Posted: 6/22/2010 9:02:25 AM EDT
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A "Katrina" type hurricane is 24hrs out from impacting the Island. There is no mandatory evac given... You live on an island, do you attempt to B.O., do you risk staying put. Are you prepared? Is trying to evac a few million people even a fathomable thought?
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An organized, efficient doomsday evac is not fathomable.
Our handful of major arteries swell to capacity in rainy rushour traffic. The store shelves empty under the expected pressure of the pre-christmas/thankgiving dinner crunch. Ever run to a hardware store before a simple snowstorm? Good luck. In a disaster scenario, you will not make it to a major airport, your bigass truck and trailer won't make it to a boatramp. You have two choices: prepared to get off this island FIRST ...or not all. Being first implies bags packed and preps on hand RIGHT NOW with an escape route to a specific destination in mind as opposed to sitting around waiting to see "how the situation plays out". At least a Katrina type event we might see comming. Escape is not impossible but 98% of people will be woefully underprepared. |
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I'll weather it. Knock on wood, my house is nearly 100 years old and has survived others, I'm on a hill well out of flood plains, and am stocked with provisions/supplies and weapons. Plus, I expect wide spread looting and mayhem to ensure and want to be sure I can look after my property.
As for my family, I live 10 minutes from the Throgs Neck Bridge - I'm sending them upstate. |
| Cat3 or worse and you will have no power for more than a month. 70-90% of above ground power distribution will be leveled. You will lose 911 service and fire response after a few days, and it will be at least 2 weeks before any help comes. They will NOT be able to get everyone off this island, if you get stuck somewhere in the car you're screwed. If you aren't mobile within the first 30 minutes after the order, don't bother going anywhere. |
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We live within a mile if the LIE near the Nassau/Suffolk border, not because of the ease of access, but because it is on the elevated "spine" of the island, well above the flood plains, and close to the highest point above sea level on the Island. Our preps can easlily take us thru several weeks , and many times that if we tighten the belts.
Short of an N/B/C situation, our immediate plan is to bug-in. |
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Let's see.
-My house is approximately 201 feet above sea level. -The town I live in at it's lowest point is approximately 175 feet above sea level. -NO worries of flooding around here.. -My house has gas, of which the gas lines are underground, so we're good on that front. -Same for the water distribution -I'm in the fire dept, so I have no worries about them not showing up, and besides, if something happens to my house, I can go live at the firehouse until I figure out a better plan. We have a huge backup generator as well as showers, bunks, etc. In reality, I'm really not worried about any weather phenomenon on Long Island other then a Tsunami... |
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We live within a mile if the LIE near the Nassau/Suffolk border You either live in the same town as I, or in withs a stones throw from me.. P/OB here... I used to live in Plainview..and when I read the fish223's post, I thought to myself...He must be in Plainview or very close.... |
| It really depends on where on Long Island and how far above sea level you are. I will always choose to bug-in unless there is no other choice. I don't live on Long Island, but I've got people in Glen Cove. Bugging out from Long Island by car is very, very, very problematic, even if you think you have advance warning. |
| Thank you for your input folks. I wanted to get an idea of what people think. Unfortunatley I live on the North Shore in manhasset, and a 2 day rain storm floods the area for me. I have taken a number of steps to better prepare with pumps and backups w/ batteries. I've been thru a few hurricanes over the years, but nothing like a cat 5 thank god. It's a toss up for me wether to stay or go. I can have the family packed and ready to go in 10min. or I can stick it out with a small replenishment of preps if needed. Again thanks for the input |
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Thank you for your input folks. I wanted to get an idea of what people think. Unfortunatley I live on the North Shore in manhasset, and a 2 day rain storm floods the area for me. I have taken a number of steps to better prepare with pumps and backups w/ batteries. I've been thru a few hurricanes over the years, but nothing like a cat 5 thank god. It's a toss up for me wether to stay or go. I can have the family packed and ready to go in 10min. or I can stick it out with a small replenishment of preps if needed. Again thanks for the input I'm near you....food for a week can be stretched to a month, clean water will be the issue if anything...shoot me a PM if it hits we can do local zombie patrol. |
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Thank you for your input folks. I wanted to get an idea of what people think. Unfortunatley I live on the North Shore in manhasset, and a 2 day rain storm floods the area for me. I have taken a number of steps to better prepare with pumps and backups w/ batteries. I've been thru a few hurricanes over the years, but nothing like a cat 5 thank god. It's a toss up for me wether to stay or go. I can have the family packed and ready to go in 10min. or I can stick it out with a small replenishment of preps if needed. Again thanks for the input FWIW, according to a presentation from FEMA that I went to a few weeks ago, Long Island is not at risk of ever being hit by a Cat. 5 storm. Water is too cold up here. Hurricanes aren't what concern me. An "incident" in Manhattan that shuts off most (or all) truck transportation to Long Island for an extended period is what I fear. |
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Thank you for your input folks. I wanted to get an idea of what people think. Unfortunatley I live on the North Shore in manhasset, and a 2 day rain storm floods the area for me. I have taken a number of steps to better prepare with pumps and backups w/ batteries. I've been thru a few hurricanes over the years, but nothing like a cat 5 thank god. It's a toss up for me wether to stay or go. I can have the family packed and ready to go in 10min. or I can stick it out with a small replenishment of preps if needed. Again thanks for the input I'm near you and am too close to the water to bug in. I think the key to getting out will be doing it early before everyone is trying to do it. If you left 24 hours before it was scheduled to hit, there'd be plenty of traffic but I think you could get out. This is probably the most likely SHTF on LI, and I've read it has insurers very nervous. Which worries me, because they have a great incentive to measure the liklihood of this kind of thing. |
| Buy a 23' boat and keep it on a trailer in the driveway under one of thoise portable sheds. Load it with all the essentials. Keep a 4wd to tow it. Practice dropping it in the water at all hours. Be prepared to abandon the vehicle and the house. Buy another house in CT. Inland. Keep another 4wd with a trailer parked at the dock in CT. Learn how to get there at any hour. IF SHTF, drop boat in, run across the Sound, pull the boat (loaded with anything you wanted to keep) and drive it to your CT country house. |
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Buy a 23' boat and keep it on a trailer in the driveway under one of thoise portable sheds. Load it with all the essentials. Keep a 4wd to tow it. Practice dropping it in the water at all hours. Be prepared to abandon the vehicle and the house. Buy another house in CT. Inland. Keep another 4wd with a trailer parked at the dock in CT. Learn how to get there at any hour. IF SHTF, drop boat in, run across the Sound, pull the boat (loaded with anything you wanted to keep) and drive it to your CT country house. Too much trouble. I'll just shoot some people and take their stuff instead. |
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Buy a 23' boat and keep it on a trailer in the driveway under one of thoise portable sheds. Load it with all the essentials. Keep a 4wd to tow it. Practice dropping it in the water at all hours. Be prepared to abandon the vehicle and the house. Buy another house in CT. Inland. Keep another 4wd with a trailer parked at the dock in CT. Learn how to get there at any hour. IF SHTF, drop boat in, run across the Sound, pull the boat (loaded with anything you wanted to keep) and drive it to your CT country house. Too much trouble. I'll just shoot some people and take their stuff instead. If the people have the stuff you really want, chances are they will be armed too, likely better than you. I don't know about you all, but I'm buying one of those old russian diesel submarines...I'll see you in Bermuda bitches... 
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Buy a 23' boat and keep it on a trailer in the driveway under one of thoise portable sheds. Load it with all the essentials. Keep a 4wd to tow it. Practice dropping it in the water at all hours. Be prepared to abandon the vehicle and the house. Buy another house in CT. Inland. Keep another 4wd with a trailer parked at the dock in CT. Learn how to get there at any hour. IF SHTF, drop boat in, run across the Sound, pull the boat (loaded with anything you wanted to keep) and drive it to your CT country house. Too much trouble. I'll just shoot some people and take their stuff instead. If the people have the stuff you really want, chances are they will be armed too, likely better than you. I don't know about you all, but I'm buying one of those old russian diesel submarines...I'll see you in Bermuda bitches... Oh, I VERY much doubt that. |
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We live within a mile if the LIE near the Nassau/Suffolk border You either live in the same town as I, or in withs a stones throw from me.. P/OB here... I used to live in Plainview..and when I read the fish223's post, I thought to myself...He must be in Plainview or very close.... Melville / Dix Hills. There are a bunch of us within a 3 mile radius of Route 110. Quoted:
Buy a 23' boat and keep it on a trailer in the driveway under one of thoise portable sheds. Load it with all the essentials. Keep a 4wd to tow it. Practice dropping it in the water at all hours. Be prepared to abandon the vehicle and the house. Buy another house in CT. Inland. Keep another 4wd with a trailer parked at the dock in CT. Learn how to get there at any hour. IF SHTF, drop boat in, run across the Sound, pull the boat (loaded with anything you wanted to keep) and drive it to your CT country house. Sure, if money and maintenance were no object. Not happening in my near future. Besides, a heliport in the backyard is much more practical, and a quicker way to bug-out anyway. 
My wife grew up in the area, and I have spent alot of time talking to my F-I-L about all the various scenarios, based on his historical perspective and experiences. Again, short of N/B/C, a bug-in is going to be the best option for us. My M-I-L is the prepper of all preppers, and they live a mile away. My S-I-L, like my wife, was well trained in accumulation and storage, and also lives within a mile. They are all Jewish and Italian, with depression-era immigrant Grandparents, so the net effect was to create a great survival mindset. Got very lucky with the extended family. That is for sure. |