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5/11/2010 5:09:14 AM EDT
I won an auction, (no reserve)I contacted the seller to make payment arrangements and he tells me he ended the auction early, as he sold the items locally? Is this legit, or did he not get what he expected from the auction? Thoughts?
5/11/2010 5:22:51 AM EDT
[#1]
Sounds like he doesn't want to sell it for the bid price.  Keep an eye on the seller in case he relists it, not that Gunbroker is likely to do anything about it.
5/11/2010 5:26:10 AM EDT
[#2]
kinda what I thought, thanks
5/11/2010 5:31:03 AM EDT
[#3]
Did he actually end it early and did he mention that it was for sale locally?

5/11/2010 5:37:30 AM EDT
[#4]
Many Gunbroker sellers will say in their auctions that the item is for sale locally and they reserve the right to end the auction early if it sells locally. Apparently Gunbroker allows this. Did the seller in question state this in his auction?
5/11/2010 5:42:08 AM EDT
[#5]
he did end it early, no mention that it was for sale locally.
5/11/2010 6:23:33 AM EDT
[#6]
Complain to gunbroker- what do you have to lose?  If he didn't mention it it is pretty shady IMHO.
5/11/2010 6:45:09 AM EDT
[#7]
I told him that he left me no option but to leave negative feedback, he said that he made a mistake; meant to have reserve on the auction. It was a 7 day auction that he ended after 49 hours and 5 bids.
5/11/2010 6:53:50 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
I told him that he left me no option but to leave negative feedback, he said that he made a mistake; meant to have reserve on the auction. It was a 7 day auction that he ended after 49 hours and 5 bids.


If he ended it nearly 5 days early a complaint to Gunbroker will most likely go no where. If he had ended the auction with a couple hours left your complaint would be considered.

5/11/2010 7:52:17 AM EDT
[#9]
You didn't win the auction. You simply were the highest bidder at the time that he ended the auction. Since it was nowhere near the end of the auction I would just let it go. I wouldn't leave bad feedback.  I don't see that he did anything wrong.
5/11/2010 8:08:31 AM EDT
[#10]
from gunbrokers user agreement:

2.  Listing.  Placing an item for auction is an irrevocable offer to sell an item to the winning bidder. The winning bidder is the highest bidder on the item, or in the event of a tie, the bidder who placed the highest bid chronologically earliest. In the case of a reserve price auction a bid is only a winning bid if it meets or exceeds the reserve price on the item. In the case of a Dutch auction there may be more than one winning bid depending on the quantity of items available and the number of bids placed.

Listing an item constitutes entering a binding legal agreement to sell the item to the highest bidder as determined by the rules of the auction. Items listed on this auction site may not be concurrently offered for sale on any other online auction site. Once an item is listed and has received a winning bid, the item may not be withdrawn from sale. Please consider carefully whether you want to place an item for auction

no reserve, no "for sale locally", no right to end auction early. It appears to me that A) the auction wasn't going as he anticipated, B) he was able to sell it elsewhere without waiting for the auction to end.
5/11/2010 10:44:14 AM EDT
[#11]
Post the auction # so we can look at it and make our own educated opinions.
5/11/2010 11:48:41 AM EDT
[#12]
I realize "it's the point", but the gun's gone.  Move on, and cut the guy a break.  And always remember, the feedback you leave says something about you too...
5/11/2010 12:02:36 PM EDT
[#13]
The down side to Gunboker is that you have no back up from them. At the bottom of the page it says caveat emptor, buyer beware. I have been screwed before on Gunbroker and chalked it up as a life lesson.
5/11/2010 12:10:57 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
from gunbrokers user agreement:
...
no reserve, no "for sale locally", no right to end auction early. It appears to me that A) the auction wasn't going as he anticipated, B) he was able to sell it elsewhere without waiting for the auction to end.
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Ok so technically he was in the wrong. I've seen a lot of shady things done on auction sites. This really isn't one of them. You're not out anything. Find another gun.

5/11/2010 1:14:49 PM EDT
[#15]
Doesn't matter if he or you are wrong or right.  Gunbroker can't make him sell you the gun, so you're just wasting your efforts.
5/11/2010 1:49:31 PM EDT
[#16]

Alright, here's what actually happened. The guy got contacted outside of the auction by someone who told him "Hey, I'll give you $XXX if you end the auction now. That way you won't have to pay Gunbroker's fees." So he did. I've seen it happen a bunch of times.

Is it right? No. Is there much you can do about it? No. Can you leave him negative feedback? Since you didn't win the auction, the answer is again No.

He hosed you. You can't prove it. There's no guarantee you would have won anyway. Just let it go.


5/11/2010 6:11:53 PM EDT
[#17]
I have had a number of gunbroker sellers back out on me- one even told me since my 1 penny bid held on a penny auction he would rather give the item away than ship it to me for a penny even though it was a start at penny no reserve auction- said he oops in not having a reserve price blah blah