Posted: 6/1/2012 12:34:21 PM EDT
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I'm moving soon, so I went out to buy boxes at a store in Rochester that sells boxes, tape, etc. There's a small administrative office inside the store with a sign on the door that says: "No Weapons allowed". They have box cutters, scissors, a screwdriver and other tools laying around, so I am pretty sure those are not able to be used as weapons. Thanks for letting me post and avoid packing for a little while longer. |
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Wouldn't it be fun to question the person(s) responsible for those "No weapons....allowed" signs who is going to protect me if something happens while I'm on their property?
Concealed means concealed. It's ironic how the FedEx facility I drop guns off at has several signs proclaiming no weapons, firearms, knives, et.al are allowed on the premises, and how all vehicles are subject to search, and so on. 
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Wouldn't it be fun to question the person(s) responsible for those "No weapons....allowed" signs who is going to protect me if something happens while I'm on their property? I've wondered about this as well. Say Person A(who has CCW) reads said sign and decides to leave weapon at home the next time they venture to the store. During one such occasion Person B(an irate ARFCOM member who was harassed about shipping firearm parts earlier that day) decides to come back and shoot up the place. Person A is shot by Person B. Would Person A/Person A's family have a lawsuit against the business that posted the sign? OP-Packing SUCKS! Leaving this shithole? |
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Until it's used or has intent to use, it's either a tool, an asset, or junk- not a weapon.
A pair of scissors is not a weapon until brandished or carried with intent. A rolled up magazine (paper kind) can be a weapon, but is not until used as such. Go ahead, whack your wife with your cell phone, I have $500 says you get a weapons charge. And thus, NYS CCW is ultimately a complete cluster, as a concealed handgun is no more a weapon than a National Geographic. But you knew that already. |
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I understand objects not commonly thought of as weapons can be used and deemed as such but how are you going to claim a pistol is being carried as a tool? Chuck is right: it's not a weapon until brandished as such. The inference is made with pictogram's of handguns and large knives, with the intent of discouraging those items. I don't carry a "knife" however I do have an edged cutting tool in my pocket. 
When I read these signs "For your protection, No Weapons are allowed." I can't help but think how illogical the statement is: The only way I'm "protected" would be from not being seen with a concealed (sic) handgun and subsequently being fired upon by some hot-head who decided that because I had a firearm on my person, that I should be dispatched, in which case my use would be self defense. Don't come in here wif no gun and homey land security won't pop yo' ass. 
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