idiot In any event if you don't go FFL to FFL, and it's not outside NYS you get screwed. so say i was to meet him in PA that would be ok then I sold it out of state then its his problem right |
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rkbar15 would be the one to answer that, IMHO.
He seems well versed on the intricacies of this moronic law written by lobotomized chickens. He must have a stomach of iron and a special brain filter to keep from going bonkers reading that shit. I'd have to guess that it would be illegal, merely from the fact that the law is gibberish in most places (intentionally) so you are wrong no matter what. Like from Atlas Shrugged - "There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. When there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." |
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Four possibilities (probably more): 1) official sting op 2) anti-gun stooge looking for something to use 3) someone who didn't get something in time, and is desperate 4) an idiot In any event if you don't go FFL to FFL, and it's not outside NYS you get screwed. so say i was to meet him in PA that would be ok then I sold it out of state then its his problem right is it really worth the risk? he wont tell you where he is fingerprinted cause he is a cop.....or the cops printed him! bring it to an ffl. let them transfer it. some ffls will transfer a stripped lower. sell him the other "parts" transfer the stripped lower by an ffl. dont risk it. if you do, let us know how it went...... or can we just assume if we donot here from you for a while it is cause your lawyer said do not talk about the pending case? |
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Four possibilities (probably more): 1) official sting op 2) anti-gun stooge looking for something to use 3) someone who didn't get something in time, and is desperate 4) an idiot In any event if you don't go FFL to FFL, and it's not outside NYS you get screwed. so say i was to meet him in PA that would be ok then I sold it out of state then its his problem right Out of state private sales are illegal. |
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Four possibilities (probably more): 1) official sting op 2) anti-gun stooge looking for something to use 3) someone who didn't get something in time, and is desperate 4) an idiot In any event if you don't go FFL to FFL, and it's not outside NYS you get screwed. so say i was to meet him in PA that would be ok then I sold it out of state then its his problem right That right there is Your Answer Out of state private sales are illegal. |
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First off; never do anything illegal or even suspicious! Don't cause no trouble, there won't be no trouble.
"Are you under the control, direction, or employment of ANY State, Federal, or Local Law enforcement Agency?" Now you're thinking "Why would you ask that if you're not doing anything that violates the Law?" Think about it, even if you haven't done anything, had no intention, or knowledge, there's that anal probing that I'd just as soon for go...Go fish another hole. 
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Four possibilities (probably more): 1) official sting op 2) anti-gun stooge looking for something to use 3) someone who didn't get something in time, and is desperate 4) an idiot In any event if you don't go FFL to FFL, and it's not outside NYS you get screwed. so say i was to meet him in PA that would be ok then I sold it out of state then its his problem right You could meet him in PA to "look" at the rifle, however for him to take possession of the rifle, you (the seller) would have to deliver it to a FFL (and unless it was brick & mortar I would demand to see that Licenses) the it could be properly and legally transferred to the buyer. Same thing as selling off the EE and shipping it to a dealer on the receiving end. If you don't know for sure, don't do it. edited to add I base the "look" comment on someone that lives near the State line. |
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Reading all this stuff is weird - I'm re-reading The Gulag Archipelago by Solzhenitsyn again. All these laws sound like the laws set up after the 1917 Commie revolution in Russia, under which they sent millions to prison, the camps, or simply shot them. Vague laws that with the proper "dialectical" interpretation, could be used to arrest anybody for virtually anything.
Is this accident or intentional? 
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