Posted: 3/30/2013 12:52:11 PM EDT
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I wasn't sure so I wanted to ask. Is it legal to keep ammo loaded into stripper clips stored in my home? I believe it's illegal (in NY at least) to have magazines loaded in the house/when stored,
Some clarification would be appreciated, Thanks, |
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Stripper clips are not magazines or feeding devices. They are magazine loading devices and are not subject to the law. Feed strips are the things that feed WWII Jap machine guns. THEY are illegal if over 10 rounds. This. With the adapter all they do is assist in the loading of a magazine... W/O the adapter they are simply "organization." 
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FWIW As far as I know the ONLY time a stripper clip is an actual feed device is in the Type 11.
Type 11 Someone needs to make a semi auto version... lol |
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I was trying to think rationally myself. Its not a magazine, its a feeding device. I just wanted to be sure. Who the hell knows how these socialist will skew and bend the law.
And by the way, its for my Mosin. She's so much fun. Just need mucho padding if you wanna have a shoulder left after range day. |
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I was trying to think rationally myself. Its not a magazine, its a feeding device. I just wanted to be sure. Who the hell knows how these socialist will skew and bend the law. And by the way, its for my Mosin. She's so much fun. Just need mucho padding if you wanna have a shoulder left after range day. NO, it is not a feeding device. That could be subject to the law. It is a MAGAZINE LOADING DEVICE. |
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I was trying to think rationally myself. Its not a magazine, its a feeding device. I just wanted to be sure. Who the hell knows how these socialist will skew and bend the law. And by the way, its for my Mosin. She's so much fun. Just need mucho padding if you wanna have a shoulder left after range day. NO, it is not a feeding device. That could be subject to the law. It is a MAGAZINE LOADING DEVICE. You pronounce that really authoritatively for an issue that is at least somewhat questionable. The law covers "similar devices." If, hypothetically, I was an attorney, and I had a client, and that client asked me, and it wasn't a big deal to offload 3 rounds and not buy any more for a while, I would suggest doing that, and I might do it myself if I had any...what's the loss? It's also an issue of the reality that you can't use it legally as set up, meaning, you can't load those ten rounds outside of certain exceptions. Is it worth it? You really want to set up someone to test this out on their own? Also, there is no such thing as a "magazine loading device" under the law, you can't just say that it's outside of the legal definition of LCAFD in the law because it also falls under some colloquial definition. That doesn't really make any sense. The question is whether it is a "similar device" or not, not what words you would use to define it. IMHO it toes a line that I have no desire to mess with, and nothing to gain from messing with. |
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I was trying to think rationally myself. Its not a magazine, its a feeding device. I just wanted to be sure. Who the hell knows how these socialist will skew and bend the law. And by the way, its for my Mosin. She's so much fun. Just need mucho padding if you wanna have a shoulder left after range day. NO, it is not a feeding device. That could be subject to the law. It is a MAGAZINE LOADING DEVICE. You pronounce that really authoritatively for an issue that is at least somewhat questionable. The law covers "similar devices." If, hypothetically, I was an attorney, and I had a client, and that client asked me, and it wasn't a big deal to offload 3 rounds and not buy any more for a while, I would suggest doing that, and I might do it myself if I had any...what's the loss? It's also an issue of the reality that you can't use it legally as set up, meaning, you can't load those ten rounds outside of certain exceptions. Is it worth it? You really want to set up someone to test this out on their own? Also, there is no such thing as a "magazine loading device" under the law, you can't just say that it's outside of the legal definition of LCAFD in the law because it also falls under some colloquial definition. That doesn't really make any sense. The question is whether it is a "similar device" or not, not what words you would use to define it. IMHO it toes a line that I have no desire to mess with, and nothing to gain from messing with. That sir is the answer I got from the Governors Office. As I stated, there is a spreadsheet with those answers. I have the Troopers name and the date of the conversation. And I am pretty conservative when it comes to bending the law, but a stripper clip is a loading device NOT a feeding device. It was one of the most asked questions after the law was passed, in regards to Garand clips. A Garand clip is NOT a magazine or a feed strip. The Garand has an INTERNAL magazine. The en bloc clip is a LOADING DEVICE. NOT a "feeding" device. |
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That sir is the answer I got from the Governors Office. As I stated, there is a spreadsheet with those answers. I have the Troopers name and the date of the conversation. And I am pretty conservative when it comes to bending the law, but a stripper clip is a loading device NOT a feeding device. It was one of the most asked questions after the law was passed, in regards to Garand clips. A Garand clip is NOT a magazine or a feed strip. The Garand has an INTERNAL magazine. The en bloc clip is a LOADING DEVICE. NOT a "feeding" device. Ok, but again, made up non-legal terms issued by people who may or may not have the authority, at best, to issue persuasive interpretations of the law. |
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That sir is the answer I got from the Governors Office. As I stated, there is a spreadsheet with those answers. I have the Troopers name and the date of the conversation. And I am pretty conservative when it comes to bending the law, but a stripper clip is a loading device NOT a feeding device. It was one of the most asked questions after the law was passed, in regards to Garand clips. A Garand clip is NOT a magazine or a feed strip. The Garand has an INTERNAL magazine. The en bloc clip is a LOADING DEVICE. NOT a "feeding" device. Ok, but again, made up non-legal terms issued by people who may or may not have the authority, at best, to issue persuasive interpretations of the law. We will have to agree to disagree. |
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That sir is the answer I got from the Governors Office. As I stated, there is a spreadsheet with those answers. I have the Troopers name and the date of the conversation. And I am pretty conservative when it comes to bending the law, but a stripper clip is a loading device NOT a feeding device. It was one of the most asked questions after the law was passed, in regards to Garand clips. A Garand clip is NOT a magazine or a feed strip. The Garand has an INTERNAL magazine. The en bloc clip is a LOADING DEVICE. NOT a "feeding" device. Ok, but again, made up non-legal terms issued by people who may or may not have the authority, at best, to issue persuasive interpretations of the law. We will have to agree to disagree. You think that the informal back channel "rulings" that they make are mandatory authority for a court in New York? |
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I could go back, and check the law, but it's Easter, so I'll just spout off instead: What I recall is that the law defines anything that holds a cartridge, and feeds it into the chamber of the gun as a "large capacity ammunition feeding device" if can hold over 10 rounds. A stripper clip, doesn't feed the ammunition into the chamber of the weapon, thus stripper clips are not subject to the mag ban. Not a lawyer, YMMV, read the thing for yourself, etc. ect
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Apparently Webster.......Whatcu talkin bout ARFCOM????? |
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having loaded mags in your home is NOT in any way illegal per state law. up to ten rounds until april 15th, then 7 rounds thereafter. i have loaded mags and guns scattered all over the house. would not even consider not keeping my guns loaded in the house. I would not consider keeping the mags less than full. A criminal coming into your home is going to have the mags at full capacity. Our elected representatives are a joke. |
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Quoted: I would not consider keeping the mags less than full. A criminal coming into your home is going to have the mags at full capacity. Our elected representatives are a joke. Unfortunately the jokes on us. "Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, D-Manhattan, indicated he may be open to changing a major piece of the state’s gun-control law that limits the number of bullets in a magazine to seven. Silver suggested today that because manufacturers do not make magazines with seven bullets, lawmakers and Gov. Andrew Cuomo may need to revisit the restriction, which was part of the gun-control law passed Jan. 15. The prior law put the limit at 10 bullets in a magazine. A lot of things are being discussed,” Silver said. "It’s a question of whether no sevens are being manufactured in the state and maybe you’ll be able to use a 10 magazine with three blanks.” |
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I would not consider keeping the mags less than full. A criminal coming into your home is going to have the mags at full capacity. Our elected representatives are a joke. Unfortunately the jokes on us. "Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, D-Manhattan, indicated he may be open to changing a major piece of the state’s gun-control law that limits the number of bullets in a magazine to seven. Silver suggested today that because manufacturers do not make magazines with seven bullets, lawmakers and Gov. Andrew Cuomo may need to revisit the restriction, which was part of the gun-control law passed Jan. 15. The prior law put the limit at 10 bullets in a magazine.
A lot of things are being discussed,” Silver said. "It’s a question of whether no sevens are being manufactured in the state and maybe you’ll be able to use a 10 magazine with three blanks.” If you miss with the first 7 the last 3 may scare them away
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My buddy keeps 7 in his AR mag, and the other 3 lay right next to it. As a big F U to the Feds if they were to come in and search. He is not breaking any federal laws by putting 10 in the magazines. A big F U would be if he was robbed got off 7 rounds and was shot by a second intruder while loading 3 bullets. |
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My buddy keeps 7 in his AR mag, and the other 3 lay right next to it. As a big F U to the Feds if they were to come in and search. He is not breaking any federal laws by putting 10 in the magazines. A big F U would be if he was robbed got off 7 rounds and was shot by a second intruder while loading 3 bullets. Wouldnt that be and F U FROM the Intruders TO my buddy??? hahaha, |