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6/16/2010 3:42:57 PM EDT
MSAR E4 18.5 inch heavy barrel with a Millett DMS-1 on a PEPR mount.  



PEPR mount is going to get replaced as you wack the shit out of your thumb whenever you use the charging handle
6/16/2010 4:40:02 PM EDT
[#1]
How dose the AWB apply to a bullpup.. I only ask because the evil pistol grip is not under the action,
 22. "Assault weapon" means (a)  a  semiautomatic  rifle  that  has  an
 ability  to  accept  a  detachable  magazine and has at least two of the
 following characteristics:
   (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
   (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action  of
 the weapon;
 
  (iii) a bayonet mount;
   (iv)  a  flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a
 flash suppressor;
   (v) a grenade launcher;

The way it is worded, it would appear when it comes to bullpups the grip is not an exception..
6/16/2010 6:04:29 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
How dose the AWB apply to a bullpup.. I only ask because the evil pistol grip is not under the action,
 22. "Assault weapon" means (a)  a  semiautomatic  rifle  that  has  an
 ability  to  accept  a  detachable  magazine and has at least two of the
 following characteristics:
   (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
   (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action  of
 the weapon;
 
  (iii) a bayonet mount;
   (iv)  a  flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a
 flash suppressor;
   (v) a grenade launcher;

The way it is worded, it would appear when it comes to bullpups the grip is not an exception..


VERY good question. I never thought of that before.

They don't regulate forward mounted grips that are under the barrels/handguards of ARs, correct? Why would they regulate a forward grip on a Bullpup??

6/16/2010 6:59:51 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Quoted:
How dose the AWB apply to a bullpup.. I only ask because the evil pistol grip is not under the action,
 22. "Assault weapon" means (a)  a  semiautomatic  rifle  that  has  an
 ability  to  accept  a  detachable  magazine and has at least two of the
 following characteristics:
   (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
   (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action  of
 the weapon;
 
  (iii) a bayonet mount;
   (iv)  a  flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a
 flash suppressor;
   (v) a grenade launcher;

The way it is worded, it would appear when it comes to bullpups the grip is not an exception..


VERY good question. I never thought of that before.

They don't regulate forward mounted grips that are under the barrels/handguards of ARs, correct? Why would they regulate a forward grip on a Bullpup??



First off, I think we may be hijacking the ops threads, Nice rifle op, how's it shoot?... but as far as the legality's go, this is NY.. They probably have it covered one way or another..
6/16/2010 7:58:46 PM EDT
[#4]
That is considered a pistol grip, but since a muzzle brake is likely pinned, it is not considered an assault weapon. If it had an unpinned brake or flash suppresor, than it would be an assault weapon.
6/16/2010 8:04:10 PM EDT
[#5]
MSAR makes NY compliant model's I have one myself.
6/16/2010 8:13:59 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
That is considered a pistol grip, but since a muzzle brake is likely pinned, it is not considered an assault weapon. If it had an unpinned brake or flash suppresor, than it would be an assault weapon.


Sounds right...
6/17/2010 3:31:54 AM EDT
[#7]
The break is pinned and welded on.  I told Ratworx I need one in a ban configuration with a comp pinned and welded on, they kept the two pmags that normally come with the rifle and waved shipping fees in place of the mags.  QUICK service.  She seems to like 30 round GI mags and the trigger inst that bad once you get over the initial creep.  

I have tomorrow off and will be putting lead down range with that and the .450 Bushmaster that I have yet to shoot as well.
6/17/2010 7:10:50 AM EDT
[#8]
The more I look at that thing the more I want one..... All the accuracy of a rifle, only in a compact design, let us know how she shoots..