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1/26/2012 4:11:25 PM EDT
Can a handgun, legally registered in NYS, be sold/disposed of to an individual in another state, provided the sale/transfer goes thru an FFL in that state?
1/26/2012 4:38:50 PM EDT
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yes i've done it.
1/27/2012 2:20:52 AM EDT
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Sure.
Just because NYS has some odd rules about guns doesn't mean there is a fence around the state that prohibits normal commerce in legal products.
1/27/2012 3:37:48 AM EDT
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Sure.

Just because NYS has some odd rules about guns doesn't mean there is a fence around the state that prohibits normal commerce in legal products.


Yet.  AWB II would make it illegal to ever remove your covered equipment from the state.



 
1/27/2012 3:59:06 AM EDT
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Yet.  AWB II would make it illegal to ever remove your covered equipment from the state.
 


Really.

I was unaware of that, and I don't see how they can legally mandate that.
1/27/2012 4:04:23 AM EDT
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Can a handgun, legally registered in NYS, be sold/disposed of to an individual in another state, provided the sale/transfer goes thru an FFL in that state?


I couldn't get a pistol I sold to someone out of state off my permit without paying a NY pistol permit FFL to ship it out These are not necessarily the brightest and best who wake up one morning and decide 'I think a career at the County Clerk's Office is for me!"
1/27/2012 4:08:22 AM EDT
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Yet.  AWB II would make it illegal to ever remove your covered equipment from the state.

 




Really.



I was unaware of that, and I don't see how they can legally mandate that.


AWB II restricts possession at and to/from an authorized range. Hunting or any other transport of a registered AW would be unlawful.









 
1/27/2012 4:10:39 AM EDT
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Yet.  AWB II would make it illegal to ever remove your covered equipment from the state.

 




Really.



I was unaware of that, and I don't see how they can legally mandate that.


AWB II restricts possession at and to/from an authorized range. Hunting or any other transport of a registered AW would be unlawful.



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No, you can transport to a gunshop (or gunsmith?), or at least the last version I read said you could, so you could drive it to the gunshop and then the ffl could ship it out.

 
1/27/2012 5:02:30 AM EDT
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No, you can transport to a gunshop (or gunsmith?), or at least the last version I read said you could, so you could drive it to the gunshop and then the ffl could ship it out.
 




There is no 265.20 exemption in the AWB II to transport a registered AW to/from a licensed gunsmith for any purpose other than  "lawful repair".





    9    Â§ 4. Section 265.20 of the penal law is amended by adding a new subdi-

   10  vision e to read as follows:



   11    e.  Possession  of  an assault weapon on property owned or immediately

   12  controlled by the person,  or  while  on  the  premises  of  a  licensed

   13  gunsmith for the purpose of lawful repair, or while engaged in the legal

   14  use  of  the  assault  weapon  at a duly licensed firing range, or while

   15  traveling to or from these locations, by a person who lawfully possessed

   16  such weapon prior to January first, two thousand thirteen and who, prior

   17  to April first, two thousand thirteen:





 

 
1/27/2012 5:07:20 AM EDT
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You got me 0 for 2 in Legal Quizmaster! Rule Against Perpetuities at 20 paces?
1/27/2012 6:55:51 AM EDT
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AWB II restricts possession at and to/from an authorized range. Hunting or any other transport of a registered AW would be unlawful.


How retarded
1/27/2012 9:24:01 AM EDT
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AWB II restricts possession at and to/from an authorized range. Hunting or any other transport of a registered AW would be unlawful.








How retarded



No more retarded than any the following:





 5    22. "Assault weapon" means any:





    6    (a)  Semi-automatic  or  pump-action  rifle  that  has the capacity to


    7  accept a detachable magazine and has one or more of the following:


    8    (i) A pistol grip;


    9    (ii) A second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be  held  by  the


   10  non-trigger hand;


   11    (iii) A folding or telescoping stock;


   12    (iv)  A shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely


   13  encircles the barrel, allowing the bearer to hold the firearm  with  the


   14  non-trigger  hand  without  being  burned,  but  excluding  a slide that


   15  encloses the barrel; or


   16    (v) A muzzle brake or muzzle compensator;





   17    (b) Semi-automatic pistol, or  any  semi-automatic,  centerfire  rifle


   18  with  a  fixed  magazine,  that has the capacity to accept more than ten


   19  rounds of ammunition;





   20    (c) Semi-automatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable


   21  magazine and has one or more of the following:


   22    (i) A second handgrip or a protruding grip that can  be  held  by  the


   23  non-trigger hand;


   24    (ii) A folding or telescoping stock;


   25    (iii) A shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely


   26  encircles  the  barrel, allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the


   27  non-trigger hand without  being  burned,  but  excluding  a  slide  that


   28  encloses the barrel;


   29    (iv) A muzzle brake or muzzle compensator; or


   30    (v)  The  capacity  to  accept  a  detachable magazine at any location


   31  outside of the pistol grip;





   32    (d) Semi-automatic shotgun that has one or more of the following:


   33    (i) A pistol grip or a vertical handgrip;


   34    (ii) A folding or telescoping stock;


   35    (iii) A fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; or


   36    (iv) An ability to accept a detachable magazine;





   37    (e) Shotgun with a revolving cylinder;





   38    (f) Grenade launcher;





   39    (g) Conversion kit, part, or  combination  of  parts,  from  which  an


   40  assault  weapon can be assembled if those parts are in the possession or


   41  under the control of the same person; or





   42    (h) Modifications of such features, or other features,  determined  by


   43  rules  and  regulations  of  the  superintendent  of  state police to be


   44  particularly suitable for military and not sporting purposes.  In  addi-


   45  tion,  the  superintendent  of  state  police  shall, by rules and regu-


   46  lations, designate specific semiautomatic centerfire or  rimfire  rifles


   47  or  semiautomatic shotguns, identified by make, model and manufacturer's


   48  name, to be within the definition of assault weapon, if the  superinten-


   49  dent of state police determines that such weapons are particularly suit-


   50  able  for military and not sporting purposes. A list of assault weapons,


   51  as determined by the superintendent  of  state  police,  shall  be  made


   52  available on a regular basis to the general public.





   53    Provided, however, that such term does not include any weapon that has


   54  been rendered permanently inoperable.
 
 
1/27/2012 11:30:18 AM EDT
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AWB II restricts possession at and to/from an authorized range. Hunting or any other transport of a registered AW would be unlawful.





How retarded


Yes but I can understand the evil logic behind it.  As the firearm could not be removed from the state and there does not (did not) appear to be a provision allowing the weapon to be transferred to someone else in the state, within two generations all legal so-called AWB's would be eliminated from the state through destruction thus totally removing them from all commerce.  The anti's manage to get them all destroyed (the legally registered ones anyhow) by preventing them from being sent to a state where they might still be legal.





 
1/27/2012 11:36:35 AM EDT
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AWB II restricts possession at and to/from an authorized range. Hunting or any other transport of a registered AW would be unlawful.


How retarded

Yes but I can understand the evil logic behind it.  As the firearm could not be removed from the state and there does not (did not) appear to be a provision allowing the weapon to be transferred to someone else in the state, within two generations all legal so-called AWB's would be eliminated from the state through destruction thus totally removing them from all commerce.  The anti's manage to get them all destroyed (the legally registered ones anyhow) by preventing them from being sent to a state where they might still be legal.

 


Yup, that all sounds retarded.

1/27/2012 1:00:19 PM EDT
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Yet.  AWB II would make it illegal to ever remove your covered equipment from the state.
 


Really.

I was unaware of that, and I don't see how they can legally mandate that.

AWB II restricts possession at and to/from an authorized range. Hunting or any other transport of a registered AW would be unlawful.



 


Wow. I've been gone a bit, what is this AWB II legislation? Is it hypothetical or has it passed?!
1/27/2012 1:14:00 PM EDT
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Wow. I've been gone a bit, what is this AWB II legislation? Is it hypothetical or has it passed?!








Nothing has been enacted into law. The AWB II bill has been passed in the NY Assembly from 2005-2010.  The Assembly never acted on it in 2011 so it seems they have given up for the time being.  





 
1/27/2012 1:23:37 PM EDT
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Wow. I've been gone a bit, what is this AWB II legislation? Is it hypothetical or has it passed?!


Nothing has been enacted into law. The AWB II bill has been passed in the NY Assembly from 2005-2010.  The Assembly never acted on in 2011 so it seems they have given up on it for the time being.  
 


Got it, thanks. I was aware that it was  the zombie bill and kept coming back every year and I was afraid that it had gotten through some how.

1/27/2012 6:55:48 PM EDT
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Wow. I've been gone a bit, what is this AWB II legislation? Is it hypothetical or has it passed?!





Nothing has been enacted into law. The AWB II bill has been passed in the NY Assembly from 2005-2010.  The Assembly never acted on it in 2011 so it seems they have given up for the time being.  

 


You guys scared the HELL out of me!  



 
1/27/2012 7:20:38 PM EDT
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Wow. I've been gone a bit, what is this AWB II legislation? Is it hypothetical or has it passed?!


Nothing has been enacted into law. The AWB II bill has been passed in the NY Assembly from 2005-2010.  The Assembly never acted on it in 2011 so it seems they have given up for the time being.  
 

You guys scared the HELL out of me!  
 


Keep in mind that's it's the work of NYSPRA and several other organizations in NY that keep this sort of legislation at bay.